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Hi! After reading opinions for a long time, I’ve realized that some episodes are quite controversial nowadays. For example, Star Trek: Voyager Season 4, Episode 17, “Retrospect,” has been compared to the #MeToo movement, with some people criticizing how it “handles rape culture unevenly” (as one IMDb review puts it).
This got me thinking: What other things do you feel Star Trek make wrong?
When being a “space military”, Starfleet is shockingly bad at being a “space military”.
Observe:
In the episode, Siege of AR-558, the Feds are defending a subspace relay behind cover, in an entrenched position with only one approach through a choke point and are getting the absolute SHIT kicked out of them. THIS IS A SOLVED PROBLEM. We solved it in the 19th century. The solution is a machine gun. Hell, put a specialized micro replicator that just makes bullets in place of the magazine and you essentially have an infinite ammo cheat.
In the episode A Fistful of Datas, Worf jury rigs a personal shield to deflect bullets. Awesome. Why is this not standard issue?
Why is the bridge, the nerve center of the ship, put on the top center of the saucer where it can be easily targeted and blown up?
Why does no one have pockets?
On AR-558 they’d been run down and were running out. Any heavy weapons they brought had been damaged or expired.
They’re not standard due to the lack of people firing bullets.
Because it’s not easily targeted, I don’t recall anyone deliberately targeting a bridge? Also there’s much more tempting targets and the non-military advantages outweigh the military disadvantages. All the same arguments about why humans have their brains and eyes all up on display rather than burried behind a case of bones!
No idea about the pockets thing. Probably because they’re not motivated by the acquisition of things they don’t think about places to put their things?
Letting Rick Burman run rampant for years
I came here to say, “attractive women existing.”
… What?
It would ruin the concept, so I get why they don’t tackle the topic, but:
The federation, particularly humanity inside of the federation, is run by essentially a military government. There are elections, probably, we never really get to see them, and the decision making process of the admirals is not shown to the viewer, for world building and story telling reasons. The admirals are the problem posers, the calls to adventure, the exposition. “Go there, do this, top secret, very important, blah blah”.
They don’t do misuse them in lore, that much, but even the lesser capable space ships are enormously dangerous. If I recall correctly, there are even some mentions of not being regularly allowed to warp inside solar system boundaries. The risk of misuse or accidents is unimaginable. I’m pretty sure humanity has resigned itself to being ruled by some admiralty board that could order to vaporize the planet. They’re not going to do that, but the implication is certainly… looming.
I also really don’t like how they changed styles after the 80s/90s series. The perceived need to reinvent themselves has yielded mostly bad results. Only “Strange New Worlds” is tolerable, because it’s well done, but it’s still “too much” in my opinion. The special effects are nice, but there was no need to design corridors like that.
Same for uniforms. Look at how much “the suit” has changed since the 1870s. Barely at all.
Neither humanity nor the Federation are run by a military government. I’m not even sure what gave you that impression. The federation, as its name suggests, is a federal system like the US, or the EU. Each planet retains its political structure while participating in the federation. Earth is the exception where it’s essentially the DC of the federation and is run directly by the federation council. Earth is also unique in being communistic rather than having a currency based economy like most other planets and the federation itself. Starfleet is a human organization that predates the creation of the federation and at that time was absorbed as its military arm. The president of the federation is the commander in chief of Starfleet. There is even a two parter in DS9 where an admiral tries to overthrow the president and fails and it is referred to as a “military coup”.
Eh, any spaceship capable of even approaching warp speed is a potential star-killer. Like in a very physical sense those ships each have the ability to kill all life within a solar system.
crowcore_explorer@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago not sure if this has been discussed by the actresses or anyone familiar with the behind scenes situation, but what was with casting a chinese-american and korean-american as japanese women? given the how the imperial aspirations of japan had such a brutalizing affect on those nations, i still find this culturally tone deaf. why did the characters have to be japanese?
referring, of course to keiko o’brien and hoshi sato.
I get it, but also Patrick Stewart was not a french man.
1st seasons
I personally like first season of TNG, people usually overhate the two first season of TNG.
Languages.
What specific? Fedearation languages like the fact every human speak english or “federation standard”? Or Klingon language and some other?
_NetNomad@fedia.io 3 hours ago i harp on this a lot but Enterprise's Cogenitor is a deeply distriburing episode that everyone involved with should be ashamed of
Riker kills a guy for looking like him.
You mean his clone? He didn’t kill it, right?
FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 hours ago In "Up the Long Ladder" some clones were made of him. He vaporized them.
They shouldn't have been made without his permission like that, but I also think there was definitely something skeevy about him killing them.
Not Thomas Riker - the clone from “Up The Long Ladder.”
He doesn’t kill Tom.
Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 4 hours ago
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This is the one that immediately comes to mind for me.
makeshift0546@lemmy.today 40 minutes ago
Bro, ep 2 (or 3 I forget) is far worse than that skirt. Some racist ass wakanda forever shit going on in that ep.
blue_morpho@lemmy.world@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
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okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Bro rocked that uniform.
Coldcell@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
Ah, the skant… you were taken away far too soon.
Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 2 hours ago
I definitely appreciated that they used that across gender boundaries. The dress itself isn’t the problem, it’s the fact that they didn’t allow the actors to choose for themselves what they wanted.
cuchi@startrek.website 3 hours ago
“That you could see what I had for breakfsat” wow…