Clearly it’s a parental problem to determine if the VPN they are buying for their kids is being used to wank off, but apparently this party of ‘liberty’ has an unhealthy obsession with monitoring our children’s genitalia these days.
Stop children using VPNs to watch porn, ministers told
Submitted 8 months ago by themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn438z3ejxyo
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fluxion@lemmy.world 8 months ago
AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Unfortunately, neither Labour nor Conservatives are parties of liberty, although there are some individuals within both that see the importance.
xc2215x@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Banning Pornhub makes them use the VPNs in the first place.
Gerudo@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
You ban something, and people will always find a way around it. Always.
piecat@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Dead drop USBs for file sharing?
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Yup, and that’s how the US got the Mafia. We banned alcohol, but people wanted to drink, so the Mafia made that happen.
All a ban does is hurt law abiding citizens and businesses.
ICastFist@programming.dev 8 months ago
Not all bans are bad or hurt law abiding citizens. Slavery and gambling come to mind, both still exist illegally (or, in the case of gambling, semi-legally, what with the deluge of sports betting and online casinos HQd in shitty countries), but I would say them being illegal is a net positive for society.
Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
This is a fairly revisionist history version of the mafia, they were here for decades before prohibition. One might say that they profited greatly from prohibition, but to suggest they began with it is incredibly incorrect. I hate to be the actually guy but I find organized crime fascinating and I can’t let this one go
frongt@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Let’s say they do. So people start using non UK VPNs. So you need age verification for any Internet access? For any computer or phone that could connect to the Internet?
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
So you need age verification for any Internet access? For any computer or phone that could connect to the Internet?
I mean, experts have said for a while that if you’re going to require age verification, doing it directly on the device would be the most secure way. Allow parents to verify their phones, while creating child accounts for their kids.
When the site needs to verify their age, it simply asks the device directly if the user account is age-verified. It all happens in the background, so the adults never even need to bother with it once it’s set up.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That makes sense. And seems like it would have much easier implementation as well.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Don’t parental controls exist for a reason? Can’t you just block VPN use on individual devices like an additional parental control rather than making everyone that uses a VPN prove they’re not a child?
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
and here we have the heart of the issue, and their end goal. identification required for Internet access. total control.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
100% and as always they boil it down to “well even if all that other stuff is true, it’s for the safety of children.”
Yet we have fucking confirmation that exposing networks of wealthy and powerful pedophiles is not on the agenda. Those people are untouchable. Those people are also the ones that we are handing complete control over to.
So who tf are we really protecting children from by doing this?
palordrolap@fedia.io 8 months ago
That's what they're aiming for, yes.
They want to know where everyone is and what every person is doing at every possible moment of every day, be that in public or on the Internet. They are paranoid and know that their entire system is in danger of collapse with the common man gaining control over the rich and powerful.
Thus they resort to extreme control of the commoners to ensure that won't happen.
Child protection and anti-pornography stances are perfect excuses because they're very difficult to argue against.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 8 months ago
Every time some new measure is released “for protection”, the next day it’s being used to snuff out dissidents. That usually means journalists, activists (political, labor, environment, …) and sympathisants to give them a bit of pressure to straight up arrest them on some pretense.
Serinus@lemmy.world 8 months ago
difficult to argue against.
Well, except for this one.
FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Dame Rachel told BBC Newsnight: “Of course, we need age verification on VPNs - it’s absolutely a loophole that needs closing and that’s one of my major recommendations.”
If this bitch had any idea what VPN even stood for they’d realize how fuckin stupid this statement is…
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Stop ministers using VPNs to watch child porn.
Told!
HyperfocusSurfer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Pidof files aside, them implying they need to watch children watching porn is not much better.toad31@lemmy.cif.su 8 months ago
Yeah, never forget how the people in power routinely gave Epstein a pass because they were participating in raping kids.
All this “for the children” is performative bullshit to take more power away from the average person.
twinnie@feddit.uk 8 months ago
Everyone’s scared of Reform getting in and yet Reform are the only ones promising to reverse all this. All this is done based off the back of a 2016 survey where parents said they were worried about kids watching porn on the internet, but the survey gave no indication of what a solution would look like and gave no online age verification and banning VPNs.
gmtom@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Unfortunately amongst the unwashed masses of the British public this bill isnt actually particularly unpopular.
Mondez@lemdro.id 8 months ago
I don’t think it’s particularly popular either, no one seems to even really know about it.
Bahnd@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If I had a nickle for ever time the UK did something pants-on-head stupid or short-sighted from a minor survey or public poll, [counts change jar]… How much are big macs these days?
TwigletSparkle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
yourparty.uk
Naich@lemmings.world 8 months ago
Wow that doesn’t look shady at all.
muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 8 months ago
Why are people scared of reform getting in?
Naich@lemmings.world 8 months ago
Because they are a bunch of idiot racist grifters. And those are their good points.
monogram@feddit.nl 8 months ago
Racism, homophobia & sexism mostly, but I’m sure I’m missing a few.
MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Ya! Let them watch all that violence on Netflix instead!
balder1991@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yeah, is the next step to ban games like Free Fire, Counter Strike etc.?
Quazatron@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’ve always been fascinated by the lengths puritans will go to prevent kids from seeing mammary glands, while simultaneously being ok with them watching blood and violence.
toad31@lemmy.cif.su 8 months ago
I’ve thought about this at length, and the conclusion I came to is that violence about self-sufficiency, while sex is about cooperation. With violence, you take matters into your own hands and you’re in control regardless of what others feel. With sex, it’s the exact opposite. You’re at their mercy and they have power over you.
It makes sense in our hostile culture to teach kids about self-sufficiency and taking power for themselves. If they give that power up to others, then it opens them up to manipulation and exploitation.
I’m not making a judgement call on what’s right or wrong, only what is.
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Seriously though. We’ll legislate anything to keep them from seeing stuff they might reasonably expect to see and do one day and glorify things nobody should ever see or experience in person.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yeah, it’s just all these children with their bank accounts paying for their VPN subscriptions doing it all… Do they think we’re that stupid? Don’t answer that. 😔
stsquad@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
It’s the free VPNs that are the problem. They are privacy nightmares.
thr0w4w4y2@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
If only there was some way the government could have predicted this would happen and maybe not rushed a poorly thought out law in the first place!
maybe then they would not have:
- forced big tech companies to withdraw service to the uk
- forced uk-based small forums and message boards to close
- given free vpn providers tons more data to sell
- reduced the overall cyber resilience of the country by forcing people to choose between giving photos of their passports to some weird online service or signing up for a free vpn which sells their data, may inject their own unregulated adverts etc
- reduced uk based advertising effectiveness and thus investment and marketing spend
- pissed everyone off while doing it, scoring yet another win for the far right
absolute roasters the lot of them
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Which is worse, the free VPNs or the UK government?
Lembot_0004@discuss.online 8 months ago
Stop ministers making laws to… why the fuck they even do this bullshit? They are a government, they know everything about everyone even without such primitive control methods.
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The people pulling the strings have obviously decided that internet freedom is a threat to them and they’re taking (global) action to ensure their supremacy.
altphoto@lemmy.today 8 months ago
Watch them get Halloween masks to make them look like grammar just so they can automatically get recognized into the good stuff… BDSM burrito spiroasting. When I was a kid I kept a matchbox that I found on the streets. It was this awesome woman with the best looking naturally inspired gigantic breasts from Dick’s last resort. Who ever dropped those, thanks man, you made my member at least 1/4" taller. At least. I don’t know what the effects are to be honest.