Stalin and Mao would like to have a chat with your if you think this is true.
Think about it
Submitted 5 weeks ago by Mickey7@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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Randomgal@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Railcar8095@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Tanked to dead, sent to concentration camps without due process… Sure.
But not stoned!
Halosheep@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
TIL: you can only kill someone by throwing a rock if you are religious. Do not attempt otherwise, it will not work.
toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
also: there has never been a single person in history who followed the crowd even though they secretly didn’t believe in a god.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’m an atheist, and there are plenty of people I would stone to death if given the chance.
So if the number really is zero, it’s probably due to a lack of opportunity.
sus@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
stoning is a particular method of public execution, not just any death caused by thrown rocks
GarbageReceptacle@lemmynsfw.com 5 weeks ago
I don’t know about that dude, I’ve been given some pretty strong shit before. Definitely felt like I was dying.
Bonus@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Objection@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Low effort, provocative, sorta correct but kinda not: the perfect formula to get some real low-level, unproductive flame wars going. Excellent shitpost.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
May not be stonings, but you’ve got the French Revolution, Stalin’s purge during the Soviet Union and Cultural Revolution - all mass executions caused by Atheist states
accideath@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Yea. Humans never needed an excuse for violence.
Or rather, we always found an excuse, religion is merely one of them.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
Even then, most of the time Religion was used as a justification for the actual intent which was usually some form of colonial subjugation. “We’re spreading the Gospel” wasn’t the actual intent, moreso just what you told people at home questioning the ethics of you conquering faraway lands
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
I’m not so sure of that Christian version of “no true Scotsman”, but it’s true that religion is typically just a tool used by people with power to direct the people to violence.
But man is it an effective tool for that purpose.Flax_vert@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
“No true Scotsman” isn’t just a thing you can scream at everything.
The No True Scotsman tale is as follows:
Person A: “No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.” Person B: “But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman and he puts sugar on his porridge.” Person A: “But no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.”
I don’t know about you, but having sugar on your porridge isn’t a large scale distinction as okay-ing the mass murder of an ethnic group.
A more accurate example within Christianity will be:
Person A: “No Christian says swear words” Person B: “But my uncle Angus is a Christian and he swears sometimes” Person A: “But no true Christian says swear words”
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 weeks ago
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
Leadership lacked spiritual strength because of serious Biblical ignorance and unbelief.
Yeah, it’s reinforcing my point. That’s why I specified “bible-believing”. Just identifying as a Christian because it’s your culture isn’t the same as being an actual believer.
And before you pull out a “no true scotsman”, that argument is moot. It’s like saying “vegans don’t eat meat”, then someone else says “xyz is a vegan and eats meat”. It’s a valid objection to say that somebody isn’t actually something, unlike the “no true scotsman” where ethnicity and nationality are being debated over something trivial like sugar on porridge. You need to hold actual Christian beliefs to be a true Christian.
gmtom@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This is not a shitpost, merely a shit post.
lugal@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
Because they use other weapons?
Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
That’s not true. Lots of drugs can kill you. Don’t know if they all count as ‘stoned’ though
Lemminary@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Death by weed? Where?? 👀
emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
Just walk around downtown asking for drugs. If you dont find any and the drugs don’t kill you, someone probably will eventually.
stepan@lemmy.cafe 5 weeks ago
A fact check of this claim would be interesting.
paultimate14@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Nah we just don’t write fun stories about it when it happens.
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
Stalin was an atheist and he was responsible for killing at least 6 million people.
WhatSay@slrpnk.net 5 weeks ago
Yeah, but not with stones 🪨
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
Important distinction
riskable@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
I believe the lesson here is that marijuana just isn’t toxic enough to kill anyone.
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
Is marijuana atheist? I mean, it has Mary in the name. Also, Rastafarians consider it a holy plant and use it for sacramental purposes.
frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Killing Nazis is good
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
Not sure how to break this to you, but he killed far more of his own people than Nazis.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Not directly. The conman Lysenko, originator of Lysenkoism was. Stalin didn’t aim intentionally to create mass starvation in Soviet Russia. Nor did Mao in Chin, these were issues of understanding science which we tale for granted today but weren’t well understood at the time.
Wikipedia:
Before the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the archival revelations, some historians estimated that the numbers killed by Stalin’s regime were 20 million or higher.[5][6][7] After the Soviet Union dissolved, evidence from the Soviet archives was declassified and researchers were allowed to study it. This contained official records of 799,455 executions (1921–1953),[8][9][10][11][12] around 1.5 to 1.7 million deaths in the Gulag,[13][14][15] some 390,000[16] deaths during the dekulakization forced resettlement, and up to 400,000 deaths of persons deported during the 1940s,[17] with a total of about 3.3 million officially recorded victims in these categories.[18] According to historian Stephen Wheatcroft, approximately 1 million of these deaths were “purposive” while the rest happened through neglect and irresponsibility.[2] The deaths of at least 5.5 to 6.5 million[19] persons in the Soviet famine of 1932–1933 are sometimes included with the victims of the Stalin era.[2][20]
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
So we’re just going to ignore the ~800k executions and the ~1.5M gulag deaths?
Diddlydee@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
But it is shit, which is kind of the point. Shitposts are usually poor-quality, provocative, or off-topic.
swordfish@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Can a shitpost be off-topic on a shitpost community?
Sanctus@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Humans climbed to the top of the food chain by throwing rocks and that was before gods. Everything was stoned to death by atheists in the day.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 weeks ago
I dunno. There have been some pretty annoying people throughout history. Might be more accurate to say “for not being an atheist.”
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
Cultural Revolution…
gargolito@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Not for lack of wanting to.
voodooattack@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Who’s to says pre-historic humans never did?
MasterNerd@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
You wouldn’t say that if you knew what I did in '99
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
…yet.
frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
This isn’t even a good shitpost
toadjones79@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
It’s not even true. Like not even close. The Chinese liberation army forcing Tibetan children to murder their parents to “liberate” them from “religious oppression” is one example.
Objection@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Gonna need a source on that one, chief.
frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Where did you hear that had happened