Right after Windows 10 stopped being supported, rendering a lot of computers “obsolete”.
/yes I know about Linux
Crucial is shutting down — because Micron wants to sell its RAM and SSDs to AI companies instead
Submitted 1 month ago by tonytins@pawb.social to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theverge.com/news/837594/crucial-ram-ssd-micron-ai
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EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 month ago
viking@infosec.pub 1 month ago
But do you know about Windows 10 IoT LTSC?
Supported until 2032, and comes without copilot and any other garbage, fully supports local accounts, etc.
0x0@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
You can still download XP (in disguise, or the real deal if you have a corpo my.visualstudio.com account),
CannedYeet@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Ridiculous. I couldn’t name a more trusted brand of RAM.
Jarix@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You should probably start lieing about that and taint the brand as much as possible. Probably won’t do much but we should all just start saying everywhere that is a great thing because crucial sucked anyways.
butter_tart@piefed.ca 1 month ago
Kingston
58008@lemmy.world 1 month ago
AI, along with crypto, is getting to the point where even oil executives are like “dudes, the planet…”
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
They’d be full of shit because oil products are still by far the biggest pollutant afaik
HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Capitalism strikes again.
ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Fuck AI.
Guess when people ask me what ram do I need for X device I won’t be telling them to use crucial anymore to figure it out.
sfgifz@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I won’t be telling them to use crucial anymore
We yes, because eventually the supply would wind down.
funny_alias@europe.pub 1 month ago
My 5-year-old mainboard only supports DDR4. I’m just looking to increase my RAM and have two free slots available. But even the prices of DDR4 sticks have increased 100%-200% compared to a year ago.
They are more affordable than DDR5 sticks to be sure but still crazy.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 month ago
A decent chunk of that is due to DDR4 production shutting down. If you look to the past you can see that DDR3 prices rose a while after the introduction of DDR4 too.
Another thing driving up prices is tariffs and trade restrictions - usually when the main players like Micron, SK Hynix, or Samsung want to stop selling certain chips (say, DRAM at a certain binned frequency), they sell to Chinese manufacturers who are willing to sell slightly lower quality NAND for a lower profit margin.
But that’s not happening - the Chinese companies aren’t buying up the machines like they used to, because a tariff could easily wipe out their margins. It’s not worth the risk.
Add AI to that (not that many are using DDR4), and it makes a bad situation worse.
The AI aspect may get better soon, but the top two won’t. I don’t think you’ll be able to get new DDR4 for a good price at any point going ahead. Your best bet is to buy used if you see a reasonable deal.
funny_alias@europe.pub 1 month ago
Good points. Looking at eBay, the sellers of used DDR4 seem to have caught on to the price increases and are asking for the same unpleasant prices. I guess the best time to buy more RAM was a year ago and the second best time for it is now.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
My 6 year old build had ram in it (2x16) that was going end of life a few years ago so I bought the same pair again before it did. I’ll be good for a while, glad I made the move when I did.
gperson@programming.dev 1 month ago
First it was GPUs, and now it’s RAM.
This seriously sucks. Maybe I’ll have to stick with my mom’s laptop for a little while longer if prices are going to be impacted (which I having a feeling they probably will be unless they already are).
scala@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Shits wild the same ram I bought over a year ago is 400% more for half the amount of GB.
Buffy@libretechni.ca 1 month ago
Yeah I love current RAM prices, running a memtest right now – 75k errors and counting. I’m really excited to go buy some more, can’t wait.
firepenny@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Fuck…
danh2os@piefed.social 1 month ago
They told us us to buy computers in 2024 in case this happens. Here we are.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Since nobody can afford memory, this means mainboards and cases will get cheaper, right?
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Or… we could learn to code software so the average mouse driver doesn’t require a gig of free RAM, 10 gigs of swap space, and 15 CPU cores?
Just a thought.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
The mouse driver is already part of the OS in Window and Linux.
That shit is the Adverts Delivery & Private Data Capture system.
zebidiah@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
chrome was not able to load this comment…
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
I agree, but how does this help me building an affordable gaming rig?
BillyTheKid@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Xfce already exists
Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That’s OK, I wouldn’t dream of buying American RAM anyway.
tonytins@pawb.social 1 month ago
Personally, I’m willing to bite the bullet and get Samsung’s but I know not everyone can afford to do that.
saltesc@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m a follower and just go with Corsair Vengeance. Hasn’t ever let me down.
I think all my SSDs are Samsung. Nvme are Kingston and so I like to think they have thick Jamaican accents, mon. No issues with any of it and some of that storage is getting real old.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Are you fucking kidding me? Holy fucking hell.
horn_e4_beaver@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
Is free market capitalism turning into a communist planned shortage economy?
9point6@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Damn I’ve bought a lot of crucial stuff over the years
I assume they’re my current memory kit too since I pretty much always go with them
Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 month ago
Aww man :(
swiftywizard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
Oh man
themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
China might dominate the ram market if things go this way:
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
Might as well become a reseller lol
catch22@programming.dev 1 month ago
!Technological Implosion imminent, please stand clear!
foggianism@lemmy.world 1 month ago
For a second I thought Micron was an insult for Macron.
claymore@pawb.social 1 month ago
Great. What SSDs are worth buying then? Kioxia? Solidigm? Never going to buy WD, Samsung is on my shit list too but if there’s no other options left…
argarath@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Samsung is in my shitlist for their horrible shady business with their smartphones, but even tho I want to never buy anything Samsung again I still think their m.2 SSDs are really good, did something happen with that division that showed it’s also shitty? I want to know and hate even more on Samsung
Story why I hate Samsung (was too long to put in the middle): bought a s21 fe thinking I’m getting a snapdragon processor, they hid never mentioned anywhere in the page that this specific model has their piece of shit exynos processor that literally struggles to run anything, overheats if it isn’t on battery saving mode and goes through the battery like it’s on sale
claymore@pawb.social 1 month ago
Samsung SSDs seem fine, I actually use one of the cheap SATA ones as a boot drive, but they had a firmware bug a while ago that destroyed 990 and 980 pro NVMe SSDs. And I dislike Samsung in general so I’d rather not buy from them if I can avoid it.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
if they weren’t already burning the economy then all ai companies should burn themselves.
db2@lemmy.world 1 month ago
This should be in nottheonion
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Lawsuit.
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
You can try, but I don’t see how they’ve done anything that makes them liable to a lawsuit. I’m just adding them to my list of companies I won’t do business with when they inevitably come back to consumers after the bubble pops.
tal@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Why? I mean, they aren’t compelled to manufacture DIMMs.
Right now, there is a window in time where there are companies willing to pay tons of money for HBM memory, more than most people and companies are for DIMMs. It’d be crazy for memory manufacturers not to make HBM if they have the capacity to do so, if they’re doing way better by doing so.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 month ago
What’s there to sue for? Companies shut down product lines and brands all the time.
Jocker@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Bought two 32GB DDR5 RAM Sticks at the start of the year, and turns out that was the best investment of this year.
WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 1 month ago
Damn…
Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Cool, hope they go under with the rest if them.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Idk who or what Crucial is but sounds like they fucking suck.
tal@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Micron is one of the “Big Three” DRAM manufacturers.
Crucial is their “sell directly to consumers” brand.
netvaluator.com/…/top-10-ram-manufacturers-by-mar…
Micron Technology stands as the third giant, with a market share close to 20%, or about 23 billion USD in DRAM revenue. Unlike Samsung and SK Hynix, Micron is headquartered in the United States, making it a critical supplier for Western markets. Its product portfolio covers both DRAM and NAND, giving it broader exposure to the memory industry.
The company’s consumer-facing Crucial brand is well recognized among PC builders and gamers worldwide. Micron also plays a vital role in supplying DRAM for servers and AI, competing directly in the HBM space. Its strategy focuses on quality, diversification, and maintaining a stable supply chain for North America and Europe. As the only American giant, Micron is strategically important in the geopolitical landscape of semiconductors.
Tronn4@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Memory suppliers
Mikael_Langner@lemmy.world 1 month ago
[deleted]sfgifz@lemmy.world 1 month ago
We created a place for open discussion
It’s a WhatsApp chat.
NotBillMurray@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Piss off
PineRune@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I had to look it up. The RAM I bought 12 months ago for $99 is now $350. This is insane.
JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 month ago
My ddr4 now costs more than I bought it for originally. This after having dipped below $70 for 32GB. Now it’s over 300.
vpklotar@lemmy.world 1 month ago
My RAM (32GB 6000 CL30) i bought at a price drop for 79$ a year ago now costs 500$