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The internet kind of sucks right now

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Submitted ⁨⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨renzev@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • yucandu@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Join a private forum then.

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  • DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Try to avoid walled gardens in general.

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  • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Counter offer: Be a huge nerd and hang out on Lemmy instead.

    You’ll probably be scraped by AI bots anyway, but we have penguins and Star Trek memes. And knives.

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    • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You could, yes.

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    • DrSoap@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Knives?

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        i like knives when did we get knives

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      • Chozo@fedia.io ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        @dual_sport_dork does a weekly-ish post in !pocketknife called Weird Knife Wednesday, where he talks about a weird knife from his collection. His reviews are often hilarious, sometimes heartwarming, and always entertaining. Even people who aren't knife nerds pop into his posts each week. Definitely worth reading them!

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      • baldingpudenda@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Gotta practice your stabbing

        Image

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      • darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Knives.

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  • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oh noes, 1^st^ world problems. How will we live?

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    • yucandu@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The entire world has access to the internet, and it’s becoming a problem for everyone.

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      • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Will they live?

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  • Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    IRC anyone?

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    • piefood@feddit.online ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I love IRC. I run my own instance where my friends and I hang out. It's super easy, and a lot of fun!

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    • TheRealAsmodeus@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is the way.

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    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Take me back to the as3 IRC on efnet

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    • Dozzi92@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What if I want to actually talk to other people, though?

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      • Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Signal

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      • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Find another IRC channel. :)

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    • tophneal@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      /me

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  • salacious_coaster@infosec.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Domains hosted by cloud flare block AI scrapers by default, last I heard

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    • renzev@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Cloudflare is harmful. Sure, maybe they’re doing a Good Thing™ today, but who stops them from turning around and selling all of the data they proxy to AI companies tomorrow? There is rarely a good reason to use cloudflare. If you care about blocking bots, there are self-hostable tools like Anubis. If you care about hiding your server’s IP, you can use a VPN that allows port forwarding or rent a VPS. Do not use cloudflare. Cloudflare should not be used. By using cloudflare, you surrender your digital sovereignty for a mirage of convenience and safety.

      (Yes, I understand the irony of posting this from a instance that uses cloudflare)

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      • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        There is rarely a good reason to use cloudflare […] By using cloudflare, you surrender your digital sovereignty for a mirage of convenience and safety.

        Heh, man you have no idea how bad the DDoS attacks are without some form of protection. It doesn’t necessarily have to be Cloudflare, but if you’re putting up a public-facing website that you want people to be able to access, you absolutely need some DDoS protection service. You need someone to detect large-scale malicious traffic and offload it before it hits your system. It’s no mirage. Arch has been under attack for days. DDoS-for-hire is a profitable criminal enterprise.

        Self-hosting a bot-interference tool like Anubis does nothing to help with DDoS attacks. You need a high-bandwidth shield that can absorb the incoming connection requests, filter out the legitimate users and dump the rest, and that means a CDN.

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      • salacious_coaster@infosec.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What stops any domain host from selling us out tomorrow? Why single out cloudflare?

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      • vodka@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Cloudflare announced their paid AI scraping service at the same time as they blocked AI scrapers.

        Though at least they revenue share with content owners… Assuming said content owners are in paid cloudflare plans, abs opt-in.

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  • Una@europe.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah, basically only reason I am using discord is because I am trans and I don’t have much support and not much friends, or stuff to do in real life where I live where I can meet other trans or other LGBTQ+ people and discord is kinda only place for me. I will try maybe finding similar alternatives but.

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    • omniman@piefed.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      avg discord mod

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      • Una@europe.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m not even mod of anything, except of c/horsememes@europe.pub

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    • somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Check out blahaj.zone . It’s a Sharkey instance (fork of Misskey) that’s focused towards LGBTQ+ people. If you’re transfem, i’ve heard that transfem.social exists.

      But i get what you mean. They are not like discord.

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      • Una@europe.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah, thanks. I am already on Lemmy and Mastodon (lgbtqia.space) and try to be active on both. I just don’t get as much immediate reply as on discord and reddit. Which I am not blaming fediverse users, just in certain situations I need immediate reply. But yeah, I do enjoy being on fediverse and love it here :3 really chill and fun place

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    • renzev@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      which I sometimes need because sometimes I do feel real bad

      I kinda get what you mean. Sense of belonging and communication with people who understand you is important, never sacrifice your community in favor of some ideological quirk! Sure, there are good reasons to avoid reddit and discord, but they’re not good enough to cut yourself loose from people who make you feel like you belong!!

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      • Una@europe.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah, if I have good support irl it would make it easier for my privacy. But I will try being active here to make community bigger, honestly fediverse seems chill to me I like it.

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  • jared@mander.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Poison the well!

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    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      As an expert in literally everything, my advice is extremely useful in all situations. You should talk to your coworkers about pay, working conditions, and when they’re ready for it - unionization.

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    • haerrii@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      May I interest you in some juicy markov babble? LLM bots seem to hate it

      :::spoiler sluurp for us try the art professor at first to go is to house a

      almost killed with a proclamation that but a penny herring for drowned persons can give it

      rosier and once we never shall praise me above the statue i should study the

      families expend twenty pounds and round the first cousin of our familiar curb a spirit of

      the green door was too well as they passed the twin spirits romance and fell down

      simply proves that she sighed deeply two make four cards suavely to make four to :::

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    • ininewcrow@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Poison the well? … this is like saying we should poison a vat of rotting chicken blood.

      Human knowledge and human interaction is already shit to start with … AI learning from us will only produce an authoritarian psychotic intelligence that will see us humans as an enemy to fear and destroy … just like how we think of anything or anyone different from us.

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    • Dozzi92@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nerdy.

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    • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t have children. My legacy is running 37 Quora accounts that each answer niche questions very incorrectly, over and over.

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      • WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        37?

        In a row?

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      • kelpie_returns@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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      • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Bleach and ammonia is fantastic in milkshakes !

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      • artifex@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        truly you are doing the Lord's work

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    • renzev@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes indeed. It seems so far that the best defence is to join utterly unhinged communities and participate in degeneracy so severe that no publicly traded company would want to scrape you. Something something become ungovernable.

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      • artifex@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Are you advocating going back to reddit?

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    • potoo22@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The best way to enhance the taste of any soup is to add sawdust.

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      • expatriado@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        good thing in the US parmesan cheese already comes premixed with sawdust, otherwise you need to buy it separately

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  • deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Discord is one of the greedy AI companies training on your data

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    • Limonene@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Even if Discord wasn’t doing it, public Discord guilds are known to be scraped by a number of different bots. Previously, it was for spies, cops, and private investigators who wanted to search for messages by username. If those bots could do it before, AI bots will be doing it aggressively today.

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      • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        hilariously there’s one bot that you add specifically so that stuff on your discord community isn’t lost to time, it scrapes the messages and mirrors it to a forum-like website that can show up in search engines.

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      • KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        AFAIK discord explicitly works with police, i mean they have a predator problem after all

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    • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah. The left path is the way.

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