Samsung brings ads to US fridges

Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Pro@programming.dev⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

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Source: Reddit post— Private front-end.

Samsung Statement to Android Authority:

Samsung is committed to innovation and enhancing every day value for our home appliance customers. As part of our ongoing efforts to strengthen that value, we are conducting a pilot program to offer promotions and curated advertisements on certain Samsung Family Hub refrigerator models in the U.S. market.

As a part of this pilot program, Family Hub refrigerators in the U.S. will receive an over-the-network (OTN) software update with Terms of Service (T&C) and Privacy Notice (PN). Advertising will appear on certain Family Hub refrigerator Cover Screens. The Cover Screen appears when a Family Hub screen is idle. Ad design format may change depending on Family Hub personalization options for the Cover Screen, and advertising will not appear when Cover Screen displays Art Mode or picture albums.

Advertisements can be dismissed on the Cover Screens where ads are shown, meaning that specific ads will not appear again during the campaign period.

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PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Tfw u set up Pihole so ur fridge stops spamming you with ads.

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- wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I wonder how much longer that will work. DNS over HTTPS is now a thing and totally defeats the mechanism of a pihole.
  
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  - PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    VPN running on a WRT router? I know very little about this stuff I just know the buzzwords for street cred.
    
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  - MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Maybe block the DoH endpoint and in theory the device might fall back to normal DNS, dunno if that would work.
    
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  - Godnroc@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’m speculating, but it wouldn’t change a thing. You would still need to request domain addresses from a server somewhere, but traffic between your device and server would be encrypted in transit. The DNS server would also be verifiable to prevent imitators.
    
    So, the request would go to the PiHole and if it was not being filtered the PiHole would make the request of whatever upstream server is configured same as before.
    
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- jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Used to be I would spam my pie hole with junk from the fridge.
  
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- napkin2020@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Or just block internet access completely.
  
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  - RotaryKeyboard@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    This is the way. Although, when I did this to my Samsung television, it eventually began to display dialog boxes complaining that it was having trouble accessing the Internet. So I had to completely delete all network settings in the TV and give up the ability to control it through Home assistant. Annoying.
    
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  - PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    How can I watch Roblox let’s plays in my kitchen then hmmmm
    
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floo@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
When I was at Home Depot, I absolutely refused to sell Samsung appliances. They’re garbage. They’re expensive garbage, to be more precise.

The average failure rate for a Samsung refrigerator is that around three years. The condensers are garbage. Washer in the dryer? Average around five years before they break. I know, because I keep people coming back in to buy replacement appliances for their Samsung garbage.

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- wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Whenever appliances get brought up I always warn people to stay away from Samsung.
  
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  - floo@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Stay the fuck away from Samsung appliances. They’re very pretty, very expensive, and a pile of shit.
    
    Do you want something like this sort of thing Samsung makes? Get an LG. They’re excellent. The refrigerators used to have a bunch of problems, but they fixed all that. And they make great laundry appliances, too.
    
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  - brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Stay away from Samsung. Period.
    
    They’ve been on my boycott list for a long time.
    
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  - floo@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Aww— leaky Nazi cunt has a cry cry
    
    Kill yourself
    
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- SeeFerns@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Meanwhile, my parents have some old random branded washer and dryer from the 90s that still works today. A few years ago they replaced a part, something to do with draining. Cost them all of 40 bucks and a couple hours.
  
  They truly, and intentionally, don’t make em like they used to.
  
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  - onslaught545@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    That’s just survivorship bias. You can absolutely still get reliable appliances that are cheap to repair. I’ve had to replace a few parts on my Maytag dryer (because my wife abuses it), and I only paid like $30 for a coil assembly and replacement sensors. My washer is still going strong after 10 years.
    
    They’re often expensive, but so were reliable appliances in the good ol days. The main problem is that people want relatively cheap stuff, and that cheap stuff is made with cheap parts that don’t last as long.
    
    Appliances used to be major purchases, and the modern consumer wants a cheap new appliance now instead of saving up for months.
    
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  - Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Planned obsolescence is very real and one of the reasons we can’t have nice things.
    
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  - protist@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I have my great aunt’s Sunbeam waffle iron from the 50s and it still works great. Appliances used to be made to be repairable, and there were appliance repair shops all over the place
    
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  - floo@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Aww— leaky Nazi cunt has a cry cry
    
    Kill yourself
    
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- NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I am not going to say people should buy a Samsung appliance especially with this nonsense.
  
  But you’re falling for, and propagating, a pretty common fallacy. it isn’t that Samsung appliances are significantly worse (Consumer Reports puts them in the bottom half of the ranking but they are very much “fine”). It is that people buy them a lot.
  
  You see this with all kinds of brands. “Never buy Shark. Everyone who buys a Shark comes back and return it or buy a new vacuum in a few years”. It isn’t that Sharks are failing more than others (they are actually #1 or #2 according to CR, depending on the metrics). It is that they are what sell the most.
  
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  - captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    The most crashed make and model of airplane in history is the Cessna 172.
    
    The most popular make and model of airplane in history is the Cessna 172, in production since the 1950’s and some guy in Kansas is slapping one together as I speak.
    
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  - ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It also has to do with design/repairability. Samsung seems to go out of its way to design their products to be cost-prohibitive to repair and difficult/impossible to disassemble without damaging them. Lots of glue and brittle one-time-use clips. Lots of breakable switches and dials mounted on a custom mainboard.
    
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  - floo@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I am communicating my experience. Nothing more.
    
    I haven’t seen fans of Apple act this irrationally…
    
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- Badabinski@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I made the mistake of buying a Samsung washer/dryer set in 2017. The washer actually still works and the seal has held up well, but the dryer drum jumped its tracks within the first year, and both have been plagued with gremlins.
  
  Fuck Samsung appliances and honestly most things Samsung sells.
  
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  - floo@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Aww— leaky Nazi cunt has a cry cry
    
    Kill yourself
    
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  - floo@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Hey, if you managed to keep that front gasket, clean with all of its weird folds, that is an accomplishment in end of itself
    
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- Septimaeus@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  The condensers are garbage
  
  Guessing you meant compressors. If their condenser tubing is faulty, it’s a potential fire hazard.
  
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  - floo@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Aww— leaky Nazi cunt has a cry cry
    
    Kill yourself
    
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- allidoislietomyself@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I know this is anecdotal but I bought a Samsung washer and dryer in 2013 and the dryer lasted 9yrs and the washer lasted 10. I did have to replace the heating element in the dryer around the 7yr mark but other than that they both were fine.
  
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  - floo@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Congratulations. You didn’t get fucked. Like, I’m glad to hear it.
    
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  - floo@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Aww— leaky Nazi cunt has a cry cry
    
    Kill yourself
    
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- roundup5381@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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  - floo@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Aww— leaky Nazi cunt has a cry cry
    
    Kill yourself
    
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captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Anyone who fell into the trap of buying a fridge with a screen in it kind of deserves this.

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- kevincox@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I hear what you are saying. But our society is pretty fucked up if you “deserve” something bad because you bought a product without imaging how the manufacturer can make it worse in the future.
  
  The owners should be able to return the product if something like this happens, no matter how long ago they bought it.
  
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  - skrlet13@feddit.cl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yes, some people think that naiveté is worse than malice or cruelty for sone reason…
    
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  - lemming741@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Help! My spy machine is spying on me!
    
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  - cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    without imaging how the manufacturer can make it worse in the future.
    
    We reached the point where companies do shitty things with all their digital services years ago. As long as it’s not open source, you’ll get shit “features”. And even if it is open source, it can be reverted on a whim (hello bambulab).
    
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- SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Yeah but imagine how cool stuff could be if companies didn’t 100% of the time ruin their inventions
  
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  - Perspectivist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I don’t disagree but what’s also true is that some products are already as good as they can get and no longer need innovation. I know this is a bold claim but I’d argue that my dumb fridge without screen or internet connection keeps my food just as cool as the latest smart fridge.
    
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  - starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I literally can’t imagine a box that makes things cold being made cooler by having a screen on it
    
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WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
This would already be illegal if we didn’t live in corporate dictatorships.

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- SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Best I can offer in the US is a spiraling rapid descent into fascism.
  
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  - WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    “All of the alternatives are corporate dictatorship”
    
    Guess I’ll die
    
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_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
call me old-fashioned, but you don't need a fridge with a fucking screen in it.

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- anon5621@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  More than this we don’t need smart TVs I wanna dump high quality image tv
  
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  - onslaught545@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    You can sometimes disable a lot of the smart TV bullshit if you put it in gaming mode. For some models it disables a lot of the smart features to improve performance.
    
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tabular@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
“Innovation” used to mean better prices and/or better products. Adding adverts to a product you already own isn’t innovation.

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- tiramichu@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It is innovation.
  
  Just for the company, not for you.
  
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xvertigox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Why the fuck would you buy a smart fridge.

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- prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  When the idea of them first came in to play the thought were items put in would have rfid tags or another identifier and your fridge could help you keep inventory and track when things might be going bad, suggest recipes and whatnot.
  
  We shoulda known it’d be ads tho
  
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  - ThunderQueen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Even so, most expiration dates are a scam. Why would smart expiration dates be any bettet
    
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- interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It should display what is inside the fridge, without the energy loss of a window.
  It should have a bar code scanner and a complete food inventory system.
  It should be the “kitchen’s tablet” able to show recipes, watch cooking instruction videos, have a high quality curated knowledge compedium in a convenient and easy to access way.
  It should be able to stream outside cameras and answer door bells.
  It should be able to take video calls from Mom on XMPP.
  It should have high precision control and diagnostic systems.
  It should run ENTIRELY on open source software, not damn blob drivers, the display panel should connect internally with an HDMI cable.
  Run Proxmox and all my menagerie of LXC containers, don’t cheap out LG!! I want 64 GB RAM and 2tb ssd and a slot to add an HDD.
  It should auto-doomscroll for me while I peel potatoes.
  It should be able to run a smart voice assistance running Mistral 8x70B medium, locally and OFFLINE but networked and answer my agentic commands with a posh british accent.
  
  ok, good enough, send it
  
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  - jnod4@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I would buy and work and invest for whatever company you create.
    
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  - cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    You got a bit trigger happy for the last few points, but seriously, why isn’t the first 3 standards now. It can’t be that expensive to put that in a fridge, and with an open platform manufacturer could even get away by providing the barest software offering and let us do the job for them.
    
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- pezhore@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I just bought a fridge after my 15 year old one shit out. Let me tell you, trying to find a decently sized, dumb fridge with an ice and water dispenser is like finding the holy grail.
  
  Samsung has evidently partnered with some timelords to get over 30 cu ft of fridge space in a 70"tall frame - including their door sized tablet.
  
  Bosch has the next biggest but locks stuff behind an smart app. Hell, even LG has smart features to help you with your ice maker that will probably either be DOA or will break in a year.
  
  I finally found a Whirlpool that isn’t smart and has a decent sized fridge, but it was a struggle.
  
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- glitch1985@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  How else are you going to look at Facebook while you drink milk out of the carton if you forgot your phone in the living room?
  
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mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The easiest thing in the world is not to connect your fridge to the internet.

Also don’t buy Samsung refrigerators they are truly truly horrific.

I’m an appliance repairman.

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- phx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  In that case the easiest thing is not to buy a Samsung or any other “smart” fridge
  
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PattyMcB@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It was bad enough getting ads at the gas pump

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- lemming741@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
If you have gone out of your way and intentionally purchased a fridge with an internet connection and to screen frankly you deserve this. What did you expect? Screens have advertisements on them, why else would they put a screen on there.

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- BanMe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  There was a time when WiFi was actually useful in smart appliances, I have an LG washer/dryer about 7-8 years old, no touchscreens, but by WiFi you can get cycle done alerts, time checks, even remote start it. My matching fridge gives me energy conservation information, and allows me to choose a lower duty winter cycle
  
  I like these features. IDK why the fuck I would want a fridge with a touchscreen. All the smart appliances I’ve seen in the last 5 years are just there to serve you ads and steal your data.
  
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peoplebeproblems@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Don’t connect your devices to the Internet if they worked before without the Internet.

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- Chip_Rat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  And pay attention if you are buying one that you don’t need to connect it! Let the company know you’ll buy a “dumb” fridge to avoid their bullshit.
  
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- cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’m now at the point where I actively seek out variants of devices that don’t have wifi capabilities. Did that for a ceiling fan and an AC unit. They were a bit cheaper, too, so win-win.
  
  I wonder how long it will take for the “dumb” versions to become more expensive.
  
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- WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  but then how will I watch tiktoks on it!
  
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lmuel@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I hate the enshittification going on everywhere but I’d say the whole smart fridge thing was pretty shitty to begin with…

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cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I see a bright future for “low tech” tech companies soon.

“Here’s our new fridge.

- What does it does?

- It cools your food.

- And?

- That’s it.”

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- Beebabe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  The low-tech appliances in my cheap apartment work pretty great. Just modern enough not to waste a ton of water, but still have knobs and rattle the floors.
  
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- Burninator05@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Wonderful! I’ll take two.
  
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- Sheldan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Similar to the only white packaging and black text marketing from the xkcd xkcd.com/993/
  
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surph_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Given how many times Samsung’s been caught spying on customer mics, and throwing ads into everything with an internet connection, I don’t understand why anyone is still putting wifi credentials into a Samsung device.

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- TomAwsm@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I don’t understand why people even buy their products. Shouldn’t trust them farther than you can throw your fridge.
  
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handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Next model will come with a latch that won’t unlock the fridge door until you’ve watched a 30 second ad or are subscribed to SnackPass+ for 29.99$ a month.

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- Smaagi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Drink verification can to continue.
  
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UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
👏 You 👏 Don’t 👏 Need 👏 A 👏 TV 👏 On 👏 Your 👏 Fridge 👏

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- umbraroze@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  In the 1980s, home computers were sold like this:
  
  “Look at these awesome games, kids! And as for your parents, uh… well, you could use the computers to… uh… I dunno… keep track of the contents of the fridge? Yeah, let’s go with that.”
  
  Nobody ever did that. Not then, not now.
  
  Don’t buy a smart fridge, it’s a scam
  
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expatriado@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
when you buy an over-engineered appliance, if i feel like spending extra $$$ for a fridge, i’d rather go for quality steel panels and compressor, not an screen with wifi

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stoly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I think that people who would buy a fridge like that deserve to watch ads.

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Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
if people are buying 1800$ fridges, its on them if they get ads from samsung.

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starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It’s a fucking box that makes things cold. Humanity is cooked if we can’t bring ourselves to look away from a screen for all the time it takes to get a slice of cheese out of the fridge

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W3dd1e@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Just duct tape an iPad to the refrigerator door. It’s cheaper and it works better.

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Octavio@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I need my fridge to maintain a cold temperature on the inside. That’s it. That’s 100% of what I need from a fridge. The last one I bought was $300 and there’s no place to put an ad. I have no idea why y’all were hooking your appliances up to the internet in the first place, but I’m sorry you’re having a bad time.

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BallShapedMan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
My parents bought a fancy Samsung fridge with a screen 5 years ago. We bought LG. In the first year they had theirs serviced 6 times before replacing it with the same LG fridge we have. Earlier this year right before the extended warranty ran out the compressor on my fridge died. They’ve not had a single problem with theirs yet.

My brother bought a Samsung TV that was supposed to be better than my LG OLED. In the first year the anti glare coating wore off enough that there are bright spots you can’t not see. My LG TV is fine.

Typed on my Samsung phone.

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NoodlePoint@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’d still take a dumb fridge and magnets at any time of the day.

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qevlarr@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Ads are one thing, but how the fuck hasn’t Bixby been killed and buried yet???

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Godnroc@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Useless display in refrigerators finally revealed as corporate ploy to install billboard in consumer’s kitchens.

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philosloppy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
if you bought a smart fridge, you get what you deserve

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acchariya@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Will they come and collect it for a refund if you don’t agree with the new TOS?

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RalphWolf@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The other crime here is Bixby.

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phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Samsung is committed to innovation and enhancing every day value for our home appliance customers.

Awesome, you’re going to make my life…

As part of our ongoing efforts to strengthen that value, we are conducting a pilot program to offer promotions and curated advertisements on certain Samsung Family Hub refrigerator models in the U.S. market.

Worse.

Fuck Samsung

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