Submitted 4 hours ago by Patnou@lemmy.world to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world
Fight choreography only works against someone who also knows the choreography. Then it’ll play out according to the choreography.
The real world doesn’t work that way.
Keanu does have extensive general firearms training though. So if he had a gun you’d likely be in trouble.
If I had a gun I’d likely be in trouble too. And I don’t even need general firearms training for that!
I read this in The Soldier’s voice. “Sun tzu said that!”
So if he had a gun you’d likely be in trouble
Not if you don’t mess with his dog
So if he had a gun you’d likely be in trouble.
Lol
I think it depends on how the actor prepares. Keanu is known to be super involved in his stunts and has done a fair amount of actual firearms training. I believe he’s competed in some amateur events.
I would absolutely expect him to be significantly more skilled with firearms than the average person.
And even if he wasn’t John Wick, I just cannot imagine the justification for fucking with Keanu Reeves.
I think all actors retain their ability to act, yes. What you are likely seeing in a movie however is a stunt performer doing choreographed and well rehearsed moves.
I hate to be the one to break it to you, but, Keanu isn’t actually killing all those people.
It’s choreography.
They say walk through this door, lift your left arm to block the punch from this guy, then point your gun that way, duck under the guy charging you from behind and then point the gun that way. He might learn some basic stances but most of his fighting experience is how to LOOK like you punched somebody without actually hurting them.
IIRC the actors in Matrix did ~6 months of kung fu training, and Keanu did a ton of shooting training for John wick. Of course all the movie stuff is choreographed but it doesn’t mean there’s nothing behind it in all cases.
He’s actually pretty fit and does a lot of stunts himself.
That doesn’t mean he can fight. Sure, he could hold his own against someone like me (also no fight training or experience plus not at all fit) but I wouldn’t want him as a bodyguard.
Ohhh now the whole Rust controversy makes sense. I always thought it was weird that they got upset about 1 person dying when hundreds died for the John Wick movies
No.
I’m watching Jean Claude Van Damme’s filmography right now. He’s a trained fighter. He was taught to act, but was never really good at it.
Coming at it backwards
Jackie Chan was a martial artist who fought (on screen) his way into the film industry. Hard to imagine Keanu Reeves becoming a martial artist anywhere near the caliber of Jackie Chan’s
There are obviously those like Gary Oldman, who, unless you paid close attention to the credits list, won’t be able to tell that he worked in the Fifth Element, Harry Potter, and the Christopher Nolan Batman trilogy. Did he learn new skills for the movies he worked in? Most likely yes. Does he retain those skills? Only as much as he practices them or else like in all of us, I’d wager that those skills atrophied away from the moment respective films wrapped up shooting.
If anything, those skills look more like accessories to the critical job of acting on screen.
No, they have to return their martial arts skills after the movie ends.
These predatory industry contracts are out of control.
Watching the various motorcycle touring series that Ewan McGregor and Charlie Boorman made hints at some of the realities of this intersection between life and acting.
There’s several references to skills that Ewan picked up to make one or other movie and how those skills are now part of “life”.
I do seem to recall that Ewan also pointed out that these skills were incomplete, pretending to be a chef convincingly requires some actual skills, but not decades of background training.
I doubt that it’s substantially any different from learning a new hobby and moving on to the next one and starting again. You don’t forget the first hobby and are likely to use some of it in the next one. Other than being taught by an actual expert, which seems like a potential unexpected perk of acting.
In short, the journey of life is peppered with things you learn, regardless of your chosen profession.
# /s, very obviously
Ah, but it only gets garbage collected once the references to the class are lost. So, if you want to keep your abilities, stay classy!
If they’re anything like me learning something specific to do a one-off job, they’ll forget about it as soon as it wraps up.
He’s acquired a certain set of skills.
My understanding is that his firearms training and proficiency are quite good.
He did a lot of his own stunts, and did train a bit of BJJ and other martial arts training, but probably doesn’t have enough hours of training for proficiency.
With respect to firearms training, I’d put Tom Cruise near the top.
In real life, they don’t drop their guns to “settle it like men”
Keanu Reeves seems to have some level of real gun skill. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xii9_oWQ7HY
But if you shoot him he will die, because in reality you usually die the second someone tries to shoot you. There is no such thing as avoiding gunfire. If the barrel is pointed at you, you are probably dead.
There are three effective methods of avoiding gunfire, in increasing order of efficacy:
Note that there is generally a rather wide span of distance between 3 and 2, and also 2 and 1 where you probably don’t want to be standing.
In most cases, they didn’t learn anything except for a very choreographed scene that would not be useful at all in an actual fight.
It's like any other skill. If you keep it up you'll remain proficient and if you don't it'll eventually fade away.
shalafi@lemmy.world 4 minutes ago
You’ll like this one OP!
In 2009, three masked burglars broke into Dolph Lundgren’s home, tied up and threatened his wife, but fled after finding a family photo and realizing whose home they’d broken into.
I will break you.