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X is now offering me end-to-end encrypted chat — you probably shouldn't trust it yet | TechCrunch

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨ardi60@reddthat.com⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://techcrunch.com/2025/09/05/x-is-now-offering-me-end-to-end-encrypted-chat-you-probably-shouldnt-trust-it-yet/

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  • SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This secret stays between you, me, and Elon.

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    • Naich@lemmings.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What is the “A” in “AITM”?

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      • BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This is the first time I heard of AITM, thought it was a new name for MITM:

        blueshielditns.com/…/man-in-the-middle-vs-adversa…

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      • kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Adversary

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      • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s just MITM but with extra steps

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      • lemmyman@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Anal

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      • gressen@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Anyone

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      • Triumph@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Aliens

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      • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Elon.

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      • trashboat@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Apple

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      • ThePantser@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Administrator

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      • RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Asshole

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      • pirat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Agencies

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    • renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They keep your private key on their servers.

      Then it’s literally not even E2EE, lol

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    • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you chat on Xitter you‘re chatting with mecha Hitler.

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    • answersplease77@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      is it different with signal, telegram, whatsapp?

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    • Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They are stupid, but not that stupid.

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      • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence.

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  • artyom@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    offering me end-to-end encrypted chat

    No one - not even X - can access or read your messages

    This key is then stored on X’s servers

    So…they’re just blatantly lying?

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    • ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Right, the have the key, and the lock, but the key isn’t in the lock, so it’s utterly impossible for them to access it.

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      • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Typical corpo doublespeak

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    • InnerScientist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s encrypted with a 4 digit pin so they’ll have to sped at least 316.8809e-10 years on brute-forcing it.

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      • lando55@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s why my PIN is 5 digits: 12345

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    • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No - did you even read the article? An x employee confirmed that they’re using the “special” servers to store the keys that mean that they cannot see them. The author then says that the employee confirming it doesn’t mean they do, because the author doesn’t want it to be true.

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      • Natanael@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There are hardware for that called hardware security modules, but yeah I definitely wouldn’t trust Twitter’s implementation - especially because they probably just need the auth team to tell the HSM that the user logged in when they didn’t to get that key

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    • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The Muskrat lying? No, never!

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  • popekingjoe@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    …yet? How bout just not trusting it at all?

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    • Manjushri@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hah, beat me by 17 seconds!

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  • sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That “yet” is the narrative hook to trick us into feeling like it will soon be trustworthy, and that our assumed suspicions refer to a temporary state of untrustworthiness. Clever girls!

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    • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Feels like Bluesky’s federation promise.

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      • sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think you can install your own bluseky instance and federated with others.

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    • Reverendender@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Correct, foolish human! Now sign up.

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  • renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How about: “You probably should trust or use X at all… ever.”

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  • DarkFuture@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hey y’all. Reminder not to trust a platform owned and operated by a Nazi manchild.

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  • Netrunner@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Brain damaged people trust x again.

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  • BD89@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Shouldn’t trust it yet.

    Or ever.

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  • adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    YET?

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  • Manjushri@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yet? What kind of idiot would imagine that X would or could provide actual secure communication?

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  • Zeon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s proprietary, how could you possibly trust it?

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    • lando55@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Do you think this is the face of a liar

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      • Etzello@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The face of this liar makes my face go on fire

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  • Typhoon@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    XChat, has some red flags.

    With a white circle and a swastika inside?

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  • notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you trust ANYTHING Musk has for you well then I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

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  • 6nk06@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Our good friend Elon cannot be trusted? I don’t believe you, this must be propaganda to discredit his good manners.

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    • ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Accusing gentle Elon of a misdeed?

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  • TwinTitans@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why are people evening using this site anymore? It’s been severely compromised.

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    • TuxEnthusiast@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Cause it has an audience unlike mastodon or bluesky. All the other alternatives are dead.

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      • balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Your hero just joined bluesky so not that dead

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      • Mwa@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        bluesky has a bigger audience then mastodon tho,but most people i see there still use twitter.

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    • lechekaflan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What some call “normies” besides most celebrities.

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    • Mwa@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      most likely vendor lockin and i hate it its common on social media.

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  • mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “xchat” sounds like one of those porn chat rooms

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  • HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    probably??? try definitely and ever

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  • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Quick everyone, install this just so that if Pete Hegseth invites people to the next airstrikes chat group, your satirical JD Vance account will be next to the real JD Vance’s account and he’ll probably add you both and figure it out later.

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  • Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yet? More like never.

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  • CitizenKong@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t trust anything coming out of Elon’s fascisthole. Deleted the app when he bought it and never looked back.

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    • DarkFuture@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I refuse to even click on links. If a friend sends me an X link to something funny/interesting I tell them “I don’t click on Nazi links” and ask them to find me another source.

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  • Pondis@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I wouldnt trust X with a picture of my shoes

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  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Never trust any social media sites “private” chat.

    Especially not one of the big ones run by weirdo fascists. You know Elmo is going to snoop on anyone relatively famous, or that just say something he doesn’t like.

    In all honesty, there’s zero reason to even have accounts on them

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    • pivot_root@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Even if the server had zero knowledge of your private keys (which is doubtful), I’m sure the client code won’t have any backdoors. It’s only the social media “platform” owned by the world’s most thin-skinned billionaire.

      if (message.contains("elon") || message.contains("musk")) {
          upload(chat.privateKey)
      }
      
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  • TomMasz@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Or ever.

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  • HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Or ever

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  • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “The guy who helped install Donald Trump, did a Nazi Salute at Trump’s victory parade on live TV, supports authoritarians, and who has declared war on transgender people to the point you’re not allowed to say “Cis” or “Cisgender” on his platform, has created an end to end encrypted chat.”

    All of this has the same vibes as the time Brigham Young University amended their code of conduct to allow people to come out as queer, let some students come out, and then changed the CoC back and expelled the students.

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  • edgarzen@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Signal and encrypted email only.

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    • DarkFuture@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Friends and I swapped our group chat to Signal the day Trump was inaugurated…the first time.

      If things keep going the way they are, no one should be communicating on anything but encrypted messaging apps.

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  • br0da@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s like a regular encrypted chat but with peepholes and racism.

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  • thatradomguy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    shouldn’t trust it yet shouldn’t trust it ever

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  • Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Don’t trust it at all.

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  • Telorand@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Cool, and I bet it will be just as trustworthy as WhatsApp (i.e. not at all).

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