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AI-powered vending machines that sell bullets could be hacked, says a cybersecurity expert

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Submitted ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-powered-ammo-vending-machines-could-be-hacked-expert-us-2024-7

Oh my. bioshock.fandom.com/…/Vending_Machines_(Rapture)

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  • GrymEdm@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Bullet vending machines? Just in case you find yourself running out of bullets while out and about in the city?

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    • einkorn@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      'murica, fuck yeah!

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    • Mr_Blott@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      An entire country of fucking cowards 😂

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      • anomnom@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Hey hey hey, half cowards.

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    • jewbacca117@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      For when you run out of 5.56 before third period biology

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      • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Your going to have to disect the lab rat live, fresh from the dumpster.

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    • lemmyng@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The world would be better off if certain people ate a bullet. But those people usually are not in the vending machine target demographic.

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    • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The morning riot used 2 more mags than usual.

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    • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Same reason as any other vending machine, impulse buys.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ammo should never be an impulse buy, and I say this as a strong proponent of the 2A.

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  • hannesh93@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why does a vending machine even have AI in the first place?

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    • taladar@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Because it is currently the most advanced way to pretend you are doing age verification when really you aren’t that is available on the market.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        How about this: scan your state issued ID. My license has a barcode, and bars already scan it, so it’s a solved problem, no AI needed. The process should essentially be:

        1. scan license
        2. snap picture of face
        3. send to police for lookup - needed to verify you’re not a felon or whatever, there’s more to it than just age verification
        4. accept or reject transaction

        The only AI that needs to exist would be at the local precinct, and used for related ID verification checks.

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    • Starbuck@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Things like this are literally just so that there is a test case to make it up to the Supreme Court. They do something ridiculous that obviously violates the intent of the law but mostly stays inside the letter of the law, in hopes that the Supreme Court will take it up and overturn the law. So, yes, the fact that the vending machine can technically sell bullets to minors is a feature, not a bug. Why is their endgame getting rid of age restrictions for firearms and ammunition? You’d have to ask the death cult themselves about that one.

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    • jagged_circle@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Because AI is racist and the US never developed gun laws until a bunch of black folks in California and decided to use their rights

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  • Cris_Color@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why in the everliving fuck is that a thing anyone needed? Just go to a gun store and show your ID if needed for fucks sake

    We don’t need a new way to buy bullets, we certainly don’t need a vending machine for them, and if we’re getting one anyway it certainly doesn’t need AI, who the fuck dreamt this up and thought it was a good idea??

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    • CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Amoral greedy hateful conservatives.

      But I repeat myself.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      As a big proponent of the 2A and generally in favor of less restrictions, I also don’t see the point. Here are the times I’d need ammo:

      • at the range - just call someone over and they’ll deliver it to you
      • before going hunting - I’m heading to the hunting store anyway, I’ll just pick some up there
      • a trip to BLM land to go shooting - pull from stash and refresh it w/ an online order
      • when picking up a new gun - gun stores tend to have ammo

      Vending machines tend to be in more urban environments, and if I’m there, I either already have ammo (if I’m carrying concealed) or I’m not carrying a firearm anyway. In the rare situation where I’m carrying a firearm w/o ammo (why?), I’m not going to stop and load my gun in public, so why go to the vending machine?

      I don’t see any good reason for this to exist. Either order online or pick up along w/ other stuff at the gun store. A vending machine is going to be out of whatever caliber I want anyway and they’ll probably get restocked rarely, so even a mild convenience would likely end up being an inconvenience. So even if it was safe, it’s not solving any problems.

      As someone w/ young kids, I definitely don’t want to make access to ammo easier for casual gun owners. Gun enthusiasts already know where to get ammo, this is just going to be a target for bored kids.

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      • USSEthernet@startrek.website ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        BLM land?

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    • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Who cares? You can buy ammo in plenty of places and most of us buy it online for the deep discount.

      The AI is for age verification or this idea would never fly.

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  • Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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    • Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “I’ve got bullets with your name on them! Wait that didn’t come out right…”

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    • PlanterTree@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Is this a borderlands 3 screenshot? Or 2?

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      • Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I think it’s from the Torge DLC in BL2

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  • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ok, how about no bullet vending machines because that’s obviously dystopian and if you desperately need bullets and can’t wait to get to a gun shop you have bigger issues

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    • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Can’t wait for single use, plastic, vending machine guns ala Cyberpunk 2077.

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      • jagged_circle@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Does it print ir inject them itself to replenish its own stock?

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      • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Will they market them to kids like cigarettes?

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    • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Surge pricing.

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  • Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hey everyone, lockpickinglawer here. Today I’m going to show you how you can open one ammo vending machine with another ammo vending machine.

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    • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Alternate #1: your pickup truck’s steel bumper.

      Alternate #2: your cousins Oxy-acc torch

      Alternate #3: bricks. Lots of bricks.

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    • Astronauticaldb@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s more McNally’s style tbh

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  • brsrklf@jlai.lu ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Actual ammo vending machines. That can be tampered with. Great.

    Could we not Torment Nexus the rest of Bioshock, please?

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    • a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      From what i can see here, the USA are currently socially regressing from Bioshock 1 to Bioshock Infinite.

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  • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    America is the stupidest damn place that has ever existed

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    • HawlSera@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      To be fair, England also exists

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      • Zip2@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        At least we didn’t even consider bullet vending machines or drive through liquor stores.

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      • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        England still claims 10% of American stupidity as debt service.

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  • Free_Opinions@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Any vending machine can be hacked. We used to get free sodas from one twenty years ago.

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  • ZeffSyde@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Won’t anyone think of the gun owners that have social anxiety that can’t bear to look the guy at the gun shop in the eye and don’t have the time to wait for an online order because IVE GOT TO DO IT TONIGHT IF I DON’T DO IT TONIGHT ITS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN

    /s

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  • todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The people who use the machine are undoubtedly the same people terrified of a national gun owner registry. A machine that scans your whole face from multiple angles every time you buy ammo…

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    • jagged_circle@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Neo Libertarians. As long as its a private company with all their biometrics, they’re fine with it

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  • Lojcs@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Does OSM have any bullet vending machines?

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    • Cris_Color@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thats genuinely amazing. The OSM community doesn’t care if what you built is dumb, they just care if it’s on the map

      Props to them

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nice, that first one is right next to a bank too. So if you show up to rob the place, but forgot your ammo, then you’re set!

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  • HawlSera@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s like society wants to be all the fucking worst parts of Mega Man Battle Network

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  • Blaster_M@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    All you need is a frequency modulator and to send four pulses of a specific amplitude at the right time in sequence, and then all the bullet costs are discounted.

    “¡Muchos gracias, señor!”

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  • credo@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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  • AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Experts find that water is wet.

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  • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A society that wants to be a war zone

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  • MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But voting machines are safe, right? /s

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  • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You mean like… buying ammo online?

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    • taladar@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I guess the local sales organizations couldn’t let online stores have take over the entire dystopian market.

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  • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Remember when RoboCop dispensed bullets to anyone that did not show ID?

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  • jagged_circle@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I agree with Chirs Rock that you shouldn’t worry so much about regulating guns as much as regulating ammunition. This was a terrible idea.

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  • c5e3@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    luckily we have this cybersecurity export to get that info

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  • jagged_circle@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What happens if the building with this vending machine catches fire?

    Or if someone throws a molitov cocktail at it?

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