Perhaps, it might already be lurking in your car right now.
Enjoy your drive! 🫠
Submitted 1 day ago by throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
Perhaps, it might already be lurking in your car right now.
Enjoy your drive! 🫠
Definitely if you own a Tesla
Actually kind of thinking about that, In the context of older cars, it might be that they will start getting more valuable because they don’t have computers in them. And then the police might look suspiciously at anybody driving a classic car from the 80s or something.
I think this has been happening since a lot of the assistive driving features started appearing. I know in my (rural) area a lot of people avoid cars with lane assistance because it can interfere with driving tighter and less well painted roads.
I always turn lane assist off because it is all false positives with no benefit. It isn’t needed becaus I’m paying attention while driving…
we need FOSS cars
We need cars without wireless connectivity again.
The Fast and the FOSSius
We need buses and trains.
Fun fact, you can build your own car too!
FOSC(ars), a subset of FOSH(ardware)
That’s one good thing about capitalism: They can’t use their fancy gizmos to kill me if I can’t afford their gizmos in the first place. 😌
They can’t use their fancy gizmos to kill me
I guess they’ll just have to do it the ol’ fashioned way then…
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing
police aviators then dropped two explosive devices from a Pennsylvania State Police helicopter onto the roof of the occupied house. For 90 minutes, the Philadelphia Police Department allowed the resulting fire to burn out of control, destroying 61 previously evacuated neighboring homes over two city blocks and leaving 250 people homeless.[3] Six adults and five children were killed in the attack,
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How inefficient. Once you have the mandatory Neuralink brain chip installed, it can directly activate your pain centres any time you don’t praise Great Leader Musk fervently enough.
Love the truck though!
Yeah … I’m going to be driving junk trucks and cars for the rest of the my life.
I’m not going to trust driving my car at 120 kph down the highway knowing that some douche bag idiot has a kill switch or access to my steering wheel that may turn it on either intentionally, maliciously or accidentally
As always … I can trust future technology and all the things that we could possibly develop and create … I will never trust the people who own and control all these things.
If you regularly drive a car with a black box in it then you should know the finance company is watching your speed presuming it us a leased car.
Some cars can be disabled remotely as part of the terms you agree to when you lease, not buy, certain cars.
But regardless, that functionality is still built into the car, and could theoretically be used unless you disable the telemetry/communication system.
My recollection from when I sold these cars is that you are correct as the black box is recording it just isn’t telling finance that you are regularly speeding in their car
What? Gah damn. There goes my desire to lease.
First unless there is a tax advantage you should never lease a car.
Second, this largely applies to sportier sedans and actual sports cars. No one cares if your foot is a bit heavy in a Honda Odyssey but they absolutely care if it is a 60k+ car.
Remember you dont own a lease
Exactly - not only can all modern cars remotely be accessed, anyone with access to those [insecure] maintenance pages could hypothetically:
At that point, I wonder what access the car has to affect whether the driver’s phone can make a call…
Isn’t that the same one we found out that most of the data being recorded wasn’t from the cars but data that the sales/maintenance workers were allowed to record when you were at the dealership and they manufactures/dealers could legally sell it do to the contracts. It’s horrible that they do it, but the cars weren’t tracking your sex life, and trying to figure out if you were a lesbian, or if you were even male/female. The dealership was just able to mark information like that down and sell it.
It’s one more reason buying cars direct from the manufacturer for those who choose to should be allowed and not banned by law like states such as Florida have done. We don’t need more middlemen between producer and consumer. It usually only raises prices and creates more privacy issues.
On the other hand: anything anti-consumer like this (like bricking game consoles) has potential to backfire in a myriad of ways when the inevitable exploits are found.
Ransomware customers, target people you don’t like (perhaps even by employees), or simply brick devices to cause returns and/or drive up customer support costs, or just cause a scandal to tarnish the brand itself.
The closer to a real brick it is (rather than just a soft lockout), the more potential there is for disaster.
But when the product/service is functionally mandated by the infrastructure (you need an internet connection to do everything from paying bills to applying for jobs / you need a car to survive in a society full of car-exclusive paved roads) and the commercial seller has a functional cartel/monopoly on production, the manufacturer has less and less reason to treat you as a potentially-loseable client and more as a potentially-saleable commodity.
Turning these high value durable goods into extensions of the lucrative police state surveillance network is appealing to a monopolized industry that’s heavily integrated with the domestic regime.
I can’t imagine owning a car newer than like 2012. It must be a nightmare
It depends. We have two Hondas that are single digit years old and they both have physical buttons/dials for air conditioning and music in addition to the touchscreen. Both have options to turn off the annoying stuff.
In laws had a Subaru and it was awful, everything was in the touch screen and it nagged constantly. Now they have a Cadillac and it is a chore to use as well, including forcing the seat belt just to put it in gear to pull forward a couple feet. Both had extremely distracting touchscreens that made driving them painful.
But those Hondas are still probably 4g capable, right? Because, at that point, it doesn’t matter if you turn the annoying stuff “off”. Honda is still spying on you, tracking you, and compiling a mountain of data based on your driving habits.
My car is still stick. lol you americans and your fancy cars
That only stops them from changing gears for you. They can still remotely shut off your engine, slam on your brakes, and if your car has a lane keep assist steer for you.
I haven’t ever been afraid of those things, I see more likely scenarios of them having it disable the O2 sensor to cause the check engine light to come on and depending on the vehicle cause sputtering and other “serious issue signs.” To convince drivers to take it in for repair. Then just re-enable or replace the sensor for dealers to make a quick hefty buck.
You can steer someone’s car once and when it hits the news people would freak out and the companies stock would crash. You can send 500,000 people to the shop for a sensor malfunction and charge them $200 to repair it make an extra $100,000,000 and fly under the radar pretty easily I imagine. It would be hard to prove that “reseating” the old sensors cable didn’t infact fix the issue
This is why authoritarianism should be aggressively stamped out, before they can do stuff like this and Minority Report.
I havent needed to own a car with a computer in it yet. I’ll just have to keep the 96 Landcruiser running forever.
Toyota Hilux.
MUSK IS A SCHMUCK!!!
You have my permission to activate this feature the next time I’m driving alone. Thank you ahead of time
this seems more like shitIthoughtupwhilestoned
DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 40 minutes ago
jokes on them i dont own a car