Submitted 6 months ago by vegeta@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
MRW someone posts about Reddit still being a shit community tolerating abuse on a downward arc from Advance Publications, to Mods (fuck Spez), to users.
“Hey guys, I heard about a poppin’ new club! The cover is only $10, but bouncers get to backhand anyone anytime they feel like it, and kick you out anytime that you advocate support for anything even slightly left of center.” /s ᕕ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ᕗ
Break it hahaha! Fuck that place!
Imagine still using Reddit in 2025.
Must I?
It’s interesting to see the site treat it’s unpaid workers more and more like low level employees. I guess capitalists just can’t help themselves.
and allowing AI to train thier models. Reddits /GOOGLE and lesser extent openai is stuck at the hip.
The mods under discussion are the ones that mod more than FIVE large communities. if those people haven’t figured out a way to make that a paying gig, then they’re doing it wrong.
some mods are admins themselves, and some only care about POWER so not so much about money. and then theres the propaganda subs, like r/conservatives(well known to be backed by russia)
Speaking as a former top 1%er redditor… figuring out how to do it and being willing to do it are two completely different things.
Life would be so much easier if I lacked basic human ethics. :)
What kind of meat stick would do this? I still just literally cannot understand why someone would put themself in this position, no matter how entrenched into their parents basement they are, or how bad they smell.
At the risk of agreeing with Reddit:
Under new rules rolling out over the coming months, a small number of users will be required to leave some of their moderator posts so that they aren’t moderating more than five subreddits with 100,000 monthly visitors.
That sounds perfectly reasonable. Reddit has a massive powermod problem.
This was desperately needed.
But I’m not convinced they aren’t just going to make alts.
reddit might want AI to control some of the subs, dont you think?
It could be viewed as reasonable if viewed alone. I think that its fine and could make a lot of sense for control over their platform.
The history of reddit sheds a different context in my mind though. Mods are volunteers. Subreddits were established to moderate themselves, implementing nuanced rules for their specific topics that might differ from other subs that need completely different rules and approaches. Its part of what made reddit unique compared to alternate sites.
Then they made moderating much more difficult by eliminating third party apps. Then they started implementing their plans to take the platform where they wanted it, which is fine because its their platform, but they wanted all their mods to do a bunch of work and in a certain manner to make it so. Very demanding on free labor.
So there’s mods still around and they want to restrict them more? Who knows, maybe that’s a great idea but they made the mess they’re in. This decision isn’t a single on on its own, its part of a stack of them.
It would have made sense if done years ago. Doing it now is suspicious.
Yes, but they are also doing this to deleverage their mods and consolidate censorship power with coporate
admins actually are the one that hold all the power on the site, mods are the plebs that have to play ball. admins are only 2nd in power to spez. they are the ones behind the aggressive somewhat indiscrminate shadowbans and purges
Yeah. I mean, I remembered seeing someone named awkwardturtle on there and they moderated like some 30+ subreddits? That's ridiculous.
Users like that should not have that much power.
True, but Reddit let this problem fester for a long time.
What's interesting to me here regarding this, is Reddits current preparation timescale. This isn't going to be enforced until March 31st, 2026. This tells me that Reddit would have been unprepared for a complete mass-walkout of community moderators during the 2023 Reddit API strikes. A large chunk of Reddit during that period was genuinely inaccessible. But after a few token gestures and a few examples made of some especially rebellious mod-teams, most of the striking moderators returned.
A huge opportunity was missed by people running major communities to functionally degrade Reddit in at least the medium-term as a website. You can't just hastily promote random people to replace moderators Reddit is either forced to remove or who leave voluntarily. The average person is likely too lazy, too arbitrary and too corrupt to effectively oversee communities of notable sizes.
actually, thier purges since the election was too effective, and removed so much users and mods by banning them. plus the shadowbans have dramatically increased, because they made the filters to sensitive to "potential bots/spammers)
I was on one of those “especially rebellious mod-teams”. We were even interviewed by Ars Technica about it all at the time.
On advice of a majority of our users, we took our sub offline and kept it that way until Reddit booted us as mods. Honestly, this was the outcome I was expecting — hell, I was pretty open about goading them into it. What was the alternative — to cave to the platform that was abusing us so I could keep working for them for free?
That’s the part I didn’t understand about my fellow mods from other subs. Many of them caved pretty quickly. Their identities seemed to be so tied up in being a Reddit mod that they couldn’t let it go, even though the relationship was obviously very unequal. Too many other people stood up after witnessing the mod abuse to take over from those who got the boot, just asking for the Reddit boot to be applied to their necks instead.
Well, I wish all the mods the kind of treatment they forgave/ignored the last time around.
The quality of reddit took a massive hit after the strike and never recovered.
The problem with powermod isn’t that they exist, though. Moderation of a large sub is still done by volunteers that have had to hack solutions together because they don’t get a lot of support from Reddit. It helps Reddit to have experienced mods overseeing several subs because they bring with them experience on how to handle high profile and large scale moderation efforts. They are a technical talent pool that Reddit relies upon a lot.
The problem is that Reddit has shitty mod governance. It still uses rank by add date and offers no ability for users to kick a mod out except for TOS faults. Reddit doesn’t want to fix mod governance issues because it creates a legitimate mod power structure and Reddit doesn’t want to give that much power to users, including mods.
That said, Reddit’s shitty mod governance was copied directly to Lemmy.
Not really. The powermods arent bringing anything unique moderation except a network that allows them to control content for a specific audience. This is not about enforcing subreddit rules its about subreddit mods pushing an agenda across their subs and pushing sponsored posts outsides reddits ad program.
Its overall a good thing but the powermods will be replaced with reddit admins doing the ame
We all presume that being the mod of several large reddit communities doesn’t include the possibility of sidehustle financial benefits.
Yet, humans are innovators of corruption! And I can only assume that any multi-mega-subreddit moderator has worked out something to make what is obviously a full time job worth their time.
I heard mods of big subreddits can get basically sponsored by big companies and go to events. Half the pc gaming subreddits have what are basically ad posts pinned by the mods.
Given Reddit’s past unreasonableness, I wouldn’t be surprised if this otherwise reasonable explanation has an alternative motive.
Gotta boost user numbers.
Or obscure them considering not letting people see sub count only daily/weekly activities
The motive is these mods hold a decent amount of power on the platform that they wish to reduce. They don’t want a repeat of the API protests.
That was my reaction too. I don’t feel like digging in to see if it’s actually bad though. Not gonna affect my life.
Its probably related to the whole paying users thing.
What’s the second logo?
The outer right one? This is lemmy. A link aggregator like reddit
Me literally every time my friends start bitching about Instagram.
Just remember, people will be more open to trying the stuff you’re into if you’re compassionate about the things they’re frustrated with!
(This is intended for anyone who wants friends or acquaintances to try the fediverse platforms. For those who don’t or don’t care that’s perfectly valid too :)
I’m always like “who the fuck uses Instagram?” I guess I’m living in a different world entirely.
The best way to leave reddit is to get permabanned.
Another easy way is to use a VPN like Mullvad. They block you and you can’t see anything.
I DO use Mullvad! It’s only $5 a month. I love it.
They use weirdly aggressive fingerprinting to make sure you don’t make any new accounts, too. What a bunch of weirdos.
Can corroborate lmao. They’ve saved me so much time that I usually spent correcting misinfo, but I guess that’s what they want on their platform. Anyways Lemmy’s been an okay replacement.
Can confirm. You can have the mildest takes and still get permbanned.
Did you know, that saying Neo-Nazis should be named and shamed is a permbannable offense?
Reddit is becoming Xitter 2.0 and I’m really hoping the remaining human users on there figure it out soon.
actually since reddit start scrutinizing new accounts and old accounts, you dont even need to cmment to get shadowbanned. thier AI just assume “sudden activity from a new or old account, is consider bannable” they see these types of accounts as potential bots. but we know reddit just wants less users, and only browsers to site anyways.
There’s still way too many niche communities on Reddit that just haven’t taken off on Lemmy e.g. alternative a. Non-team sports.
There’s a ViolentMonkey script that can automatically delete all of your Reddit comments. I just run that every few days.
It’s not ideal, but it’s the best that I can do if I value access to those communities, which I do.
I feel like I went through withdrawals, took like a month to get over it, now I rarely use reddit, not missing anything, just thought I was, I guess I do miss reddit from like 2015, but it was getting worse every year, one of my last posts months before my permaban was asking for alternatives. (It’s how I found lemmmy lol)
Reddit is also at a point where everything has been asked and is asked again weekly, i don’t really need to post/comment anything myself and my votes mean nothing because of the volume. Most of my comments would get lost in a void.
i think everyone, before the ban was pretty addicted to reddit especally logging in. i only skim through reddit now and then. i visit pet related, and science related subs more often(since im banned i just browse without logging in)
It’s so easy
Yes, I expressed outrage at a disgusting state sanctioned murder in Iraq and suggested the invaders perpetrating these horror deserve to see the same kind of violence in their own cities. Permaban of the entire website forever. I could easily evade the ban but, this was also when the API trouble and the “reddit is fun” app stopped working. The writing was on the wall, duck that place and everyone in it. I won’t be taken hostage anymore.
I never looked back and I’m glad I did, I was wasting so much of my precious time in that ducking disgusting dump. I hope Lemmy doesn’t Septemberify for a long time. I really hope steps are taken to prevent centralization and owner dominance of Lemmy before it becomes reddit with extra steps
Id go back just to try and get banned again. I’ve tried everything I can think of. Always get shadow banned right away.
on many the large subs, you can get ban for overreporting to.
Lenny doesn’t really work like that. It’s not just one site.
lol can confirm
Literally another attempt to appear legit by putting in place an easily circumventable rule.
So first they don’t even check if mods are using alt accounts to moderate other subs but even if they do force it, it’s so easy to click a button on your VPN and you are free to be anyone you want according to “Reddit Corps Super Advanced Security System.”
Well reddit has a vpn detection system, they have been automatically banning vpn user since last year, so its very risky to even use it, its very easy to detect it from reddit. thats why some power users have hundreds of accounts/thousands using more expensive methods. and i heard they are even detecting some of those now.
Reddit can ban users across vpn with their automated system. Its even easier if they have tasked someone to look into doing it. I doubt people are taking enough steps to prevent the browser fingerprinting that gives them a unique signature.
reddit sniffs out vpn too easily now. the people that earning income with thier hundreds of accounts are paying for devices, a way to shield your browser from reddits fingerprinting, ,etc detection. plus using mobile proxies.
Well they haven’t figured out how to ban on my VPN 😂
Kurious84@eviltoast.org 6 months ago
Reddit is basically state controlled.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 months ago
since spez is inlove with how musk is running things, he wants it to be facebook/twitter clone, where people just browse the site without logging in, and exposing them to tons of ads.