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Mom they're fighting again

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • fullsquare@awful.systems ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    One of our bioinformatics has a sign at his desk that says “taxonomy is a social construct”.

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    • ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Conservatives hate this one trick!

      (The trick: literally everything in all aspects of reality, from the larges to smallest scales to every branch of life and consciousness is a motherfucking SPECTRUM. No hard lines. Nothing is solid. Not even the matter you’re standing or sitting on.)

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      • runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        “Yah but nuance is so hard! It’s so much easier to just hate everything I don’t understand”

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    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “taxonomy is a social construct”

      i mean for bacteria it actually is because bacteria can exchange genes across “species” so it’s not really a species… at least not in the sense of eukaryotes (where species are defined such that different species cannot exchange genes with each other)

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      • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Even for anything else, it actually is. Taxonomy is our construct that we came up with as a society to classify life. We cannot ever be “right” about it, it can just be more or less useful for us to understand life.

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    • AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A paper I quite enjoy is “Queer Theory for Lichens” which argued that queer theory is genuinely a useful framework for studying lichens; Lichens resist categorisation in a manner that feels like they’re actively mocking our taxonomic efforts.

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  • JoMiran@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I wonder how many people think that this;

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    is what a coconut actually looks like.

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    • Famko@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That coconut is clearly not on a palm tree, mate. /s

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    • Ephera@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      To be honest, I’ve noticed that with lots of foods. I know what the thing looks like in stores, but I have no idea what it’s like in nature.

      Cashews were another recent one, where I never would have guessed what they look like:

      Yellow cashew apple hanging on a tree. It looks almost like a bell pepper. There’s a green bit at the end, which contains the cashew nut.

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      • I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If that’s not a coconut, what the fuck have I been eating?

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      • ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Go get those weird looking white ones from an Asian grocery store, they look like styrofoam cylinders with carved pointed tops. Use a butcher’s knife to chop the point off. Insert straw and long spoon to carve the natural jell-o out with. Thank me later.

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    • mrsemi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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      • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Processed by extracting the liquid from the pulp of the coconut…

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      • JoMiran@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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      • Rothe@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, I know it is a joke and all, but coconuts doesn’t have hairs or contain milk, so that particular example doesn’t undermine “morphology-based phylogeny” at all.

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    • marcos@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      On related news, the salmon fish is not salmon color… And beef comes in larger packages on nature.

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      • grue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        the salmon fish is not salmon color…

        Why, sure it is! 😬

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      • stray@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Maybe we just disagree on what color “salmon” is, but the meat is what I would call that color. They’re like flamingos in that they take on pigment from their diet. For this reason, farmed salmon will not be “salmon” color unless their diet has been supplemented with the pigment.

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      that looks underripe to me
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      (from researchgate), Maturity stages of coconut: a) young; b) early ripening; c) ripe

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      • ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        From experience: all stages of a coconut are distinct, edible and used for different dishes, treats, condiments and ingredients.

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      • JoMiran@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Underripe is when it’s nice and full of water. Best when thirsty. Dry and ripe, best when hungry.

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    • TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Also not a nut.

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      • Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s the coco fruit

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    • ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I got to travel Southeast Asia for a time, it’s atrocious how much we’re missing out on in the USA.

      Even the really fresh coconuts here just don’t compare to the ones you get fresh off a tree. It’s unreal.

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      • JoMiran@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I lived in the US Virgin Islands as a kid. Our back yard had a seemingly endless supply of mangoes, bananas, avocado, lime, oranges (the real stuff, not the engineered shit we eat in the mainland), grapefruit, bread fruit, acerola, plantains, and pigeon peas. It wasn’t even that big a yard. Shit just grows.

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      • icelimit@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Have you tried a papaya growing off the roadside?

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      • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They exist in FL and I’ve climbed trees to get em. I like em when they’re yellow. Delicious coconut water and basically a coconut “jelly” lining. I also lived in the Caribbean my early life (2-7) so had a lot down there too, plus fresh sugarcane, guava, mangoes, and a thing we called a plum but was a small tree fruit that I also loved yellow ripeness. After a quick Google evidently called a June Plum or a hog plum. Used to eat em straight from the tree.

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    • thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Coconuts are tropical! This is temperate zone!

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      • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        How is this the temperate zone?? You know how the internet works?

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  • Nikls94@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    BEHOLD! THE MAMMAL! IT GIVES MILK AND HAS HAIR!

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    (And has venomous claws, lays eggs, has electroreceptors, glows under UV, has 10 sex chromosomes, genetically it’s a mix of reptiles and mammals…)

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    • BilSabab@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      sounds like average republican

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      • buttnugget@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Please do not insult the platypus like that!

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    • TheThrillOfTime@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Proof that God is fucking with us

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      • Nikls94@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I tell you it’s just an Echidna that made love to a Lizard and that’s how we got the Platypus.

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  • Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ok, but chickens produce milk too.

    wiki/Crop_milk

    Also dis:
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    • credo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Some spiders also produce milk.

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      • Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        So they are coconuts.

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  • lath@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hmm… I am a quack, therefore I duck?

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  • leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Actually, it’s about the teeth.

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    • Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes, wiki/Vagina_dentata.

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  • artifex@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Big Diogenes energy

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    • TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m a little sad that everyone’s focused on the coconut and missing the reference to the naked man who lives in a barell trolling the father of western philosophy.

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  • AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If it doesn’t have a tail, it’s not a monkey, even if it has a monkey kind of shape.

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    • Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Apes are a kind of monkey

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      • AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Not if they don’t have a tail.

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  • icelimit@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think a rabbit would be more accurate. Seeing as how a chicken has a beak. Also something cloaca

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    • rapchee@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      in ancient greece, they asked a philosopher, “what is a man?”. he said “a featherless, bipedal creature”. and then diogenes entered the scene

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      • hayvan@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That philosopher was Plato.

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  • Friendlybirdseggs@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Horror time youtu.be/F2E3qA4Vx_A

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