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Firefox time
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Submitted 3 months ago by ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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Chivera@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Waldschrat@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Well, Firefox tries really hard to go to shit as well with their new Privacy Policy and their first ever Terms of Service.
XiberKernel@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Genuine question - isn’t their terms basically “if you use these third party services you’re subject to their terms, and also were going to collect some data to see if people actually use this feature or if it’s a waste of time?”
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 months ago
For anybody unaware, their new privacy notice essentially states that if you opt in to using a third party LLM within Firefox, the LLM provider will get the info that you give to the LLM.
intelisense@lemm.ee 3 months ago
I use Firefox for most things, but Google Meet maxes out all my CPUs if I use Firefox. Any kind of screen sharing kills it. Suggestions on how I can get video encoding working greatly appreciated… Intel Xe graphics.
wewbull@feddit.uk 3 months ago
Personally I keep a copy of chromium around just for Google meet. Everything else is on Firefox.
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one [bot] 3 months ago
If I needed ANY version of chrome around I would keep Vivaldi.
Nightwish76@feddit.uk 3 months ago
Using Vivaldi as a second browser, after Firefox.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 months ago
firefox is starting to enshittify, LIBREWOLF, or another might be better.
Punchshark@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Who fucking uses edge?
Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 months ago
90% of people and corporations are either using Edge or Chrome and since there’s essentially no difference between the two they are equally bad. We’re back to a browser mono-culture, just like in the bad old days of Internet Explorer.
Naich@lemmings.world 3 months ago
It’s not that bad yet. FF works on pretty much any site that’s not demonstrating some sort of bleeding edge fuckery. I haven’t seen a “best viewed in Chrome” for a decade or two.
Hopefully this sort of enshittification will drive more people to use other browsers.
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
Yup. Software developer here for a small company. We use a Windows. Chrome for testing applications and edge is just there. We are all in on Microsoft, server is C# .Net, running on azure with teams and outlook and office.
I do use Firefox though but I’m the only one out of 7.
chakan2@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Did you know Wayne Gretzky and his brother hole the record for highest scoring brother duo in the NHL?
That comment reads the same way.
SynonymousStoat@lemmy.world 3 months ago
On the rare occasion I want to stream movies while on my PC at 1080p, because most online movie services will only stream 1080p to Edge. Some times Chrome will be allowed to stream 1080p but it’s pretty hit or miss in my experience. On another note, basically no streaming services will stream movies to you in 4k on a PC, I’ve also found most streaming apps on my phone won’t give me 4k either, you can only really get 4k streaming to a smart TV… it’s pretty ridiculous.
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
Why let the streaming services tell you what you can or can’t watch videos on when you can just pirate everything?
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Edge wasn’t that bad honestly, I prefer it over chrome and use it when I need to test a site on that engine.
Punchshark@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Ive been firefox for a long while now
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 3 months ago
My workplace configures edge and chrome by default, were very office365 integrated and support chrome for some dates specific thing.
Now i am privileged with local admin powers so i have firefox. Still the integrations with edge run deep so i still have to use it lots of times. There are plans for copilot (which i find very dumb personall.
I will however never use chrome (anymore). Google was the second tech giant i dropped after facebook. They cannot redeem themselves for destroying the web (opinion). I rarely use search engines anymore but i rather use bing and bing sucks. (duckduck is also based on bing)
Sorry for the rant, but that was relieving.
BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 3 months ago
At least Bing pays you to use them, so don’t feel bad
thal3s@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
My company has blocked all other web browsers, so lots of us sadly.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 months ago
probably wanted to monitor your every move, because the others one might shield your identity.
kokesh@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Noobs who like to live on the edge
JesusTheCarpenter@feddit.uk 3 months ago
People.
catloaf@lemm.ee 3 months ago
What a bunch of bastards.
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Corps. All of the bells and whistles it has ties into the corps tenant which includes isolation of things like sync’d profiles, seamless sso, favorites, extensions, etc
Since it’s all under the tenant, all of that data is subject to the same privacy and policies the corp and MS agreed to, which makes it easy to work with other companies that have their own client policy requirements.
MS also makes it easy to control and harden all of their products including Edge using policy controls from a single UI.
You can’t do any of this with Firefox without extra effort.
BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 3 months ago
Yeah the level of control Active Directory can have over Edge is unparalleled. The entire industry would move to a more secure browser and can be centrally managed with Active Directory if something existed.
greenshirtdenimjeans@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
I do when shitty devs don’t test in firefox and things are broken.
DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz 3 months ago
What’s Edge?
teamevil@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The browser you use to download Firefox
woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The browser you use to download Firefox
Huh? Just type
winget install Mozilla.Firefoxinto PowerShell / cmd.
JLock17@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The thing you use once to download firefox, and then never again.
foobarbaz@lemm.ee 3 months ago
They get you really close but stop just before finishing.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 months ago
🥵
kava@lemmy.world 3 months ago
a chromium skin
DuskyRo@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Kiuyn@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Did they fix the issue of their license partially closed? Or is it still the same
DuskyRo@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Yes, actually, they made the source available again.
Matriks404@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’ve looked it up and apparently there’s a problem where if you open a new window with any amount of tabs and close it last, you will lose all your tabs on the first window. It’s a big no for me, because I already had to restore last opened windows in Firefox many times, and I am pretty sure you previously could just press
CTRL+SHIFT+Tand it did reopen them, although I might misremember things.
Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
catloaf@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Amarok? That was my favorite media player way back when
Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
dan@upvote.au 3 months ago
They recently started developing it again, after being silent for a long time. They released Amarok 3.0 in April 2024 which migrated it to Qt5 and KDE Frameworks 5.
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Does not elicit the image of iron.
PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Fancy firefox-based browser along the lines of Arc?
Worth a look if you’re a web power-user / developer sort of person
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Zen’s glance feature allows you to view links without actually opening them.
I do not like the wording of this because you are opening it
catloaf@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Yeah, viewing a link without opening it is this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
You just viewed a link without opening it.
_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
Nonsense, you’re not opening them! You’re fetching them for viewing. It’s totally different!
bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
I was concerned as well, but it’s not Wiki style.
It’s just a fancy skin skin for modal windows. It pops open over 70% of the screen front and center.
Personally. I find tabs more useful, but haven’t fully switched over from Firefox yet so I haven’t looked into disabling it.
gunpachi@lemmings.world 3 months ago
Honestly this has been my daily driver for the past 6 months or so.
I really like it. The aesthetics are really modern, while still maintaining all the things I like about firefox.
Theoneand33@lemdro.id 3 months ago
I use love the mod feature
Matriks404@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Why is there a sidebar for tabs? That seems wasteful for all the screen space it takes.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 3 months ago
Firefox based. Interesting. Thanks for sharing. I’mma give this a try.
Glent@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Works on android?
PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world 3 months ago
It’s desktop-only right now and feels like for the foreseeable future. Firefox sync works between Zen and Firefox so you can just run Firefox or one of the Android-specific versions of Firefox that support the generic/vanilla firefox sync.
Petter1@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Nooo, it is browser on my workplace! How should I work efficiently without uBlock!?!?
Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 months ago
people use edge? it downloads itself onto your computer without permission.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Right, you don’t need extensions, because you don’t need customization, because what you need is what we the corp say you need.
I think Web as it exists is a failed branch of evolution.
A networked (solved) hypertext (solved) document (solved) system - yes. A networked hypertext system with one or two unbelievably complex clients, where only enormous corps have enough resources to change something, - no. One can add steps - E2E encryption, dynamic services, scripts, all not requiring a monolithic piece of nonsense.
BTW, those hating Flash, I hope, do realize that its proper, paradigm-abiding replacement would be a FOSS plugin with similar goal, not what we have.
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Just in case you needed another reason not to use Edge.
Mwa@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Microsoft Edge is literally Google Chrome button replaced with Microsoft Features/Spyware
JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Microsoft is a spineless removed.
Xanza@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Perfect time to check out AdGuard Home. Trivial to install locally. Probably took less than 3 minutes to install and get it operating. Hardest part was updating my router config. (Goddamn Google WiFi!)
Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 months ago
Yeah, if you didn’t see that writing on the wall you need your eyes testing.
No Chrome browser will be maintained to keep using Manifest V2.
Use Firefox.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Vivaldi still supports V2 Manifest (including ublock Origin) until July, I believe. Brave too, I think.
singletona@lemmy.world 3 months ago
oh look at that. It’s ‘chromium based browsers are garbage o’clock.’
Toneswirly@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Lol Microsoft really using their browser market share effectively
TomMasz@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I had a feeling this would happen. I have to use Google services for a lot of things at work and Edge works fine with them. Firefox usually does okay, but not always. And now Firefox is requiring you to hand over your data to them.
Can any Chromium-based browser refuse to turn on V3 or is it too baked-in without forking the entire project?
RejZoR@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
I’d direct people to Firefox, but Mozilla is doing some weird shit right now and I just can’t. And the forks are always with some weird limitations or issues. Why does it all have to be shit these days?
seven_phone@lemmy.world 3 months ago
A lot of people won’t know but Edge is a browser made by Microsoft that nobody uses and now less than no one will use.
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
Did both Edge users complain?
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
I was on Netscape in the 90s, I got on Firefox when it was still Firebird, and I haven’t left once. You’ve been a good friend.
(Though I do like Palemoon a lot since I love the pre Quantum and pre WebExtensions days).
TypicalHog@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Why would anyone use anything but Brave anyway? Brave will still support manifest v2 shit.
Engywuck@lemm.ee 3 months ago
It’s nice to use a browser which doesn’t depend of extensions to block ads.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
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cley_faye@lemmy.world 3 months ago
It’s slowly turning, too. Start looking for something else.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
We need a truly FOSS browser that developed and maintained by the community. Librewolf isn’t it unless it fully forks away from Mozilla. We need a new engine and we just don’t have one yet.
MisterFrog@lemmy.world 3 months ago
It’s almost like this not-for-profit, for-profit subsidiary thing is a cancer (or at least, my selection bias of late thinks so).
Can someone ELI5 why a foundation can’t develop these products directly, with a for-profit subsidiary? Is there something forbidden about rasing revenue for a not-for-profit via product sales? Would this even fix anything?
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Sam Reichfox
LarsIsCool@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The only way to learn, is by playing
Engywuck@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Not for much more, it seems.
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one [bot] 3 months ago
Lil arms!