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X is now offering me end-to-end encrypted chat — you probably shouldn't trust it yet | TechCrunch

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Submitted ⁨⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨ardi60@reddthat.com⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://techcrunch.com/2025/09/05/x-is-now-offering-me-end-to-end-encrypted-chat-you-probably-shouldnt-trust-it-yet/

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  • Netrunner@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Brain damaged people trust x again.

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  • SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This secret stays between you, me, and Elon.

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    • renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They keep your private key on their servers.

      Then it’s literally not even E2EE, lol

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    • Naich@lemmings.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      What is the “A” in “AITM”?

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      • BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        This is the first time I heard of AITM, thought it was a new name for MITM:

        blueshielditns.com/…/man-in-the-middle-vs-adversa…

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      • kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Adversary

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      • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s just MITM but with extra steps

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      • lemmyman@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Anal

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      • Triumph@fedia.io ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Aliens

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      • gressen@lemmy.zip ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Anyone

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      • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Elon.

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      • trashboat@midwest.social ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Apple

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      • ThePantser@sh.itjust.works ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Administrator

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    • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If you chat on Xitter you‘re chatting with mecha Hitler.

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    • Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They are stupid, but not that stupid.

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      • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence.

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  • artyom@piefed.social ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    offering me end-to-end encrypted chat

    No one - not even X - can access or read your messages

    This key is then stored on X’s servers

    So…they’re just blatantly lying?

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    • ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Right, the have the key, and the lock, but the key isn’t in the lock, so it’s utterly impossible for them to access it.

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      • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Typical corpo doublespeak

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    • InnerScientist@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s encrypted with a 4 digit pin so they’ll have to sped at least 316.8809e-10 years on brute-forcing it.

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      • lando55@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That’s why my PIN is 5 digits: 12345

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    • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No - did you even read the article? An x employee confirmed that they’re using the “special” servers to store the keys that mean that they cannot see them. The author then says that the employee confirming it doesn’t mean they do, because the author doesn’t want it to be true.

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      • Natanael@infosec.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        There are hardware for that called hardware security modules, but yeah I definitely wouldn’t trust Twitter’s implementation - especially because they probably just need the auth team to tell the HSM that the user logged in when they didn’t to get that key

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    • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The Muskrat lying? No, never!

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  • edgarzen@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Signal and encrypted email only.

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  • TwinTitans@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Why are people evening using this site anymore? It’s been severely compromised.

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    • TuxEnthusiast@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Cause it has an audience unlike mastodon or bluesky. All the other alternatives are dead.

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      • balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨39⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Your hero just joined bluesky so not that dead

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    • lechekaflan@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      What some call “normies” besides most celebrities.

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  • CitizenKong@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t trust anything coming out of Elon’s fascisthole. Deleted the app when he bought it and never looked back.

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  • renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    How about: “You probably should trust or use X at all… ever.”

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  • popekingjoe@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    …yet? How bout just not trusting it at all?

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    • Manjushri@piefed.social ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hah, beat me by 17 seconds!

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  • adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    YET?

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  • sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That “yet” is the narrative hook to trick us into feeling like it will soon be trustworthy, and that our assumed suspicions refer to a temporary state of untrustworthiness. Clever girls!

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    • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Feels like Bluesky’s federation promise.

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      • sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I think you can install your own bluseky instance and federated with others.

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    • Reverendender@sh.itjust.works ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Correct, foolish human! Now sign up.

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  • br0da@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s like a regular encrypted chat but with peepholes and racism.

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  • Manjushri@piefed.social ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yet? What kind of idiot would imagine that X would or could provide actual secure communication?

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  • Zeon@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s proprietary, how could you possibly trust it?

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    • lando55@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Do you think this is the face of a liar

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      • Etzello@midwest.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The face of this liar makes my face go on fire

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  • lechekaflan@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    LOL nope. I’d use anything else.

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  • Pondis@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I wouldnt trust X with a picture of my shoes

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  • 6nk06@sh.itjust.works ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Our good friend Elon cannot be trusted? I don’t believe you, this must be propaganda to discredit his good manners.

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    • ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Accusing gentle Elon of a misdeed?

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  • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Quick everyone, install this just so that if Pete Hegseth invites people to the next airstrikes chat group, your satirical JD Vance account will be next to the real JD Vance’s account and he’ll probably add you both and figure it out later.

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  • HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Or ever

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  • TomMasz@piefed.social ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Or ever.

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  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Never trust any social media sites “private” chat.

    Especially not one of the big ones run by weirdo fascists. You know Elmo is going to snoop on anyone relatively famous, or that just say something he doesn’t like.

    In all honesty, there’s zero reason to even have accounts on them

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    • pivot_root@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Even if the server had zero knowledge of your private keys (which is doubtful), I’m sure the client code won’t have any backdoors. It’s only the social media “platform” owned by the world’s most thin-skinned billionaire.

      if (message.contains("elon") || message.contains("musk")) {
          upload(chat.privateKey)
      }
      
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  • Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Don’t trust it at all.

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  • Telorand@reddthat.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Cool, and I bet it will be just as trustworthy as WhatsApp (i.e. not at all).

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  • obsidianfoxxy7870@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I do really like E2EE but why do I need it in everything?

    If I want to talk to someone I would rather them message me on Signal or something that I trust more.

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    • renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, way too many services have chats. I think it’s because every large platform wants to be an “everything app”. Messaging is a really easy to feature to implement to (theoretically) add value.

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