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Madden should not be 70$

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨alphacyberranger@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

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  • mojo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    then don’t buy it people keep buying it, so why wouldn’t they raise the price?

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    • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Typical moron gamer moment, though: Bitch about price, buy it anyway, leave a bad review at 500 hours played, and repeat next year.

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      • BilboBargains@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        They named this pathology The Maddening.

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    • twistedtxb@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Now that FIFA’s gone, EA needs another cash cow.

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      • lud@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Fifa isn’t gone, only the FIFA in-game branding is gone. It’s just called FC24 instead of FIFA 24.

        And most of the world that plays FIFA isn’t going to play an American football game. American football is completely different and not relatable to pretty much anyone except those from USA (or maybe Canada, dunno).

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  • dmm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s a free market. Just don’t buy it

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  • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The game isn’t for you.

    They continue to do very little updates and charge full price because people keep buying it.

    They sell like crazy. There was a chart that showed Madden selling more per year than most Nintendo games.

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  • Targy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No game should be 70$ if you ask me

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    • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Games should not follow inflation at all?

      N64 games were 50$ in the 90s, more limited releases (Ogre Battle 64 for example) were 60$.

      Games pricing has stagnated, that’s good for the consumers but bad for smaller developers…

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      • Selmafudd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Surely the difference in overheads involved in physical vs digital would mean profits are increasing at a higher rate then sale price

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      • Hunter2@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        1. The medium games came in were more expensive

        2. The gaming audience was much smaller

        3. Games were only sold in stores

        4. If you add all the season passes you’re paying the same or even more with further microtransactions

        5. Games in general now have a longer shelf life

        AAA games in my country have been 69,99€ since the PS3 launch and now they’re asking 79,99€. It’s true development costs have ballooned, but I just don’t think that’s a good price/time ratio and rarely do I buy games over 15€. I really don’t mind waiting a couple years.

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      • WereCat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If you’re going to count in inflation then I’m going to count in the poor quality of those games

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    • FoxBJK@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Tears of the Kingdom was $70, and I honestly feel like it was worth it because it’s quite an entertaining and enthralling experience.

      “Pro football video game v. 34” is probably not in the same caliber though.

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    • 13esq@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      New releases used to be £40 when I was a kid (twenty years ago), given inflation, £70 sounds not too bad.

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      • MrNesser@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        That $40 included plastic packaging and a disc both of which largely don’t exist anymore.

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      • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        40? I remember when they were 20. Hell, I remember when you could get slightly older titles for 10. I used to go to Egghead and buy slightly older games with my allowance.

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      • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        more importantly they sell way more units now. It takes virtually no more effort or cost for gaming companies to sell 20 million units vs 1 million.

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    • berg@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Depends on the playtime you get out of it. 140hrs+? Great value.

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      • Targy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I have devoted that amount of hours or even more to some games and still think the 40-50€ that costed me each one of them when I bought them is too much.

        Entertainment shouldn’t be that expensive. Period.

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    • Spacecraft@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I dunno. Baldurs Gate 3 has a truly unbelievable amount of content in it. $70 for it is almost unfair when you consider how far $70 gets you in almost any other hobby.

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      • Targy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Someone told me something similar about Tears of the Kingdom and my answer is the same: BG3 could be the greatest game ever made with content from here to eternity, but 70$ is still too much for a game. Specially considering who ends up benefitting the most from the sales.

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  • AndreyAsimow@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Sport games should be sold as game as service rather than yearly releases.

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    • CorrodedCranium@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I wonder if they’d have a hard time selling a service that doesn’t include the micro-transactions.

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      • AndreyAsimow@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Relying on only seasonal subscriptions is not enough. They have to sell something else és well to keep up.

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    • magic_lobster_party@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why? They’re probably making way more money this way anyways.

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  • Amilo159@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Let me share a secret with you: Madden (Year) is the same game as Madden (Year-1).

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    • alphacyberranger@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Wait, if I rename my Madden1.exe to Madden23.exe will I get the latest game?

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      • touringbot@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        … You’re gonna need to rename to madden25.exe

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    • redcalcium@lemmy.institute ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “SportGame (Year-1) is literally unplayable because my favorite player is no longer in Team X.”

      – Every sport sim players

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    • sucricdrawkcab@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      PS3 NCAA 14 blows next gen Madden out of the water. It’s not even close.

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      • cjsolx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        NFL 2K5 is the GOAT NFL game.

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    • Noctis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Typically yeah but this year is actually the first time PC is getting the next gen version ps5/xs have had since 21

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  • kemsat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    For like 20 years y’all have been buying the game, year after year, even if it’s not worth it.

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    • Ashtear@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      See also: Pokémon.

      I’ve always been bothered by the lack of competition (and anti-competitive behavior) in the football space.

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    • legion@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Football video games were such a big part of my childhood in the 80s and 90s, but football video games died the day NFL2K died.

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  • greavous@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’d say that’s its because there’s only really 1 country that’s going to buy it in large numbers but the reality is it’s the standard ea tax. Stop buying it every year or stop complaining.

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  • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Madden is worth whatever people are willing to pay for it.

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  • Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No yearly release should be $70.

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    • Ostrichgrif@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      At this his point they could start charging $100 a year for it and I wouldn’t even blame them.

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  • CorrodedCranium@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Just take your John Madden Sega Genesis ROM and use this tool to update the roster yourself. Who’d be able to tell the difference?

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    • sturmblast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      those of us that actually play the game

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  • Thedogspaw@midwest.social [bot] ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Madden is so dumb its literally the same game with one feature taken out and one feature reintroduced every year

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  • Devious_Thoughts@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What is the allure to a yearly new Madden game?

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    • Jyek@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Statistics of players being updated and new character models being added. Nothing that couldn’t be done in an update. Honestly most sports games should literally just be games as a service already.

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    • ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Updated stats and roster. Slight gameplay tweaks.

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  • gerryflap@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They know that people are going to pay for it. For exactly the same reason I haven’t bought a Formula 1 game in a few years. Every year it’s just not quite worth the 60-70 euro’s for me. I’m not even that mad about the 70 euro price tag if I get something nice for it in return, everything has gotten more expensive and games have been 60 euro since forever, but last year’s game with some small changes is not going to cut it for that price.

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  • yokonzo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    God look at those crusty ass grass textures, def not $70 material

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  • ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And yet for years sports fans have enjoyed themselves.

    Christ you fuckers are pushy.

    IT’S NOT FOR YOU. GET OVER IT.

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    • Izzent@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Elitist twat.

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      • ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Lolol YOU’RE (royal) the one constantly telling Madden fans how dumb they are. 🤷‍♂️

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  • Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If people buy it anyway at the full price, then the game publisher will correctly deduce that it indeed worth at least that much money for enough people (otherwise part ways with that much money to get it) to get that game as soon as it comes out.

    In Economics, perfect pricing (which is not yet possible but, damn, they’re really trying hard) from the point of view of a seller is when they get exactly as much money from each individual as that person is willing to pay for it, so the “ideal” world for them would be individually-tailored prices.

    As they can’t as of yet sell at different prices to each and every individual, they’ve gone as far as they can (regional pricing, different prices in different stores with different audiences and, maybe more importantly, time-from-publishing pricing) and then push prices up and up slowly whilst checking if in total the price increase has yielded more money or not (they have no issue with loosing customers due to higher prices if in total they still make more money at the price point than at a lower price point).

    IMHO, in the face of this, the easist and best reaction for somebody who wants the game but is does not think it’s worth $70 is to wait until the price falls down to how much they’re willing to pay for it. In fact if enough people do it the price will fall much faster as the publisher’s sales data analysis will signal to them that they’ve put the game at too high a price point and they’ll lower it trying to pick up the “money left on the table” from those who are interested but not at that price point before those people loose interest.

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    • TommySalami@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Jokes on them, my limit is wildly low compared to this. Most sports games are worth 20 bucks at this point, the main content is just reskinned gameplay with updated stats and an unnecessary twist on controls. Its DLC.

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You can get cheaper tickets to a real game.

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    • sturmblast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      lol have you seen ticket prices lately?

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    • son_named_bort@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Maybe nosebleeds at a bottom 5 NFL team, and even that is questionable. Football tickets are very expensive these days.

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    • nomnomdeplume@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Let’s say you score a 20$ ticket to a 3.5 hour game. That comes to $5.7 per hour of entertainment. Meanwhile, this game at $70 means you only need to put in 12.5 hours of playtime to get the equivalent, and after you can continue to play as much as you want unlike the in-person ticketed experience.

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  • Phegan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I loved sports games growing up, but they are absolutely terrible now. Over priced, full of cash grabs and needlessly complex. I just want to hit x to pass. I don’t want a fucking story line, I just want to play the game.

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  • legion@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Anytime I consider buying a Madden game, I watch a YouTube video of competitive play for the latest version. It always reveals how garbage the football sim part is. It’s all audibles and hot route spam and exploiting the useless AI in the same ways over and over again.

    I’ll never buy a Madden game while all that crap is in there. They should make it so that spamming audibles and hot routes causes players to blow assignments and false start all the time, but the average “competitive” Madden player would probably die from nonstop crying and pants-soiling if EA did anything like that.

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    • Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t know what audibles are, but I’ve become increasingly interested in action-strategy type games that find ways to directly punish players that have high Actions Per Minute, encouraging people to take fewer, more deliberate movements. Kinda like combo rhythm in Arkham, rather than mashing X to attack.

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    • Mdotaut801@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s actually a brilliant solution. Wanna spam audibles? Flag, false start. Or like you said, botched assignments, perhaps a lineman fucks a protection and you take a sack.

      Madden games are such trash, the last one I touched had Peyton Hillis on the cover. I’ve always assumed they’re still ass. I truly don’t know how people play sports games in general.

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  • Pottsunami@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The only sports game worth buying is nba 2k. The graphics are way better. The franchise mode is a million times better. There is less glitches. Stop buying madden. Tell the NFL you dont want EA anymore

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    • KickAssDuke@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      *Wii Sports has entered the chat

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      • Delusional@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I also enjoy FIFA. Certainly wouldn’t buy it full price but $5-$10 is worth it.

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  • vividspecter@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Are these still cut down releases based on last-gen console versions? That seems to be the historical trend with EA PC ports.

    But even if not, that price is still high.

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  • WorldieBoi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Same for FIFA. Or EAFC.

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  • WarmSoda@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I got Madden 22 for free. It was the first Madden I’ve played since the 360. It was fun for about half a season and then everything falls apart.

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  • theworstshepard@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Are you maddening?

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  • sucricdrawkcab@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I buy Madden on sale every 2 years. Last year was the first time I bought it new since Madden 25. Same game with betterish graphics

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  • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    people should be paid more for their work!

    things shouldn’t cost slightly more money!

    Gotta pick one chief.

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    • orangeboats@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Cut the CEOs’ pay and you’ll be able to get both

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      • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        EAs CEO makes $20MM. They have 13k employees. That’s an $1100 raise, give or take, if you take every penny from the CEO.

        So no, it won’t get you both, in any meaningful sense.

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    • Vordus@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      EA chose neither.

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      • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Do you have a source on that? Because EA pays in the top 20-25% for their market.

        www.comparably.com/companies/…/salaries

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  • vox@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    madden should not be

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  • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah I have a version of Madden from 2015 that works perfectly fine and seems to be more or less the same game, have been very happy with it. I refuse to pay $70 for a game that I know is riddled with microtransactions for really… nothing else changing

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    • DetectiveKakuna@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I am curious as to why you say the game riddled with microtransactions? The only micro-transactions I have ever seen is the card pack shit and that is incredibly easy to not pay for by just playing the other 95% of gameplay features they offer in the game that are completely free of microtransactions.

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  • Snapz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This post reminded me, time for a new sodapoptv video on YouTube.

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