can the rest of us hate?
Skyblivion fan project lead reacts to Oblivion remake news with "all love and no hate"
Submitted 1 year ago by simple@lemm.ee to games@lemmy.world
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sad_detective_man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Kataelyna@lemmy.world 1 year ago
My computer’s specs are just under the minimum for new games released these days. It will probably be able to handle Skyblivion, but almost definitely not the remake. So that’s the one that has my attention
JakobFel@retrolemmy.com 1 year ago
That’s because they’re classy and understand that the two are totally different projects. Skyblivion is impressive but that doesn’t even remotely mean that an official remaster/remake isn’t worth having.
BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Hasn’t this Bethesda helmed Oblivion remake been in the rumors and ‘eventually’ stage since around 2021-2022? Feel like skyblivion team has had plenty of time to get used to it at this point, but has something changed recently to make the bethesda version more relevant?
CarnivorousCouch@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Leaked pictures / more confirmation. It’s “real” now, or at least a more solid rumor than before.
Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 1 year ago
To play Skyblivion, I believe you need to buy most if not all the Skyrim dlc.
ms_lane@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s for SSE, which has all the DLC.
Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Ah. nevermind me then
stardustsystem@lemmy.world 1 year ago
gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
I see they’re remaking the worst one first
Yeah, that’s right, my hot take is that Oblivion fucking sucks ass and needs a remake, unlike TRS 2, 3, and 5
Allero@lemmy.today 1 year ago
I would certainly love to see Morrowind remake.
Oblivion is at least playable for newer gamers. It’s not a good experience, but it is manageable.
Morrowind, for all its immense benefits, makes everyone who entered the game scene after 2010 scream in terror. I personally never left Balmora, because it’s just a terrible experience by modern standards (graphics, character animation, battle mechanics…), which is a great shame because the game seems to be great otherwise.
TES I and II, while deserving recognition, are very Doom-like in terms of gameplay, and I don’t believe an adequate remake could be made, because they are so different they can’t adequately be turned into a modern experience.
So, I guess for me all hopes are for Skywind, so I could finally walk the streets of Vivec without the need to fork my eyes.
gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Oblivion is far less playable for new players, y’all just have nostalgia blinders / mods in mind
The levelling system breaks Oblivion, violently. Nothing that awful is in Morrowind, even the “I can’t hit anything with a dagger because I’m too stupid to read” doesn’t come close
erytau@programming.dev 1 year ago
I’d love to see anything Morrowind‑related from Bethesda. Anything at all. The province of Morrowind, with its weird culture, architecture, and landscapes, is always quite an experience. To me, it’s the most interesting setting in the whole TES series
HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 1 year ago
if I didn’t have to mod the fuck out of oblivion to make it playable without a spreadsheet, i’d be very mad at you.
hisao@ani.social 1 year ago
Good response. A bit offtopic but:
Earlier this month our Jim called upon Bethesda to remake Morrowind rather than Oblivion. “You cowards,” Jim wrote, calling Morrowind a “special game, where a beautifully unique fantasy setting is locked away behind technology and interface design that has aged particularly badly”.
I prefer Morrowind’s UI to Skyrim’s, even with SkyUI mod:
- It’s more fun to have individual item icons than just text or generic icon just for item type
- Those classic brass borders are beautiful
- Choosing one of multiple reply options work more reliable in Morrowind, in Skyrim when playing on PC you often click one option and it still picks the wrong one because you didn’t scroll enough
Overall, this whole system was obviously designed for consoles and it doesn’t really work well on PC even with mods. I don’t really remember Oblivion’s interface, but the one in Morrowind’s is something that I think definitely needs less “fixing” than Skyrim’s for example. And I don’t think it aged bad at all. Also hotkey system was great, I really miss it in Skyrim, potions are way less fun when you need to go through a bunch of menus every time you want to drink one.
muzzle@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Hopefully the skyblivion team will move en masse to skywind!
duchess@feddit.org 1 year ago
I like Morrowind’s interface better, too, with the optional window managing and selecting dialogue options from within text. But the icon-only inventory is atrocious. I have to hover every single icon to know what it is. I hope OpenMW will spawn a mod or something that will offer an alternative.
e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
dan1101@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Yeah, it’s all cool until Bethesda or their owners issue a takedown.
callouscomic@lemm.ee 1 year ago
The way skyblivion has been implemented avoids all this. They have made it very clear they are not in any way using original assets or providing the game. They are mods that utilize both Skyrim and Oblivion game files and you must have both for it to work. It is modding those game files, not providing them.
Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world 1 year ago
If I recall correctly the team behind Skyblivion was (or still is) in contact with Bethesda throughout the development and had no problems with the latter in regards their work. Heck, Bethesda itself posted about the mod on their site in 2023.
They’ve been aware of Skyblivion for years and there’s no indication they’re interested in killing it.
lath@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Maybe they aren’t, but what about the company that is doing the remake? They might argue it will hamper their ability to meet estimated sales and overall profit.
Enzy@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Bethesda is pretty open about their support in modding.
Carmakazi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That goodwill can change in an instant, especially if they are releasing a competing product, and especially if the legal team gets in the loop rather than the development staff.
Yermaw@lemm.ee 1 year ago
They’re right on the money. We’re getting double the oblivion!
FatTony@lemmy.world 1 year ago
tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Skyblivion >>> remake
setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m over here supporting Tamriel Rebuilt myself.
tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Skywind, skyblivion, Obwind. Idk, idc I’m all in.
ms_lane@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’ll wait the eternity for Oblivion support on OpenMW.
benni@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Every time I see a Luigi Saint pfp, it’s a based take.
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Gosh I hope but Bethesda’s Radiant AI in Oblivion made for some real weird and unique NPC interactions. It gave that game its charm, IMO. Skyrims is different and just porting the game to Skyrim’s Creation Engine might lose some of that weird charm.
AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 1 year ago
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simple@lemm.ee 1 year ago
We haven’t even seen the remake yet.
misterdoctor@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Skyblivion is developed from a place of love, the official remaster is developed from a place of “money please”
Coelacanth@feddit.nu 1 year ago
I’m sure the remake will release with the same level of QA and polish that the original Oblivion shipped with. That renowned Bethesda standard of quality.
Kaboom@reddthat.com 1 year ago
It’s Bethesda, there’s not a lot of goodwill with them
Gnugit@aussie.zone 1 year ago
Bethesda?
FatTony@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Two cakes.