That article was worthless… basically streaming is expensive and not as awesome as it once was. There you go whole article
Streaming is cable now | Seventeen years after Netflix and Hulu kicked off a streaming revolution, it’s looking more like cable than ever.
Submitted 6 months ago by Dankry@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theverge.com/24152330/netflix-hulu-disney-plus-hbo-streaming-cable-video-verge
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teamevil@lemmy.world 6 months ago
dan1101@lemm.ee 6 months ago
The biggest change to me is how much the streaming services are pushing commercials now. Paying to watch commercials really completes the transition back to cable.
barsquid@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Paying to watch commercials will be a no from me. I remember people did this but it is still hard to believe. 1/3 of the content per hour is ads, they are all repetitive and stupid. Except now they are repetitive and stupid despite selling all your data to the advertisers.
PlantJam@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s still way more awesome than cable ever was. Sure you can have all the services all at once and pay as much as a cable bill, or you can rotate your subscriptions and pay way less.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’m not sure about that. Popular shows get canceled, unfinished. Huge price hikes, and you can’t jump to another provider to watch the shows at a new rate or call and threaten to cancel to get a new rate. Sure, there are a few good series, but it’s still mostly crap. Sure, you can watch some older movies on demand, but plenty aren’t available, are available on some other service, and/or require you to pay a rental fee if you can find it. Prices keep climbing, ads are constantly a threat, and they place more restrictions on how many devices you’re allowed to watch on.
They are doing everything they can to re-insert the worst aspects of cable.
Fredselfish@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I sure soon they will introduce contracts making sign up for 6 to 1 year up front to prevent just that.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 months ago
@teamevil, the hero we need, not the hero we deserve.
redeyejedi@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yes, but no. Cable didn’t used to let you watch all seasons of a specific show on any given day and time of your choosing.
dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’m old enough to remember when cable didn’t have ads. I was really young, maybe 5ish, but even then it was confusing to me when they started adding commercials. That was for bad TV with the antenna. Then it was only HBO that didn’t have ads, but we couldn’t afford that until I was much older.
BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Basic cable has always had commercials along with the over the air channels. Premium channels didn’t.
SeaJ@lemm.ee 6 months ago
If you got it over antenna, it most definitely was not cable.
pixel_prophet@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Until the show you want to watch gets removed because they don’t want to pay the licensing fee for it anymore.
The original content is often very mid.
snownyte@kbin.social 6 months ago
Pretty much.
If you missed an episode of a show on cable television. Well, you're shit out of luck unless it's a show that the network didn't mind running re-runs of, but re-runs only applied for shows that were popular. And if you missed an episode of a show that wasn't popular, again you were shit out of luck and hope to one day acquire it through a VHS or a DVD or these days, blu-ray or on streaming.
Network programming was always like this.
Huschke@programming.dev 6 months ago
That is also the reason everything reset to the status quo at the end of every episode.
Veraxus@lemmy.world 6 months ago
On the up-side, I can cancel subscriptions whenever I want and only subscribe to one or two at a time when they have something I want to watch. I could never do that with cable.
That said, pricing is getting way out of control. I will not tolerate ads and we’re getting to the point where purchasing content makes more financial sense than subscribing to things that load you up with caveats unless you pay premiums.
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
They’re going to complicate unsubscribing next.
SeeJayEmm@lemmy.procrastinati.org 6 months ago
I think that’s illegal in some places, like California and the EU.
Pixlbabble@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It takes like 3 steps to cancel an audible account on Amazon.
yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
Amazon is way ahead of the curve
Takashiro@lemmy.today 6 months ago
The “best” part you forgot , buying probably won’t be possible or available
Veraxus@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Unfortunately, you are absolutely right. 😞
And also, even when it is… it’s “buying” (with quotes), because in this brave new digital world… you don’t actually own anything you “buy”.
Crisps@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I fear the change from monthly to annual only subscriptions is on the horizon
Pixlbabble@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I hear you’re tired of monthly payments. How about…
Etterra@lemmy.world 6 months ago
What we wanted: a-la-carte channels.
What we got: seven expensive streaming services and they all still somehow have ESPN bullshit.
Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
What we actually need: !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
The music industry figured it out. Now the video streaming industry needs to. Until then, arrrrrr.
AA5B@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The music industry figured it out: I listen to way more music than ever before and I willingly pay more than ever before
Video streaming keeps trying to make my experience more frustrating, less value to me. They’re scrounging for dollars is driving me away. I’ve considered my options for making video entertainment enjoyable again, and I’m just tired of the whole thing. I’m spending more time in projects, more time online, more time reading ebooks from my library. I’m watching less video than before, enjoying it less, getting less value for my money and it’s just all not worth it. Their efforts to profit more from my attention are getting them less of it and losing my willingness to pay
abhibeckert@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The big difference is exclusive content. Music has a few exceptions but in general sign up for one service and you can listen to anything.
Adalast@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yo ho ho my friend. Yo ho ho.
unreasonabro@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Oh sure, great idea! Henceforth, actors don’t get paid any more. that’s what the music industry has “figured out”, how to steal all the money and give it to people who had no involvement with actually making the music.
You should be pirating the fucking music not supporting the pricks who stole everything.
IntheTreetop@lemm.ee 6 months ago
No problem, friend. I have time for both.
abhibeckert@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Spotify pays more to artists than physical stores selling CDs ever did.
Sure - if you were one of he top 1000 artists in the world the old system worked well… but those artists are also paid pretty well under the current system (Spotify alone pays millions per year to those artists, and they also get paid by YouTube, Apple, TikTok, etc etc).
Lemonparty@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Meanwhile pirating content and streaming it has never been easier. Jellyfin and private trackers ftw
Steve@startrek.website 6 months ago
Arrrrrrrr
snownyte@kbin.social 6 months ago
Um, duh?
Is the author just noticing this? We've been piecing this together for the past 7 some odd years. The day hit us was when YouTube decided to be cute by adding in it's own network via YouTubeTV and with it's onslaught of ads?
hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
We know, Verge.
Now go build an PC…wait nevermind.
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
nah, just get a thinkpad
hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Look up “Verge PC build” on Youtube to get it.
Audacious@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I stopped using Hulu when it introduced ads over a decade ago and never looked back. The stock of that company did really well despite the cable-like inconveniences.
Mostly_Harmless_Variant@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Lessons from movies that streaming services didn’t learn:
“You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”
fuzzywombat@lemmy.world 6 months ago
With the current state of streaming services mess, I think I would have signed up for disc rental by mail. Access to nearly 100% of media for around 10 to 15 bucks a month seems pretty good deal right about now. Sadly Netflix killed that part of their business so I can’t even go back to that.
ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
It’s not like netflix is the only one that can offer that kind of service. You’ve still got gamefly, 3D Bluray Rental, cafedvd, redbox (if you’re fine with going to a kiosk), your public library, and probably others if you care to search for them.
obviouspornalt@lemmynsfw.com 6 months ago
yakimasy@startrek.website 6 months ago
I’ve just gone back to pirating and buying DVDs. I don’t watch much of anything anymore.
misspacific@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
same, i also abuse free trials pretty hard.
(virtual credit cards and visa gift cards with little to no money on them work great)
JCreazy@midwest.social 6 months ago
I went from cable to satellite in 2008 and then went strictly streaming in 2010. I’ve had Disney + and Netflix off and on over the years but I’ve found that I don’t need any of them. There are plenty of things to watch for free elsewhere and plenty of other things to do than watch shows that will be canceled after the first season.
InternetUser2012@midwest.social 6 months ago
I won’t watch a show unless it’s done. This bullshit of cancelling after one season is ass.
Pixlbabble@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Dvd’s are still free at the library if you don’t want to pirate.
Beetlejuice001@lemmy.wtf 6 months ago
Hulu is owned by cable companies, they didn’t learn everyone hates advertising
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
now it’s mostly Disney or even fully disney, i forgot
reddig33@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’ll be cable when they start making you contact customer retention in order to cancel.
Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
!piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
lobut@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
I have a reminder to cancel Amazon Prime in a month. I never really used the TV portion until a few months ago and was like, fine … the selection sucks but it’s alright. After they introduced the ads now, it’s unusable to me. I’m getting rid of it entirely and not rewarding this type of behaviour.
SacredHeartAttack@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The convenience you required is now mandatory.
SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Three things:
- Governments need to regulate exclusive third party content so that the platforms compete on quality instead of just amount of content.
- Companies should go back to pay as you use. I hate subscribing to things.
- Users should push back hard on new bad things that the corporations do.
Pixlbabble@lemmy.world 6 months ago
And just like the good ol days, pirating is back in fashion.
Adalast@lemmy.world 6 months ago
My hot take, in the digital age, all direct marketing should be opt-in with the platform. Opt-in for industries with the ability to ban specific advertisers.
kratoz29@lemm.ee 6 months ago
What is that Hulu you are talking about, we never got that in Mexico (nor Pandora now that I am talking about it).
In this day and age where everyone wants its piece of the cake it is weird to me that they never cared about more countries xd.
AA5B@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It may have been more difficult and expensive than you’d expect. My understanding was distribution contracts tend to be per country. Netflix can’t just stream all the stuff from north of the border, but have to start over with buying rights to everything
This made more sense when distributors were all per country but not so much for streamers
freebread@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Another streaming service that started around the same time as Netflix’s. More focused on TV shows and now owned by Disney.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 6 months ago
MUuuhhaaaaa. I worked for a cable company for a little over a decade. I remember commenting when people everywhere were talking about its death that streaming would soon be just like cable. They called me a fool. MUuuhhaaaaa!
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
This is what you made me think of
UckyBon@lemmy.world 6 months ago
If you don’t watch it it looks like nothing.
nobleshift@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Rizen IRC
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
Tizen IRC chat ???
irreticent@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Do you mean Rizon? What about it?
isles@lemmy.world 6 months ago
When the ideas run dry for infinite growth, everything old is new again.
snownyte@kbin.social 6 months ago
You're correct.
Social Media is the perfect example of this. Everytime a new social media network arrives, they always boast about being able to do things you could already have done with the other 9 social media networks. Sharing pictures and video, chatting .etc. They're all things we could've already have done far way back in the days of messaging software like AIM. It's nothing new, it's just recycled ideas being treated as new.
The only things that have ever improved were the amount of size of videos and pictures we can share and the speed in which we're able to do it with. That's it.
The well of finding new ideas has ran dry, because they've all been tried and done before many times. New name, same old shit.
AtariDump@lemmy.world 6 months ago
But Tom was my friend whereas Zuck is an alien.
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nbdjd@lemmy.world 6 months ago
How does Tik Tok’s success or Vine’s demise fit into this?