Imagine gooning so hard that your mom makes you famous.
Mom sues porn sites (Including Chaturbate, Jerkmate, Superporn and Hentaicity) for noncompliance with Kansas age assurance law; Teen can no longer enjoy life after mom caught him visiting Chaturbate
Submitted 10 months ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
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treadful@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
scarabic@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I mean the kid’s penis must have shriveled up to nothing by now, making the entire case moot.
“Your honor, I move to dismiss on the grounds that the plaintiff’s penis is reduced to a blackened nub.”
“Sustained!”
intheformbelow@lemmy.world 10 months ago
She just didn’t want him to jerk off to her on chaturbate. She performs there regularly as “Giantmagacnt”
Rakonat@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I want to believe this is satire but fuck I will not be fact checking.
venusaur@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Am I the only one that thinks there’s something positive to stricter control of pornography?
Even if you love porn and grew up exposed to it as a kid, you gotta admit that there are psychological effects on avid adult viewers and more on minors.
Think about what was available as a kid, too. Wait 10 min for a 3 minute to load or just search pics. Now it’s a completely different overstimulating world that transforming how people relate to sex and themselves.
ArchRecord@lemm.ee 10 months ago
There’s absolutely something to be said for trying to ensure that people don’t have access to porn as kids, but that doesn’t come from what these legal battles inevitably want to impose, which is ID check requirements that create a massive treasure trove of data for attackers to target to steal IDs, blackmail individuals, and violate people’s privacy, while adding additional costs for porn sites that will inevitably lead to predatory monetization, such as more predatory ads.
The problem is that parents are offloading their own responsibility and education off themselves and schools, and instead placing an unworkable burden onto the sites that host and distribute pornographic content.
We know that when you provide proper sex education, talk to kids about how to safely consume adult content without risking their health, safety, and while setting realistic expectations, you tend to get much better outcomes.
If there’s one thing I think most people are very aware of, it’s that the more you try and hide something from kids, the more they tend to try and resist that, and find it anyways, except without any proper education or safeguards.
It’s why abstinence only education tends to lead to worse outcomes than sex education, even though on the surface, you’re “exposing” kids to sexually related materials.
This doesn’t mean we should deliberately expose kids to porn out of nowhere, remove all restrictions or age checks, etc, but it does mean that we can, for example:
- Implement reasonable sex education in schools. Kids who have sex ed generally engage in healthier masturbation and sex than kids who don’t.
- Have parents talk with their kids about safe and healthy sex & relationships. It’s an awkward conversation, but we know it keeps kids healthier and safer in the long run.
- Implement a captcha-like system to make it a little more difficult (and primarily, slower and less stimulating) for kids to quickly access porn sites. Requiring certain somewhat higher level math problems to be solved, for example. This doesn’t rely on giving up sensitive personal info.
Kids won’t simply stop viewing porn if you implement age gates. Kids are smart, they find their way around restrictions all the time. If we can’t reasonably stop them without producing a whole host of other extremely negative consequences, then the best thing we can do is educate them on how to not severely risk their own health.
It’s not perfect, but it’s better than creating massive pools of private data, perverse financial incentives, and pushing people to more fringe sites that do even less to comply with the law.
venusaur@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I understand and agree with what you’re saying. I think people should need licenses to have kids, but that’s a different story.
The conflict that this often boils down to is that the digital world does not emulate the real world. If you want to buy porn in the real world, you need ID, but online anything goes. I love my online anonymity just as much as everybody else, but we’ll eventually need to find some hybrid approach.
We already scan our faces on our phones all the time, or scan our finger on our computer. How about when you want to access a porn site you have to type in a password or do some biometric credential?
I think 50% or more of the resistance of restricting porn is really just that people really love porn and are ashamed of what they view. There’s a whole other social psychology that needs to change in regards to how we view sex and I agree with more education.
Vanth@reddthat.com 10 months ago
you gotta admit that there are psychological effects on avid adult viewers and more on minors
Citation needed when we’re talking about implementing laws and opening up lawsuits suing for $75k+. Multiple robust peer-reviewed citations needed. Preferably not funded by a Catholic church group.
Also it’s a leap to say top-down privacy invading laws are the way the state or federal government should handle it instead of the concerned parent monitoring computer usage. There’s so many free and subscription based parental control tools out there. Comprehensive sex education would be a potential alternate way for the state to support parents and teens to educate them on porn consumption and safe internet usage.
FYI, NCOSE, the group joining (likely funding) the lawsuit, is against comprehensive sex education.
venusaur@lemmy.world 10 months ago
You’re talking about a few separate things here.
- I never said this is how it should be implemented. I just said stricter guardrails on porn would do some good.
- evidence is needed when creating laws. Yes
- when a law is already in effect, breaking the law does not require evidence to prove the law should exist. It requires evidence that the law was broken.
breecher@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Even if you love porn and grew up exposed to it as a kid, you gotta admit that there are psychological effects on avid adult viewers and more on minors.
No you don’t. That is right wing propaganda completely unfounded by science. That porn addiction nonsense so many Americans babble about is a product of that propaganda, and doesn’t actually exist.
venusaur@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Wow. You don’t think porn addiction exists? Said like a true porn addict.
magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
Not enough to warrant uploads of your fucking license.
Also I really think its kind of goofy so many people are upset about porn when kids are exposed to violence in the media all the time.
Not that I think violent video games are the devil, my first memory of a game was GTA III lol, but I think seeing violence is probably worse than seeing sex.
At least if you take the American Puritan mindset out of it.
venusaur@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m just saying there’s something good in restriction, not the way in which it’s being implemented. I think games like GTA are bad too.
Parental controls are only effective if all parents control. Should alcohol and guns have no restrictions and be up to parents to control? Exactly.
SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
seeing violence is probably worse than seeing sex
Yes, I mean, one is (ideally) about two (or more) people enjoying time they have together in an intimate way, the other is about hurting another maliciously. I certainly prefer one of these things to be more prominent than the other
There is a discussion to be had about stuff like objectification and porn that doesn’t depict people like, consenting, and such, but at least in ideal I’d much rather have media that focuses on pleasure and love than hate and suffering
KelvarIW@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
I was sex-negative until recent years due to Catholic conditioning mixing with unlabeled asexuality. Seeing the rising movements against porngraphy has driven me to veer strongly sex-positive, especially after the 2024 USAmerican election.
An “anti-pornography” movement is incredibly dangerous because it can leverage that label to steamroll through anything “for the children” and ward off all but the strongest and loudest criticism. It’s a lot like “Mothers Against Drunk Driving”. Every Politician fears being the lone dissenter on a “for the children” bill; No judge wants to seen as soft on “children accessing porn”.
Porn may be “transforming how people relate to sex and themselves”. The anti-porn movement is working to rip away digital privacy, trying to destroy LGBTQIA+ lives, and will squash free artistic expression. Think of any work of art that ever includes nudity, or ever depicts sex - through text, imagery or video. Now imagine defending its “artistic value” to an armed soldier who stormed in your house, or being badgered by a prosecutor in front of a judge and panel of 12.
“Anti-porn” or “Anti-kids accessing porn” legislation are the legislative equivalent of setting off a firecracker in your mouth to stop a toothache. I remain baffled every time I see support for this from “progressive” online spaces and voices, especially considering that we are living under the Republican regime, Right Now.
venusaur@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I understand your point of view. These conservative law-makers are hiding their true intentions, but you’re only allowing yourself to think about porn restriction in the lens of current day right-wing politicians. The intent to put more restrictions on porn is not a one way street.
Your analogy to banning artistic freedom is like saying putting restrictions on alcohol is a slippery slope that’s going to eventually have you explaining to a soldier why you have kombucha.
There are so many variations of porn. Some porn is dangerous to be consumed by children and even adults, especially when consumed compulsively through addiction. Maybe not dangerous to straight cis men, but dangerous to almost the entire half of society. I believe that is why it’s so hard to put any restrictions on porn. Straight cis men are clutching onto their undiagnosed porn addictions as hard as they can and using right wing laws to make hasty generalizations about porn restriction leading to the Islamic Revolution.
Also, congrats. Happy safe and healthy jerking.
echodot@feddit.uk 10 months ago
I remain baffled every time I see support for this from “progressive” online spaces and voices
It’s just people not using their brains, everything is just viewed at its surface level with no deeper analysis ever conducted. They are the sort of idiots that think that Starship Troopers is profascism.
hansolo@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Not sure why you’re getting down voted. Porn can absolutely become a behavioral addiction.
I used to work at a place where we had a lobby guard that watched porn on his phone all day (sound off). Not sitting there trying to jerk it, it was a compulsion. He would just be watching it while talking to other people, standing by the door…it was weird. He eventually got fired because he genuinely couldn’t not watch porn.
That being said, I’m a huge privacy advocate, and while there are actually ways to anonymously be on a website and verify age, that’s not how anyone is doing it. Things like signing up for an account on a site and scanning your ID are just abysmally stupid. There’s a zero percent chance that this system as is doesnt lead to data theft and possibly even extortion.
venusaur@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I totally agree. Everybody is misinterpreting what I’m saying into being an advocate for the ways they’re implementing the restrictions. They need a punching bag. I get it. I’ll be it.
But some people here don’t want to admit porn addiction exists. That’s a sign that it is a problem.
Vanth@reddthat.com 10 months ago
Sounds like a better state-backed initiative would be to make mental health services available to this dude and to anyone else dealing with addiction issues. Especially since I assume this door guard was older than 18 and age verification, no matter how private, would have done nothing to stop his access to porn.
ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
I’d advocate for us to update our ID systems to be able to verify age without the risk of data theft or extortion, but that’s not really relevant to this conversation, just kinda talking to the void
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
That being said, I’m a huge privacy advocate, and while there are actually ways to anonymously be on a website and verify age
How would that work? I’m not well-researched on this particular topic, so I’m curious how that would work.
tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I have never heard of most of these and I’m a decent degenerate.
joel_feila@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I have only heard of one of those ans im a furry. Im a professional degenerate
Lembot_0002@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Never stop to discover new things.
JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 10 months ago
You mean he wasn’t born on January 1st 1970?
chellomere@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Ah yeah, that’s what sex on the first date means
Archangel1313@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I feel bad for her kid. Everyone is going to hate him for this.
roserose56@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
beverly goldberg from the Goldberg’s comes into my mind lol
tal@lemmy.today 10 months ago
For a brief shining moment, it seemed like adroit use of state-level legislation in Kansas might manage to blue-ball much of America by leveraging access to its market of 3 million.
pepperdine-graphic.com/addiction-risk-thrive-in-s…
In 2011, Piccirillo began traveling from Chicago, Illinois to Orange County, California to act in a number of pornographic films. Pornography production is illegal in Illinois, as it is in 48 of the 50 United States.
The pornography industry “by and large lives here in Southern California,” said Ged Kenslea, the senior director of communication for the AIDS Healthcare Foundation. This is for a number of reasons, but legality and location are important factors.
“There are only two states in the union where adult film production is legal,” Kenslea said. “Everywhere else it would be considered participating in an illegal act of prostitution. California and the state of New Hampshire both have state supreme court rulings that codify adult film production as a legitimate business.”
That was until the degenerate California legislature, intertwined in obscene embrace with its filthy industry, and having a market of 40 million, passed its own legislation disallowing a pornography site conducting business in its jurisdiction from having an age gate. Now the outcome was written by economic imperatives: there was to be a Kansas-conformant site and a California-conformant site of each pornography website. Anyone purchasing a commercial subscription was directed to the Kansas-conformant site if they wished to purchase service in Kansas. The age-gate-free California-conformant site did not have age gates, and did not accept advertising specifically targeting Kansas residents, keeping itself from being subject to Kansas jurisdiction.
False@lemmy.world 10 months ago
“Hello maam, your son clicked the prompt stating he wasn’t in Kansas. Our service is not offered in that state. Goodbye.”
Vanth@reddthat.com 10 months ago
Jeebus, I need backup plans for Friday nights.
Page 8 & 9 of the court filing (not the article):
Through this time, Q.R. was able to access chaturbate.com on thirty different instances: […] seven instances on August 30, 2024 […]
Bruh, make sure to hydrate.
Page 13:
Plaintiff prays for judgment against Defendants in an amount in excess of $75,000.00 for:
a. actual damages resulting from Q.R.’s access to material that is harmful to minors, including but not limited to past medical expenses, future medical expenses, past and future lost services and disability, past and future pain, suffering, and disability […]
Page 15, looking for more details on alleged “disfigurement”:
As a direct and proximate result of Defendants’ negligence, Plaintiff has suffered and will continue in the future to suffer the following damages: a. Pain, suffering, disability, disfigurement, and mental anguish […]
It goes on to talk about pornography causing a shift in perspective on sex and possibly leading to addiction. Not finding anything specific on the alleged “disfigurement”.
I’m left to assume poor Q.R. will have to deal the rest of his life with the friction burns caused by jerkin’ it 7+ times on August 30, 2024.
His mom also demanded a jury trial, so Q.R. can rest in easy knowing 12 strangers will hear about his friction burns and give it the serious attention due.
anonymous111@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Good write up, thanks!
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 10 months ago
Page 13, absolutely fascinating to me that “prays for judgement” is stated
It’s not a “prayer” in the religious sense.
“Prayer” in a court filing is what the plaintiff asks the court to do to resolve the case.
Vanth@reddthat.com 10 months ago
Ty! TIL. I’ve probably seen it many times before, but it only jumped out at me this time given the Olathe, KS setting and strong fundie Christian vibes.
echodot@feddit.uk 10 months ago
Surely you cannot sue someone for future injuries where the future injuries are entirely unevidenced. There would have to be some kind of medical assessment that said that this kid is going to suffer ongoing injuries and I can’t imagine they have such an assessment.
Maybe the counter argument should be that this kid’s mom should attempt to get him on disability payments, and only if he’s able to get on that, will they accept liability. There is zero chance of that happening.
Vanth@reddthat.com 10 months ago
Agreed. As a lawyer friend once told me, “you can sue someone for damn near anything. It doesn’t mean you’ll win”.
I imagine the “disability and disfigurement” will get sussed out at some point and either backed up w some sort of evidence, or taked out from the rest of the complaint.
nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
This was so hilariously stated - and your comment is quite thought-provoking.
I can’t imagine how this poor teenager will think of his mother over time.
echodot@feddit.uk 10 months ago
Bet that kid is counting the days until he’s legally an adult and can get away from her.
Supervisor194@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I can’t imagine how this poor teenager will think of his mother over time.
Not well, this much is certain.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 10 months ago
As a direct and proximate result of Defendants’ negligence, Plaintiff has suffered and will continue in the future to suffer the following damages: a. Pain, suffering, disability, disfigurement, and mental anguish […]
More likely a direct result of his mom being a fucking psycho.
reddig33@lemmy.world 10 months ago
“Mom” isn’t doing this unless she’s uber rich. Someone is bankrolling her to try to set precedent.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Anti-masturbation shaming and lawfare and the idea that you can blame all your problems on it is a mainstay of the religious right playbook.
They then hold the forever frustrated subject in a mental shame prison they can never escape but above which they can self righteously judge everyone else and feel they know the real reason why everything is messed up. A similar self sealing logic as the conspirationnists.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Mom is joined in her lawsuit by the National Center on Sexual Exploitation (NCOSE).
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 10 months ago
Its current president is Marcel Van der Watt.
That makes so much sense.
echodot@feddit.uk 10 months ago
The group has also campaigned against sex trafficking, same-sex marriage, sex shops and sex toys
So they just did a control + f for “sex” and then are against any of the results. Are they seriously suggesting that there are people out there who are all for sex trafficking, and would vote in favour of it? They sound like lovely people.
intheformbelow@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m pretty sure NCOSE is a cover for a pedo ring. They probably frequented Epstein’s parties.
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Operation Yorkville
I have found my new masturbation euphemism.
Vanth@reddthat.com 10 months ago
Pretty sure those NCOSE assholes are the ones who said school shootings and other mass murders are because of moral decline due to gay people.
lennee@lemm.ee 10 months ago
ok boomer
GuyFawkes@midwest.social 10 months ago
Man fuck that bitch!
Geetnerd@lemmy.world 10 months ago
[deleted]nullPointer@programming.dev 10 months ago
…sears catalog
Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
“Q.R., using his mother’s old laptop, had unfettered access to the internet and began searching for hardcore pornography,” says the court. His mom claims this led to “pain, suffering, disability, disfigurement, and mental anguish; psychological injury; past and future love of enjoyment and pleasure of living.”
It’s not the internet making your son feel those things, it’s you.
Vespair@lemm.ee 10 months ago
It’s not even real. It’s a fabricated story to push an agenda of a special interest group.
obinice@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Damn, he’s Disabled and Disfigured now?
…What was he doing?
Bristingr@lemm.ee 10 months ago
He broke both his arms. He’ll need his mom for the jerking now.
HakunaHafada@lemm.ee 10 months ago
His mom claims this led to “…; past and future love of enjoyment and pleasure of living.”
So the mom is suing Chaturbate, et al., because she thinks they’re going to cause her son to enjoy life in the future? Is that the mental gymnastics going on here?
dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 10 months ago
I think it’s just poorly written pseudo-legalese, and it’s intended to mean that he will be unable to enjoy life in the future because of the psychological damage that poor is doing to him (unrealistic expectations and mental harm, et cetera).
While porn addiction and unrealistic ideas of beauty and sex are genuinely real things that happen, the way to prevent that is with frank, open discussions about sex and pornography, not trying to prevent your 14 year old from masturbating. I was a 14 year old boy at one point, and lemme tell you, nothing could stop me from masturbating. Nothing. It’s just not going to happen. Kids will find ways to find porn, and if somehow we completely do away with it entirely (again, won’t happen), they’ll find new ways, and they’ll read and write erotica or get into hentai or whatever. This woman is insane, Kansas is insane, and so are all the other states imposing this bullshit
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Disfigurement? Kid’s doing something wrong.
Rakonat@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Mom never supported any kind of sexual education and definitely refuses any kind of healthy and mature conversation with the poor kid.
hemmes@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Don’t knock it till you try it
Chowtime3688@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
Why is the mom not responsible for giving her kid internet access.
Cyclist@lemmy.world 10 months ago
My favorite part:
His mom claims this led to “pain, suffering, disability, disfigurement, and mental anguish; psychological injury; past and future love of enjoyment and pleasure of living.”
madjo@feddit.nl 10 months ago
His first name starts with a Q?! That poor kid, imagine getting your porn preference blasted into the news by your mom and then you also have a Q in your name. Mom should be sued for child abuse
OozingPositron@feddit.cl 10 months ago
I wouldn’t mind being called Quijote.
Fontasia@feddit.nl 10 months ago
Mum wanted to make it everyone else’s problem that she can’t have a frank discussion about sex with her own son so probably been making poor judgements all the way through
pyre@lemmy.world 10 months ago
those are not hid initials; he was named after the code.
Vanth@reddthat.com 10 months ago
I hope those aren’t his real initials because it seems like there’s more than enough information to identify him between the article and complaint filing. Poor kid doesn’t deserve to be dragged into this.
thatsTheCatch@lemmy.nz 10 months ago
Quandale Dingle
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Quiglet Cumberfungle.
Poor bastard.
echodot@feddit.uk 10 months ago
I don’t know why they bother censoring it we all know he’s called Quentin.
barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Could be Quincy.
turtlesareneat@discuss.online 10 months ago
In the old world maybe. Today’s tragedeigh naming means it could be anything. Qristofer. Enjoy.
fatalicus@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Could be Quasimodo.