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Microsoft is a spineless removed.
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Submitted 1 year ago by ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 1 year ago
shani66@ani.social 1 year ago
Removed? What could the comment possibly say in this context that would warrant removal?
God, .ml manages to be the worst parts of both shitlib civility bullshit and tankie bullshit.
KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Why is it that when I see removed, it’s always from lemmy.ml, is that the only instance with the filter enabled
Soggy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s the biggest one still federated with .world with that filter.
DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz 1 year ago
What’s Edge?
kava@lemmy.world 1 year ago
a chromium skin
teamevil@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The browser you use to download Firefox
woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The browser you use to download Firefox
Huh? Just type
winget install Mozilla.Firefoxinto PowerShell / cmd.
foobarbaz@lemm.ee 1 year ago
They get you really close but stop just before finishing.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 year ago
🥵
JLock17@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The thing you use once to download firefox, and then never again.
Petter1@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Nooo, it is browser on my workplace! How should I work efficiently without uBlock!?!?
Ibaudia@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The new manifest v3 version is actually not that bad, though not nearly as good as normal ublock.
Petter1@lemm.ee 1 year ago
❤️
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 1 year ago
My work insists on using it too. Fuck knows why, maybe it’s a security thing? And my personal laptop is constantly nagging me to use edge - it could be the best browser ever and I would still avoid it just because of the pushiness.
OfficerBribe@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It’s a good Chromium based OS native browser that has integration with your Entra ID account so all your bookmarks / history is automatically synced and users have seamless experience when switching devices. No longer seeing tickets like ″My bookmarks are gone after I reinstalled my PC″ is enough to consider Edge as your company main browser. And the fact that it is part of OS, you do not need to worry about install and patching.
I prefer Firefox, but from Chromium browsers Edge is really good, you cannot expect companies to suggest something like Vivaldi.
LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Less browsing of news articles?
Petter1@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I work in research and development, I have to constantly search the web for stuff
Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Tell IT and your boss how your productivity tanked since edge disabled uBlock.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 year ago
So, unironically, I do plan to request Firefox with uBlock as a reasonable accomodation for my ADHD if I’m not able to use it at a job on the future. Banner ads are genuinely distracting and I have a real disability that makes them worse for me.
Mayoman68@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This might actually reverse firefox’s decline in userbase at least in the business world. Any shop that already has multi-OS management could probably insta-switch to firefox, and i’m sure that MS locked-in places could too given enough of a push by IT.
pHr34kY@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Click on all the ads and install all the malware. That will teach them.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Right, you don’t need extensions, because you don’t need customization, because what you need is what we the corp say you need.
I think Web as it exists is a failed branch of evolution.
A networked (solved) hypertext (solved) document (solved) system - yes. A networked hypertext system with one or two unbelievably complex clients, where only enormous corps have enough resources to change something, - no. One can add steps - E2E encryption, dynamic services, scripts, all not requiring a monolithic piece of nonsense.
BTW, those hating Flash, I hope, do realize that its proper, paradigm-abiding replacement would be a FOSS plugin with similar goal, not what we have.
Hexarei@programming.dev 1 year ago
For flash I think you’re describing Ruffle
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No, Ruffle is an alternative interpreter. I mean an alternative, FOSS, technology.
drthunder@midwest.social 1 year ago
I feel similarly. Javascript was made to add some functionality to documents and now we’re basically running Doom in a word professor. I don’t know what a better system would look like, but I’d draw a line between document-type pages and pages that you want to do more on.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 year ago
people use edge? it downloads itself onto your computer without permission.
Symphonic@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Honestly, it’s pretty easy to dunk on edge. But it’s based on the same chromium browser. They have excellent customer support. I have in the past submitted bug reports and they have followed up. Until now, they had pretty good privacy and options in their settings. With this v2 / v3 situation, I will have to reassess all that.
RickyWars@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I use it on my laptop because it doesn’t nuke my laptop’s battery like all other browsers. So it’s a bit of a shame.
x00z@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It didn’t for me on Linux :^)
DV8@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It integrates very well with your M365 you need at work, and it saves a ton of time when people can use SSO to basically get everything up and running immediately on a new laptop. Including bookmarks and passwords.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 year ago
Firefox also has SSO integration with M365! Last I tested it it was less clean than Microsoft’s but it does exist and work the last time I used it
Blinsane@reddthat.com 1 year ago
O365 never saved anyone any time ever. But it’s the one solution dumb-fuck IT managers know of and think they understand so that’s what everyone’s going with.
Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
At work. Corporate web based software doesn’t always play nice in firefox.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 year ago
yea, our comp uses only chrome or Microsoft outlook. even my old state Uni used outlook.
Xanza@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Perfect time to check out AdGuard Home. Trivial to install locally. Probably took less than 3 minutes to install and get it operating. Hardest part was updating my router config. (Goddamn Google WiFi!)
Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Does not elicit the image of iron.
catloaf@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Amarok? That was my favorite media player way back when
dan@upvote.au 1 year ago
They recently started developing it again, after being silent for a long time. They released Amarok 3.0 in April 2024 which migrated it to Qt5 and KDE Frameworks 5.
Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Just in case you needed another reason not to use Edge.
douglasg14b@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Chrome* or Chromium based browsers*
Toneswirly@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Lol Microsoft really using their browser market share effectively
TypicalHog@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Why would anyone use anything but Brave anyway? Brave will still support manifest v2 shit.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Brave will support it until it becomes inconvenient to do so as the Chromium base keeps moving everywhere onwards.
Regardless, Brave have their own skeletons in the closet… crypto, installing other Brave applications during browser install without consent, injecting their affiliate links when nobody asked, a CEO who donated money to homophobic causes more than once.
TypicalHog@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Fair, I love Brave too much tho. And I don’t care about Manifest V2. So, for me personally its great.
balder1991@lemmy.world 1 year ago
None of these small browsers can make significant changes to the original project. A browser nowadays is a super complex bloated thing that requires too much resources to maintain. If even M$ abandoned their engine to go with Chromium (because it was probably costing them a lot of resources to keep compatibility with the evolving standards, security fixes etc.) what hope is there for small companies? Arguably Apple’s Safari has significant differences compared to Chrome, but we’re talking about Apple…
People thinking this is a solution are gonna get disappointed eventually. For now, Firefox is the only alternative product that has been maintained for decades.
kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
it’s very brave to say something like that here
Engywuck@lemm.ee 1 year ago
True. Most of the negative comments about Chromium here are really obtuse. Looks like people feel the need to gain imaginary internet points by praising a mediocre browser made by a misguided Corp. such as Mozilla.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
I was on Netscape in the 90s, I got on Firefox when it was still Firebird, and I haven’t left once. You’ve been a good friend.
(Though I do like Palemoon a lot since I love the pre Quantum and pre WebExtensions days).
RejZoR@lemmy.ml 1 year ago
I’d direct people to Firefox, but Mozilla is doing some weird shit right now and I just can’t. And the forks are always with some weird limitations or issues. Why does it all have to be shit these days?
PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Fancy firefox-based browser along the lines of Arc?
Worth a look if you’re a web power-user / developer sort of person
Matriks404@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Why is there a sidebar for tabs? That seems wasteful for all the screen space it takes.
gunpachi@lemmings.world 1 year ago
Honestly this has been my daily driver for the past 6 months or so.
I really like it. The aesthetics are really modern, while still maintaining all the things I like about firefox.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 year ago
Firefox based. Interesting. Thanks for sharing. I’mma give this a try.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Zen’s glance feature allows you to view links without actually opening them.
I do not like the wording of this because you are opening it
catloaf@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Yeah, viewing a link without opening it is this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
You just viewed a link without opening it.
_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Nonsense, you’re not opening them! You’re fetching them for viewing. It’s totally different!
bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I was concerned as well, but it’s not Wiki style.
It’s just a fancy skin skin for modal windows. It pops open over 70% of the screen front and center.
Personally. I find tabs more useful, but haven’t fully switched over from Firefox yet so I haven’t looked into disabling it.
Glent@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Works on android?
PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s desktop-only right now and feels like for the foreseeable future. Firefox sync works between Zen and Firefox so you can just run Firefox or one of the Android-specific versions of Firefox that support the generic/vanilla firefox sync.
Theoneand33@lemdro.id 1 year ago
I use love the mod feature
TomMasz@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I had a feeling this would happen. I have to use Google services for a lot of things at work and Edge works fine with them. Firefox usually does okay, but not always. And now Firefox is requiring you to hand over your data to them.
Can any Chromium-based browser refuse to turn on V3 or is it too baked-in without forking the entire project?
bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I imagine so, but the technical burden is at risk of growing over time as the upstream chromium may significantly deviate from or remove some of the functionality.
seven_phone@lemmy.world 1 year ago
A lot of people won’t know but Edge is a browser made by Microsoft that nobody uses and now less than no one will use.
Engywuck@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It’s nice to use a browser which doesn’t depend of extensions to block ads.
singletona@lemmy.world 1 year ago
oh look at that. It’s ‘chromium based browsers are garbage o’clock.’
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 1 year ago
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Did both Edge users complain?
Mwa@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Microsoft Edge is literally Google Chrome button replaced with Microsoft Features/Spyware
DuskyRo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Vivaldi still supports V2 Manifest (including ublock Origin) until July, I believe. Brave too, I think.
Punchshark@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Who fucking uses edge?
Chivera@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Firefox time
Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 year ago
Yeah, if you didn’t see that writing on the wall you need your eyes testing.
No Chrome browser will be maintained to keep using Manifest V2.
Use Firefox.
azalty@jlai.lu 1 year ago
Mozilla sucks as well
We’re truly doomed