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Why don't people like Melon Tusk get tired of the shit they gave you pull through literally every day ? I mean doesn't the guilt of bad decisions pull them down enough like the rest of us ?

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  • Zombiepirate@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    People like that genuinely believe that they should be in charge because of who they are. He has absolutely no feelings of guilt about the terrible things that he does; he thinks they’re good because he did them. Narcissistic megalomaniacs, especially ultra wealthy ones, lose their ability to empathize (or even the ability to mask and pretend) because they quite literally never have to care about how another person feels. I do think he’s confused as to why people hate him though. He sees himself as a lovable cheeky troll instead of the Nazi dickhead that he clearly is.

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    • Mrkawfee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Before the not-a-cunt mask slipped he was seen as a cool, anti establishment troll by space nerds. I think he is trying to get back to that.

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      • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        But that mask slipped long ago… and the longer you look at his past the further back in time it slips…

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      • Zombiepirate@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        How anyone can see a billionaire as “anti-establishment” is beyond me.

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      • paranoia@feddit.dk ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        There isn’t really any rehabilitation of his current image possible. It’s not like he did one or two bad things he could apologise for, it was systematic and continuous. He’s revealed himself to be a fascist which is pretty bad to begin with, but also a degenerate which repels even the fascists from liking him.

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    • pocker_machine@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      On the face of it, it looks like that. It probably is that.

      But if we think about it for a moment. He is a person after all. Brushes teeth, eats, po*p s like everyone else. And it is sometimes when we do these mundane things in our lives, we just think. At least during some of those moments there would be some self reflection. Everyone has something to be guilty about. It’s just that these kind of people have a lot of options in that area. So I’m wondering if they are just in denial. And that is such a sad superpower to have.

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      • Zombiepirate@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I think it’s a mistake to believe that everyone has a sense of empathy; there are plenty of people who do not because of their brain meat or their experiences.

        I think the closest Musk gets is the desperate and pathetic attempts to get gamers to like him: it makes him crazy that he can’t just buy their respect like he does for everything else that he wants.

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      • entwine413@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        He doesn’t do that thinking. People like him are incapable of self reflection because they truly believe they can do no wrong.

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      • pixelkitty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        There is quite a bit of evidence that, in his spare “thinking” time, he is ingesting a huge amount of mind-altering drugs.

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      • OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I’m with the other commenter. There are people in this world born without empathy, and within that group, there is another two subsets, those that can learn it, and those that can not. It gets broken down further to people who can learn it and use it for good and learn it and use it to manipulate.

        People born without these emotions aren’t common, but there really are ‘psychopaths’ out there that don’t/can’t/won’t feel things for other people. The only hope for these people is therapy, and even then, therapy is a double edged sword that also teaches them the tools to manipulate. And to a group that already is predisposed to not care how others feel, that’s a risky move.

        …wikipedia.org/…/Antisocial_personality_disorder

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  • RandomUser@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    For people like that there’s no compassion, regret or remorse, it’s either water under the bridge or someone else’s fault.

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    • spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yeah, they wouldn’t reach that level of wealth if they had any amount of compasssion or self awareness.

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      • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        ☝️🥇

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  • Signtist@bookwormstory.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    People who are capable of feeling guilt for hurting others would never do the terrible things required to achieve such a position anyway. It’s the way they make sure only people who are part of the in-group get that high on the ladder. At best, Elon sees us as insignificant specs that don’t even register in his brain. At worst, he hates us and actively enjoys making us suffer.

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  • stefenauris@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Please don’t alter names so those who want to filter them out can successfully do so

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    • pocker_machine@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Oh sorry I didn’t think of that. I was just using his name in a funny way. Besides my intention were about people like him, but the discussion went about him anyways.

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      • stefenauris@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I totally get that, I twist things like that all the time for comedy :) Just wanted to point out something I didn’t think about the first time someone told me either. Because I’ve had days where I literally can’t even and shut it all off lol

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    • Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Some people may alter names and words to avoid retaIiation if/when the oIigarchs figure out how to scrap Iemmy for keywords in search for those who may oppose them. This is already happening on other pIatforms.

      I don’t have a solution to this dilemma.

      I will continue to protect myself in favor of assisting others to keep their heads in the sand.

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    • _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      There are only a few variations in popular use, if it bothers you that much, filter them too.

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    • Kaboom@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I think that was the point, to get those filters. Op is a jackass if true

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  • db2@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    A wise man once said “they not like us”.

    They’ve got a head full of bad wiring but because they control the money they get away with that psycho shit. As to whether it bothers them it doesn’t, they’re not capable of it.

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  • spittingimage@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Elon’s a big believer in Ethical Altruism - the idea that any action you take is ethical as long as it improves life for someone. In his case ‘someone’ is future generations, ie. people who can’t tell him his actions on their behalf are wrong, because they don’t exist yet. It works as long as you don’t think about it too hard, which he doesn’t.

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  • JTskulk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You know he does ketamine, right? The drug that makes you feel like you’re not yourself but someone else instead?

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  • 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That’s probably what the drugs are for

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    • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Drugs is a helluva drug

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  • DreamAccountant@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    He’s a nazi, so that means he’s incapable of empathy.

    Any pangs of humanity that might be left are killed with Horse Tranquilizer, Ecstasy, Weed, or whatever the advanced billionaire version drug is that we won’t have access to for another 20 years. Probably because it costs $100,000 a dose or something stupid. He’s a junkie. They have no sympathy, remorse, or the ability to look back on their mistakes. Their only goal is more hard drugs, keep them coming, and fuck anyone with full force that tries to stop the drugs.

    It’s not a secret on either point. He’s an open public nazi. He’s an open public junkie.

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  • Lazycog@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Well, it was just reported widely that he uses a lot of drugs and that it was way more than previously thought, so I’d say that.

    He reportedly uses ketamine, ecstasy and possibly mushrooms. Ketamine usage alone can help him ignore all of that.

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  • swordgeek@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I had a cousin who probably could have been diagnosed as a psychopath. He had no sense of right or wrong, of good or bad. The only think that registered with him was who he could manipulate, and whether he could get away with it.

    It was interesting to see. At a family funeral, he started goading his brother, talking about how much time he had to golf (in jail, no less) while the brother had to work all the time. He thrived on being an irritant to get his own way.

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  • KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The dude is like, constantly high

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  • yesman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    News reports that Musk is a heavy drug user suggest that he self-medicates to cope.

    Elon knows all the money in the world can’t make him a real boy and that warms my cold dead heart.

    Bonus: Elon’s dad is exactly the kind of POS you’d expect, but his one redeeming quality is that he heaps praise on Elon’s brother while regarding the world’s richest man as a disappointment.

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  • bizzle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They do not feel emotions like you and I do. All they know is hate, fear, and all consuming greed.

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  • MerrySkeptic@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    1. He’s a narcissist. People don’t get to his level of wealth by having compassion for the feelings of others. No billionaire ever gat there through their own hard work, they did it by taking advantage of the hard work of other people. He literally does not give a fuck. But narcissists aren’t typically born in a vacuum.

    2. Do some research on his upbringing. His father was a narcissist and did all he could to make his son unfettered by compassion for others through constant power games and humiliation. He was raised in South Africa where there was a huge macho culture and it was expected that the strong took advantage of the weak. Elon himself was picked on mercilessly by his classmates, though so he literally had to cope by suppressing his own emotions and not caring about the feelings of most others. I say “most” because the exception would be the fact that he was constantly trying to earn the approval of his father because of his twisted upbringing. Even after his parents divorced when he was 9, he eventually went back to live with his dad despite the constant criticism. In short, Elon learned during his formative years that compassion was a weakness and you can’t just flip a switch to unlearn that.

    3. He does copious amounts of drugs and sleeps with a constant stream of women to hide from any possible problematic feelings that would get in the way of his ambitions

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  • PP_BOY_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Image

    Buyers remorse

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  • Pudutr0n@feddit.cl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    People can get used to anything.

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    • pocker_machine@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      True, but still, by getting used to does it mean they don’t bring cringe inducing memories to themselves. I know the feeling when some of mine bottle up once in a while. But I can’t imagine how much they would be for people like him and Orange Bob. It is superhuman level of self tolerance.

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  • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That is the thing about narcissism…

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  • reksas@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They have no guilt. They likely see rest of us as weak and stupid, worthy only of being exploited.

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  • edgemaster72@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The man thinks (or at least says) empathy is a bad thing. There’s no guilt without a conscience, and no conscience without empathy. Obscenely unfathomable wealth takes care of the rest.

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    • cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Thing is, hes criticized amphetamines geavily exactly because they blunt empathy. He’s tweeted at length comments about amphetamine and Adderall minimizing empathy and bringing out the inner asshole

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  • RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Displacement is a hell of a coping mechanism.

    Until it isn’t.

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  • plyth@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They evaluate reality with other priorities. To them it seems like they are doing good.

    Almost all cruelties are committed for the greater good. People just disagree on what is good.

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  • cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I think Putin has kompromat on him and he in some sense doesn’t have a choice. I’m not trying to absolve him of agency but i think he did a horrible thing that he can easily and reliably be totally controlled with that the russians possibly put together

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  • sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Ketamine or other drugs it seems

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