Why would I buy this?

Submitted ⁨⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

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So I see this game. Let me sum up what I actually see:

Reviews are mixed: not a great start
Requires 3rd-party account: fuck that
60 euros base game: expensive, especially when the game has mixed reviews
175 euros DLC’s: are you fucking kidding me? On top of 60 euros for the base game, there’s another 175 fees for content?
purchasable CoD points: so pay to win?

And they don’t understand why people pirate, run away from AAA games and go for indie games instead.

This is just a random example. I’ve quit playing COD after Modern Warfare.

To end this positively: I recently started playing Necesse which is really nice, and I started playing an old time favorite again after a long time: World of Goo. Both worth my money :)

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MaliciousKebab@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨minute⁩ ago
You don’t. You play single player games like me and get to experience cool stories instead of dopamine lacking rage inducing PvP games.

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cron@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Take a look at the reviews, and find this insanity on the top:

need to be connected to online services even when you just want to play singleplayer campaign, and keep getting connection errors.

Thanks, I’m out.

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- melroy@kbin.melroy.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  So in theory.. you can not even play single-player campaign because of kernel level anti-cheat + internet connection. Even if Wine/Proton would allow you to start the game.
  
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  - cron@feddit.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    True. According to protondb, it is not possible to even start the game.
    
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yermaw@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
You need to get cod because everybody has cod. Its cod. You ever told a colleague/schoolfriend/acquaintance/anyone that you like video games? Their next question is “what prestige cod are you”. Cod is love. Cod is life. Cod is the game. You’re not a loser are you?

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- DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨39⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
  Just get Madden bro. Cause like… Is Madden
  
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- Noodle07@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
  I am, I play factorio and stellaris instead
  
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dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Bro the CoD ship sailed years ago. They just don’t innovate and release the same shit year after year. But something else. I’d recommend Factorio.

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- mellow@lemmy.wtf ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Quite the leap going from CoD to Factorio tho. 😅
  
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  - dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I had an intermediary of Minecraft and really gravitated towards the automation, I then saw Factorio on YouTube and was like damn this looks sick. I’m a software developer so it tracks that I like to solve problems.
    
    Recently downloaded Satisfactory though to give that a try.
    
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Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Can you put a few more red circles on the photo to help? Maybe a couple arrows too.

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tomi000@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Thats the neat part, just dont.

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Lazer365@feddit.nl ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
If you still play CoD nowadays then you are actively supporting the problem.

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- loutr@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  From time to time I’ll still look at their steam page during sales, because I’d like to play a blockbuster FPS where I can mindlessly mow down bad guys, with good story and production value.
  
  But the price point and reviews always turn me off… Do you have a good alternative to recommend?
  
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  - BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    If you want a CoD game, pretty much any CoD up through Black Ops 2 is still decent, but only if Activision actually let’s the game go “on sale”. Halo games have a fantastic story (up until 5 at least) and the Master Chief Collection is usually on sale for $10.
    
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Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I can’t say I like how /Games often circles around negative attention rather than positive.

Activision spent billions on marketing so people will buy these stupid Ultra Editions. Even negative attention gets people thinking about and talking about the game.

Instead, post about the cool indie games out that you think deserve far more attention than this battle pass slop. Let Activision come check up on us and cry because for all their efforts no one even cares to hate on their game.

Theres an asymmetric game out as a demo, called Carnival Hunt. It has a really unique aesthetic, and isn’t all that fun yet, in part because of the formula being refined and players getting better at it. But I like the idea: Rather than TCM’s idea of unlocking doors towards an exit, the survivors, “bunnies”, are trying to climb the floors of a large building, with each method of ascending a floor requiring various tools and making noise. Some ways up are harder to set up but easier to repeat, others only work if the killer is ignoring them.

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- Credibly_Human@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  Let Activision come check up on us and cry because for all their efforts no one even cares to hate on their game.
  
  The reality is that we are on a relatively small decentralized reddit clone.
  
  We truly are the most exceptional exceptions.
  
  Most people cant even begin to think of caring about what we care about.
  
  Activision certainly doesnt.
  
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  - Zahille7@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    This is the reality everyone on Lemmy, and even reddit, needs to face. We’re a minority of a minority of people. All the people who glaze and go nonstop about Linux? That’s not even half of Lemmy users, and you can find someone like that in just about every thread on Lemmy, regardless of context.
    
    We’re such a miniscule group of people we probably wouldn’t even register on studies about social behavior.
    
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melroy@kbin.melroy.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
You are missing the most important issue. It only runs on Windows!

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- TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  To be fair that icon doesn’t mean much of anything cuz you can just force compatibility in Linux and use proton, you just gotta manually do that in properties.
  
  This is probably windows only because of kernel level anticheat though so it probably still holds up.
  
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- sk1nnym1ke@piefed.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Nearly all games with a online pvp mode run on windows.
  
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  - melroy@kbin.melroy.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Not fully true. Yes a lot of games run on Windows.. But a lot of them also run on Linux, in some cases even Native, in other cases using Wine/Proton from Valve. See: https://www.protondb.com/
    
    A lot of online pvp games do work under Linux as well. But then again.. AAA games are the most problematic.. because they just stuck, and get ignored by the devs/publishers. I'm looking at you EA!
    
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Credibly_Human@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

And they don’t understand why people pirate, run away from AAA games and go for indie games instead.

They completely understand… the numbers saying that they’re making money hand over fist and the number of people who care is sadly minuscule.

These games have hit a critical mass where people will casually buy them because they’re friends are and so its a common ground game to play with buddies.

I don’t think we can ever rely on consumers pushing back on anti consumer practises because of the reality of people.

Not everyone can afford to care about every issue.

As a result, boycotts are very unlikely to work in the modern world. There is just too much all at once for any one person to care about all of them, so even if you, lets say, care about 1% (a really high estimate) of things that are wrong in the world, and are willing to act, if we extrapolated that out to the whole population, the only things that would move would need to have double digit percentages of peoples care overlapping before anything stuck.

Really, the answer is that you simply need a government that cares about its people/consumer rights.

The USA and Canada, both are very far away from having governments like that.

Europeans are a lot luckier, but yet still, there is plenty to go.

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- Blurntout@lemmy.ca ⁨33⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
  What I’m reading is use crowd funding with boycotted “would have been sales” funds to lobby government to regulate predatory game monetization 😅 but alas regulatory capture is a bitch and as long as number go up the world be damned so I guess I’ll go back to this ftp Chinese p2w warborne above ashes shenanigans that hits the PvP fix lol
  
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  - Credibly_Human@lemmy.world ⁨25⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    I think Europeans have a chance, and Canadians would have so many chances with so many things if we just got proportional representation, but that’ll happen when Pierre Poilievre stops being a racist alcoholic aka when pigs fly.
    
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Sabata11792@ani.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
If I have to consult a pricing chart, I’m not buying your game.

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mcforest@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Maybe because there are still people who are not tired of Call of Duty, liked the predecessor and are still looking forward for a sequel and play it with their friends?

Oh wait, this isn’t even the newest CoD? Probably they just forgot to update the prices. Probably forgot it even exists because there is a new one.

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- snooggums@piefed.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Didn't forget, they just want full price forever.
  
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  - mushroommunk@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    ~~Nintendo Intensifies~~
    
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- warm@kbin.earth ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  They dont want people buying the old games, even their 15 year old ones are still full price on purpose. They want you in the latest game each year, exposed to all the predatory extra-transactions, then they want you to do that again the next year and the next and the next...
  
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codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
This kind of thing is why I dont get excited for steam sales now. Oh, 50% off Recent AAA Game? Haha, yeah, half off the base price, but the entire game is DLC now and each of those is still full price, and there’s a dozen of them.

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- warm@kbin.earth ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  AAA is just cash grab, they haven't been good or innovative games for a long, long time now. They are very good at marketing to the masses though and they have the pricing tiers laid out perfectly to extract as much money from people as they can.
  
  They start off with their massive price tag like $70-80, plus the deluxe editions for $100-120 for any suckers who want a fucking extra skin. Then after a couple months when sales slow down, they put it on sale for like 20% off, then a couple months more, its like 40% off and so on. DLC has kind of fallen off, as they get people stuck in the battle pass and cosmetic buying loop instead (people are crazy).
  
  If a AAA game looks interesting to you at all, you are literally best just waiting a few months or more, it's a win-win, you either buy it it's actual value or you get the reviews that its a disgusting broken mess or was completely over-hyped (it's these last two 99% of the time).
  
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bizzle@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Modern Warfare was peak CoD

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- ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Which one? Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (2007), Modern Warfare 2 (2009), Modern Warfare 3 (2011), Modern Warfare (2019), Modern Warfare II (2022), or Modern Warfare III (2023)?
  
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  - bizzle@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    2007 but 2009 was good too
    
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ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
That’s why pirating AAA games is morally justified.

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- Mwa@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  yes
  
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warm@kbin.earth ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I wish Steam would put the 3rd-party requirements nice and obvious above the buy button. Along with a "uses AI content" and "always online requirement" banners too.

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SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Beats me

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dan1101@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I understand the single player campaigns are somewhat fun. I’ve had Black Ops on my Steam wishlist for years and it has never been on a decent sale.

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ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Thanks to modern video games being barely functional slop most of the time, I got into emulation. All these games work beautifully and I have a massive catalogue of high quality games, with creative contents that would not get made anymore today.

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SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I want a Call of Doody game where you're running around downtown of a major city looking for a public bathroom while prairie dogging a big old shit kind of like Far Cry 2's malaria mechanic.

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- Lawnman23@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  This is the way.
  
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- treesapx@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I’ll support anyone who references Far Cry 2’s malaria mechanic. A game ahead of its time…
  
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- Rentlar@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  With CoD BO3 extensive ability to be modded and workshop support, it could be theoretically possible.
  
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ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Play Necesse or Abiotic Factor. Both just left early access recently and are great real games for good prices and aren’t stuffed with the modern AAA bloat

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- gens@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Ravenfield
  
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- MirrorGiraffe@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Been oogling necesse. Would’ve loved couch co-op with the kids. On a scale of 1 to terraria, how much do you enjoy it?
  
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  - ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    It’s a bit more basebuildy than Terraria which I actually prefer as someone who enjoys rimworld. It’s pretty big on boss fights tho, but i usually leave that to my friends and focus on the base. It has a lot of polish and quality-of-life features. I’ve sunk about 140 hours into it so far but I’ll probably rack up a lot more than that. It isn’t very replayable and has a weak endgame loop, but it’s a very solid game.
    
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taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Marketing weirdly effective, for one. They pump a large portion of their budgets into hype and they make just enough back to keep going. It’s like the same people who watch an ad for a fast food place and go even though it’s never as advertised.

And most isn’t direct marketing. They very much pay influencers to buy this slop and worse. You pay a half million to a guy to make something look popular and it becomes popular. It’s very annoying.

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popcornpizza@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I’ve always wondered what all the CoD or Battlefield games have that’s different between the versions? 😅 Because to me it’s just a bunch of people running around shooting each other in the exact same way. I can’t, at a glance, tell you which game or version it is, if I stumble upon someone playing it.

Same with the football, basketball, and American football games. Which version is it? Have the rules of the sport changed between years? 😂 Who knows!

On the other hand, I love survival crafting games, and with the indies you rarely tell them apart because they all look the same. 😂 So I shouldn’t speak.

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Soapbox@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I wouldn’t.

But I know people who only play COD and Madden. So if that’s all you are ever going to play, I guess it might make sense to spend all your gaming money on it?

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s3rvant@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Just nabbed Necesse now that it’s out of early access; looking forward to playing with my kiddos :)

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Zolidus@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I got it on sale for 10 bucks last year. Great SP. Lots of fun.

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TORFdot0@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Buy the Call of Duty Warchest for $30 and play CoDUO with us. The best part about PC games is that you can still play the classics online!

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