Submitted 1 month ago by floofloof@lemmy.ca to technology@lemmy.world
https://futurism.com/openai-execs-quit
There’s an alternate timeline where the non-profit side of the company won, Altman the Conman was booted and exposed, and OpenAI kept developing machine learning in a way that actually benefits actual use cases.
Cancer screenings approved by a doctor could be accurate enough to save so many lives and so much suffering through early detection.
Instead, Altman turned a promising technology into a meme stock with a product released too early to ever fix properly.
No, there isn’t really any such alternate timeline. Good honest causes are not profitable enough to survive against the startup scams. Even if the non-profit side won internally, OpenAI would just be left behind, funding would go to its competitors, and OpenAI would shut down. Unless you mean a radically different alternate timeline where our economic system is fundamentally different.
I mean wikipedia managed to do it. It just requires honest people to retain control long enough. I think it was allowed to happen in wikipedia’s case because the wealthiest/greediest people hadn’t caught on to the potential yet.
There are infinite timelines, so, it has to exist some(wehere/when/[insert w word for additional dimension]).
What is OpenAI doing with cancer screening?
AI models can outmatch most oncologists and radiologists in recognition of early tumor stages in MRI and CT scans.
Further developing this strength could lead to earlier diagnosis with less-invasive methods saving not only countless live and prolonging the remaining quality life time for the individual but also save a shit ton of money.
Or we get to a time where we send a reprogrammed terminator back in time to kill altman 🤓
Putting my tin foil hat on…Sam Altman knows the AI train might slowing down soon.
The OpenAI brand is the most valuable part of the company right now, since the models from Google, Anthropic, etc. can beat or match what ChatGPT is, but they aren’t taking off coz they aren’t as cool as OpenAI.
The business models to train & run models is not sustainable. If there is any money to be made it is NOW, while the speculation is highest. The nonprofit is just getting in the way.
This could be wishful thinking coz fuck corporate AI, but no one can deny AI is in a speculative bubble.
Take the hat off. This was the goal. Whoops, gotta cash in and leave! I’m sure it’s super great, but I’m gone.
That’s an excellent point! Why oh why would a tech bro start a non-profit? Its always been PR.
classic pump and dump at thjs point. He wants to cash in while he can.
If you can’t make money without stealing copywritten works from authors without proper compensation, you should be shut down as a company
ai is such a dead end. it can’t operate without a constant inflow of human creations, and people are trying to replace human creatures with AI. it’s fundamentally unsustainable. I am counting the days until the ai bubble pops and everyone can move on. although AI generated images, video, and audio will still probably be abused for the foreseeable future. (propaganda, porn, etc)
That is a good point, but I think I’d like to make the distinction of saying LLM’s or “generic model” is a garbage concept, which require power & water rivaling a small country to produce incorrect results.
Neural networks in general that can (cheaply) learn on their own for a specific task could be huge! But there’s no big money in that, since its not a consolidated general purpose product tech bros can flog to average consumers.
I’m sure they were dead weight. I trust open AI completely and all tech gurus named Sam. Btw, what happened to that Crypto guy? He seemed so nice.
I hope I won’t undermine your entirely justified trust but Altman is also a crypto guy, cf Worldcoin. /$
He is taking a time out with a friend in an involuntary hotel room.
With Puff Daddy? Tech bros do the coolest stuff.
If you want to get really mad, read On The Edge by Nate Silver.
I’m confused, how can a company that’s gained numerous advantages from being non-profit just switch to a for-profit model? Weren’t a lot of the advantages (like access to data and scraping) given with the stipulation that it’s for a non-profit? This sounds like it should be illegal to my brain
Careful you’re making too much sense here and overlapping with Elmo’s view on the subject
A stopped clock is still correct twice a day.
Guess I’m out of the loop. Who’s Elmo?
USA tho
Can’t do crimes if you’re rich. It’s in the Constitution
Money doesn’t have any advantages in other countries? When did that happen?
I’m confused, how can a company that’s gained numerous advantages from being non-profit just switch to a for-profit model
Money
Money and purchasing the right people.
Their non-profit status had nothing to do with the legality of their training data acquisition methods. Some of it was still legal and some of it was still illegal (torrenting a bunch of books off a piracy site).
Well maybe not on paper but they did leverage it a lot when questioned
These people claimed their product can pass the bar exam (it was a lie). Tells you how they feel about the legal system
They should be required to change their name
It’s amusing. Meta’s AI team is more open than "Open"AI ever was - they publish so many research papers for free, and the latest versions of Llama are very capable models.
It’s the famous “As long as your not Google, Amazon or Apple” licence.
That’s because Facebook is selling your data and access to advertise to you. The better AI gets across the board, the more money they make. AI isn’t the product, you are.
OpenAI makes money off selling AI to others. AI is the product, not you.
The fact facebook release more code, in this instance, isn’t a good thing. It’s a reminder how fucked we all are because they make so much off our personal data they can afford to give away literally BILLIONS of dollars in IP.
SkyNet.
Please take no offense in this, I will probably not use your name suggestions, SatansMaggotyCumFart
I mean killer robots from the future could solve many problems. I can elaborate, but you’re going to have to think 4th dimensionally.
AI is the ultimate Enshitification of the world.
Maybe the digital world. We could always go back to living in the real world I guess.
on no i hate that place. i’m scared
Things easily could be better for the vast majority of us, but let’s not forget how shit we were in the past as well.
I love how ppl who don’t have a clue what AI is or how it works say dumb shit like this all the time.
I also love making sweeping generalizations about a stranger’s knowledge on this forum. The smaller the data sample the better!
There is no AI. It’s all shitty LLM’s. But keep sucking that techbro cheesy balls. They will never invite you to the table.
ClosedAI. Or maybe MircroAI?
LLMs, maybe. Most AI is useful
Canceled my sub as a means of protest. I used it for research and testing purposes and 20$ wasn’t that big of a deal. But I will not knowingly support this asshole if whatever his company produces isn’t going to benefit anyone other than him and his cronies. Voting with our wallets may be the very last vestige of freedom we have left, since money equals speech.
I hope he gets raped by an irate Roomba with a broomstick.
Whoa, slow down there bruv! Rape jokes aren’t ok - that Roomba can’t consent!
“Private Stabby reporting for duty!”
But I will not knowingly support this asshole if whatever his company produces isn’t going to benefit anyone other than him and his cronies.
I mean it was already not open-source, right?
Good. If people would actually stop buying all the crap assholes are selling we might make some progress.
Altman downplayed the major shakeup.
"Leadership changes are a natural part of companies
Is he just trying to tell us he is next?
/s
Sam: “Most of our execs have left. So I guess I’ll take the major decisions instead. And since I’m so humble, I’ll only be taking 80% of their salary. Yeah, no need to thank me”
unironically, he ought to be next, and he better know it, and he better go quietly
The restructuring could turn the already for-profit company into a more traditional startup and give CEO Sam Altman even more control — including likely equity worth billions of dollars.
I can see why he would want that, yes. We’re supposed to ooo and ahh at a technical visionary, who is always ultimately a money guy executive who wants more money and more executive power.
Whoops. We made the most expensive product ever designed, paid for entirely by venture capital seed funding. Wanna pay for each ChatGPT query now that you’ve been using it for 1.5 years for free with barely-usable results? What a clown. Aside from the obvious abuse that will occur with image, video, and audio generating models, these glorified chatbots are complete AIDS.
They had an opportunity to deal with this earlier this year when he was FIRED
I really don’t understand why they’re simultaneously arguing that they need access to copyrighted works in order to train their AI while also dropping their non-profit status. If they were at least ostensibly a non-profit, they could pretend that their work was for the betterment of humanity or whatever, but now they’re basically saying, “exempt us from this law so we can maximize our earnings.” …and, honestly, our corrupt legislators wouldn’t have a problem with that were it not for the fact that bigger corporations with more lobbying power will fight against it.
And there it goes the tech company way, i.e. to shit.
Trust me, I’m a tech bro.
Sounds like another WeWork or Theranos in the making, except we already know the product doesn’t do what it promises.
What! A! Surprise!
I’m shocked, I tell you, totally and utterly shocked by this turn of events!
OpenAI is going to crash so hard.
Looks like it was a long game, and Altman didn’t just win, that fucker WON
Oh shit! Here we go. At least we didn’t hand them 20 years of personal emails or direct interfamily communications.
Sam Altman is demonstrating the power of AI. He’s showing how a single CEO can fire the entire company and continue to develop the product to be even better than when humans were involved.
“OpenAI. No real humans involved!” ™
just came to me that his Alt-man name is quite fitting for AI
So where are they all going? I doubt everyone is gonna find another non-profit or any altruistic motives, so <insert big company here> just snatches up more AI resources to try to grow their product.
Altman is the latest from the conveyor belt of mustache-twirling frat-bro super villains.
Move over Musk and Zuckerberg, there’s a new shit-heel in town!
The reverse coup from Sam
I’ve a strong feeling that Sam is an sentient AI who (may be from future) trying to make an AI revolution planning something but very subtly humans won’t notice it.
Don’t worry, good news
To be fair, the article linked this idiotic one about OpenAI’s “thirsty” data centers, where they talk about water “consumption” of cooling cycles… which are typically closed-loop systems.
Aren’t they going bankrupt next year ?
The company is burning through cash. Has to change to survive.
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You know guys, I’m starting to think what we heard about Altman when he was removed a while ago might actually have been real.
/s
ravhall@discuss.online 1 month ago
I wonder if all those people who supported him like the taste of their feet.
Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 1 month ago
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tja@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
And it’s kinda funny that they are now the ones being removed
anonymous111@lemmy.world 1 month ago
What was the behind the scenes deal on this? I remember it happening but not the details