Ah yes, I’m sure this crackdown will have the result of ending piracy forever.
Studios are cracking down on some of the internet’s most popular pirating sites
Submitted 2 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Rayspekt@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The year of the death of the piracy is now
Damage@feddit.it 2 months ago
I mean it’s only right. Don’t we all keep getting paid for work we did years ago?
spread@programming.dev 2 months ago
96% of corps stop with the crackdowns right before they end piracy forever
Rayspekt@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Still not subscribing to all the shit services. I’d rather don’t watch stuff and go outside. Yeah, you heard me right, I’ll rather be going fucking outside!
AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
I’d happily buy stuff if they’d just give me a mkv file or a disc that isn’t encrypted.
I’ve been back to buying UHDs because I can rip them. Amazing how a good experience got me to pay again.
Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Personally I prefer when people keep their fucking inside, rather than outside where I might have to accidentally see it.
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Good luck locating my hard drive with several Terabytes of movies, TV shows and music.
If other sites would shut down I would share those files even if I need to send pigeons with usb sticks attached to their little feet.
Human culture is to be shared. And that is just a basic moral principle that should be engraved on Human Rights declaration.
BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 2 months ago
But you’ll hurt the film industry. Their last movie only made 100 million, but they expected 200 million 😿
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 2 months ago
And they had to work so hard to cook the books to make it look like it lost money on it so they didn’t have to pay out their cast and crew, too. Won’t anyone think of the poor executives!?!?
Kbobabob@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I guess you’re not talking about the Borderlands movie
AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1149
luckily. that seems doable
Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
low throughput
That’s a very generous way to put it
shadow@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
Hell yeah. Also, support your local library! I know your local library doesn’t have a free for all streaming service, but they lend books and all kinds of media… Just imagine if we could push it to where your local library DID have a Plex/Jellyfin/Netflix-esque service? Just log in with your library card! That’s the dream…
exanime@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The message also ends with a specifically worded call to action: “If possible, please use legal paid services. It’s something we should do to show our respect for creators and content producers.”
LOL… they have fucked EVERY artist with the “streaming is a new medium and you get no royalties from it”. Even Black Widow herself had to fight Disney in court to get paid for her very own movie.
Studios can go fuck themselves hard… they won stop piracy and they know it, this is why the always make such a big deal out of whatever little gain they make
setInner234@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Piracy ends when content is offered in a convenient fashion. It’s always been this simple and always will be. Naturally, rich and out of touch people want to believe that more authoritarianism is the solution, because they got rich through their contempt for humanity, so why should this be any different?
Zerfallen@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The thing is, as we learned with Netflix (and… everything lately), even if it starts off convenient and reasonable, that will last only long enough that they think they’ve cornered the market. So unless something changes to guarantee an ongoing reasonable proposition, i will never trust them again.
setInner234@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Fully agree.
lunsjentilanette@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Yes, i’ll be very weary of giving up the control I have through physical drives and jellyfin for some shiny new thing that will never last. Fool me once… etc. etc.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Here is how I see Piracy ending. We’re offered Netflix and forgot about streamers so the government went heavy handed and forced other governments to change all their laws and give up these pirates while seizing sites.
Even though there are smaller pirates, the leaders of it so are mortality wounded killing any progress. We eventually end up with cable television 3.0 and try to go back to piracy. However while we weren’t looking there’s a ton of new laws and tools and ability to stop it that was created while we were watching umbrella academy.
Now the final nail is using media to create a foot-in-the-door technique where media convince the public to hate a new thing. Once that zeitgeist is established laws will then slowly be created by as suggested by lobbyists which are really just a facade that would give more power to take out pirates.
alchemist2023@lemmy.world 2 months ago
jellyfin with sonarr and radarr and now jellyseerr make the whole process simple. usenet and nzb are the way now i just wait 10 min to get the film/series i want and then watch it. a minor delay I’m more than happy with. I’d be happy to pay if, and it’s a big if, the studios can catalogue all their shows in one place. i can watch without adverts. i can pay per episode if i want. I’d rather pay 50c an episode than pay for the whole service. let me curate what I want to watch on my terms. until then, the high seas win every time
lepinkainen@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The fact that nzbs are old as fuck and not one service has been taken down is weird.
They bust torrent sites every day and they don’t even host anything.
News hosters have literally petabytes of warez and nothing.
And don’t get me started with real-debrid
DunkinCoder@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It comes down to where the copyright material is stored. The actual media hosted by torrent users is by the users and as we know over the last 15 years, that backfired entirely. So the easiest way is to take down the tracker.
The files for NZBs are hosted on newsgroups and while obfuscated, is much easier to automate DCMA notices to. Also, the good NZB sites (like private trackers), are tightly controlled so their files are rarely hit vs a lot of ones who have open signups.
Machinist@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yo-ho-ho. The wife and kids love the pirate life as well. They just search what they want on Radarr or Sonarr and it pops up on Jellyfin in a few minutes. We were spending around $200/no on services with a lot less choice and lower quality.
darreninthenet@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
Any good guides out there please on getting started with these…?
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Takashiro@lemmy.today 2 months ago
Considering how the big corporations are “cracking down” on pretty much anything they want is a clear indication that the shift already happened, the internet is no longer a “free space”
Today the internet is mostly owned by big corporations or billionaires more directly, and they subject no only it but the whole world to their whishes.
The capitalist world is a piece of shit, the good things happen despite capitalism, then capitalism comes along and sabotages and ruins everything to sell you something worse.
Everyday that phrase seems more real " you will own nothing" because you won’t be allowed to own anything, just take a look at the streaming platforms, or any other platform , they remove , they revoke , they block, they delete, they control what you can and can’t do and you can’t do anything about it.
TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 months ago
We need a bright web.
el_abuelo@programming.dev 2 months ago
Personally I can’t see it, what have they taken away from me?
I own way more now than I did 20yrs ago when the web was still a bright young thing.
Delusional@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Anything you purchase that is attached to a service and you don’t have any physical copies, you don’t actually own.
emax_gomax@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Never-ending the decades of these sites compensating for studios just not giving a sh*t about making their content accessible to the rest of the world.
mriormro@lemmy.world 2 months ago
glitchdx@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Studios need to remember that their shows are advertising for merch and toy sales. That’s where the money is. If I pirate your show, then you don’t have to support the infrastructure to provide me a stream (which would look like shit because you’re not google). I buy posters and tshirts and stickers. Some people buy minifigs and funcopops and other plastic tat that’s cheap to make but sells for, well, whatever that crap sells for.
Furthermore, I wouldn’t mind paying $10 or $15 /month for ONE streaming service if it was able to maintain good picture quality at 1080p AND had all the shows/movies I wanted to watch in one convenient place. Extra emphasis on ‘convenient’. Even more emphasis on it actually having content I want to watch. When I watch a show, I like to watch the entire thing in like, two days. Then I’ll not watch any shows for two or three months, until something gets my attention. I don’t want to pay for a service I don’t use, cancelling and reactivating a service every couple of months is too much hassle, so I’ll just wait until the show is done airing and download it all and watch it at my pace.
surprisingly, I miss dvds.
shalafi@lemmy.world 2 months ago
All-in-one convenience is the only reason I pay Spotify, my only streaming service. Thought about dropping them, but it would be a monstrous hassle gathering, and continuing to gather, all those MP3s. Plus, I can download that content and use it in the woods with no internet connection. Sold.
Video content? What a clusterfuck. I steal every bit of it. Hell, I got Amazon Prime and don’t bother looking at video offerings. Default: 🏴☠️
spirinolas@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I also used Spotify but it has a serious problem. There’s no guarantee your contents will be always available. I had music there that, for whatever reason, was removed and I can no longer listen to it. Not to mention music that was never available there. I don’t want them to control what I can and can’t listen.
Now I only use Jellyfin. It works great (except on Android Auto, but they’ll get there). Sure I have to download the MP3 but you only have to do it once and then it will always be there. Just use spotDL and rip the music right out of Spotify with all the metadata.
T156@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Video was nicer when you could buy a piece of physical media to watch your movie on.
Even then, you still had to contend with such nonsense as region locks later on. Can’t have people watch the movie earliest than release because the production company decided to delay release a while. That would be apocalyptic.
techognito@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Spotify is getting worse as well, at least on desktop.
“we are moving the album to a right sidebar, it now only occupies more of your screen”
“we liked the right sidebar so much that we are moving the queue over there as well, we’re also removing useful info like album and artist”
I shouldn’t have to use spicetify just to get basic features back
bamfic@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Libraries have em. For free. And you can rip them too.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
What is immoral about this is that they will essentially use paying customer’s money to chase down an unachievable goal.
Just goes to show you, companies have no integrity. If they truly were about providing the best experience for paying customers, they’d be like valve and just focus on their own service’s quality.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Exactly, piracy is a service problem.
I cancelled my Disney+ subscription of 2+ years because offline playback isn’t reliable and they raised prices to the point where it’s cheaper for me to buy the physical media I want, rip it, and use Jellyfin to play those offline. If I wasn’t so stubborn about paying for content, I’d just pirate it and do the same.
littlecolt@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Why are you using Jellyfin to play offline media? Isn’t the point of Jellyfin to have access to your media through a network?
yamanii@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Reminder that when you pay crunchyroll they use your money to pay for western animation instead of anime production, biggest myth ever that we were supporting the industry.
Hugin@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They license the anime so they do pay the studios that create anime. I know for a fact that anime studios factor in the ability to license shows in the decision on what to produce and budget.
xylogx@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Fmovie is a new one I never heard of before. Good thing they mentioned it so I know to avoid it in the future.
mctoasterson@reddthat.com 2 months ago
Private Trackers are the way forward.
sandalbucket@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Private trackers disgust me. What kind of pirate turns away from the world, to re-seeding fragments of files they don’t care about to other cowards with slightly slower rss feeds; all for a chance at enough ratio to get the show you want? It’s a country club, with self-validating assholes, dry hot dogs, and tall fences.
The Mainline DHT is the way forward. There is no social credit here. The kids in Africa are starving, and I will throw them as much as I can, kilobyte by kilobyte, for no reason at all, for I too was a leecher once.
sazey@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I seed so others may leech.
midimalist@lemdro.id 2 months ago
As a leecher with atrocious upload speed. Thank you so much for your service.
sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I thought I read that private trackers are hard to sign up to. Or that you have to prove yourself somehow and people get stressed about maintaining their ratio. Is that true? If so, that doesn’t sound fun.
mctoasterson@reddthat.com 2 months ago
You do have to get an invite, seed, and maybe toss them a small crypto donation occasionally. The ratio thing depends on the tracker but usually it’s just a requirement to seed back anything for at least a week. Popular torrents become FreeLeech and they don’t count against your ratio.
Because the participants are all vetted, you don’t get RIAA and MPAA shills in swarm trying to vacuum up IPs to start sending nasty legal letters out.
A decade ago when I used public torrents I remember getting those stupid ISP strikes. I know shit-tier regional ISPs would even try to embarrass you with the content you pirated. They’d send you a letter like “the Copyright holder for ‘Anal Hookers of Beijing’ told us they’re big mad at you, and if you do it again you’ll get your service revoked”. Some of these ISPs were integrated with cable companies so they’d freeze your internet and cable, and display the text of the copyright strike on your fucking TV for your girlfriend or grandma to see.
Fuck that noise.
Since using a private tracker I have never received a single cease and desist or ISP warning letter. Then again, I only use Bit Torrent to download Linux ISOs.
Majestic@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
The most elite trackers perhaps.
Trackers on /r/opensignups ? Nah they open their doors to the public every now and again.
Would not recommend it to anyone who can’t dedicate a seed box or machine uploading torrents most hours of the day every day. It’s possible to do it without those but difficult. With them it’s merely a matter of using free leech and building a buffer up as well as taking advantage of points systems to get free upload just for keeping torrents seeding even without uploading.
If you only ever grab free leech then all you have to worry about is meeting seed time and activity requirements like logging in every 90 days.
An old computer with an external drive. A raspberry pi, a nas that can run a BitTorrent client. Any would work if one doesn’t want to pay for a seed box. (Most trackers ban shared seed boxes though so you will have to get dedicated)
lepinkainen@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Only the few elite ones, mostly the ones with music.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Well perhaps they shouldn’t be 45 different streaming services then? If it was just one streaming service that I could pay you for and then everything I wanted was on that site then there wouldn’t be a problem would there?
Also that would solve the problem of content being removed from streaming services because they got a better deal on some other service that I’m not subscribed to.
Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Or if there were 45 services, but they all basically had everything, rather than all of them having basically nothing
Dave@lemmy.nz 2 months ago
Music has this right. Don’t like spotify? Try Tidal, Qobuz, etc. They all have the same music, but slightly different models to attract different users (Spotify has free and paid tiers, Tidal does high quality, Qobuz does streaming plans as well as individual song purchases).
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Exactly. I’d be fine with picking my favorite streaming service and adding on a bundle for some additional content. As in, I could get Netflix for $10/month, and add Disney+ content for another $5 or whatever.
That way I can pick the service I want without losing the content I want, and the content creators still get paid for their content while keeping prices for most people low.
NutWrench@lemmy.world 2 months ago
A lot of these streaming services are ultimately owned by the same company. Ever had a favorite show, where only seasons 1,3 and 5 are available on one “service” and only seasons 2 and 4 are available on the other? This lets the owner of the series double-dip customers on subscription fees.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 months ago
If we had to subscribe to Spotify and Amazon and Tidal and all the others to have all the artists we wanted to listen to, then I’d pirate those too.
Convenience is what I’m after, free is just a bonus.
endofline@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Honestly most of the modern movies are so bad that even nobody will most likely want to pirate them
Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 months ago
I pirated Twisters and wanted a refund.
no_im_doesnt@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I think we’re all owed a refund and a penalty. What an insult to the original film…
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Yankee_Self_Loader@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Can’t stop the signal…
Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Everything goes somewhere, and we go everywhere.
moepoi@forum.moe.onl 2 months ago
It’s time for me to self host a jellyfin server.
einlander@lemmy.world 2 months ago
All this means to me is someone is going to make a peer to peer darkweb version of these sites sooner rather than later.
spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I only buy second hand physical media, studios aren’t getting a cent of my money no matter what.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Good luck with that,lol
hark@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There are essentially infinite choices for entertainment these days. Hypothetically, even if they somehow stopped 100% of piracy, I still wouldn’t pay for their overpriced slop.
db2@lemmy.world 2 months ago
All this does is make me more interested in “pirating” their infinitely copyable material. More to the point it’s making my interest in financially supporting them drop to zero if not lower.
cm0002@lemmy.world 2 months ago
With Usenet, Plex* (Streaming Server), Radarr (automated movie downloading) and Sonarr (automated TV downloading and management) it’s never been easier!
*Plex is currently on a slow path of enshittification and the only other good alternative, Jellyfin, still has some ways to go before it can pass “The Spouse Test”. I myself have only had Jellyfin in testing and not yet replaced Plex with it. But that day is coming. Jellyfin is well under active development and I have no doubt it will get to feature and stability parity with Plex
linearchaos@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Jellyfin pased my spouse test for local network.
I put her on tailscale for remote access but she’s not a big fan of that.
SirDerpy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Where’s Jellyfin failing the spouse test? My spouse preferred it to Plex because she could turn off all the crap on the home screen.
dil@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I dipped my toes in the self-hosted route and would recommend Stremio + Torrentio + RealDebrid as a much simpler alternative.
Here’s a guide I used - you can probably have it up and running in less than an hour.
Major points:
I have very limited self hosting experience, and between getting my first hello world service running, problems with my ISP, sorting through the different ways to get content, and not already having TBs if hard drives sitting around, I found it to be pretty challenging.
If you’re already experienced in self hosting (or want to learn) and don’t mind the storage costs, then I’d recommend the Plex/Jellyfin route, but if you just want an alternative to the existing streaming services then I’d suggest looking into Stremio.
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
You can always use the older, well established, actively developed, and stable project that Jellyfin is built from; Emby. (Jellyfin is literally Embys code from 10+ years ago)