Submitted 8 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world [bot] to technology@lemmy.world
More 128TB SSDs are coming as almost no one noticed this launch — another SSD controller that can support up to 128TB appeared paving the way for HDD-beating capacities::Phison quietly revealed an updated X2 SSD platform at CES
I care about affordable stuf not luxury .
These are not intended for you anyways. They are designed for servers.
It’s still interesting though and server hardware eventually makes it way down to normal people.
I read 128GB SSDs and thought “who cares”
impressive.
That’s cool and all, but the only reason I would want that capacity is to store stuff that I would want to store for much longer than a lifespan of an SSD. Only HDD’s have that kind of lifespan. 
Correct me if I’m wrong here, but I remember that SSDs lifespan mainly depends on how much you overwrite the drive. For 128TB, it should take you a very long time to overwrite the entire drive, let alone couple hundred or thousand times to kill the drive. I know that bit rot also happens on SSDs, but that applies to HDDs as well, and good drive maintenance practices should alleviate the issue. Though for archival purposes/cold storage, tape drives are probably better.
The lifespan of your data isn’t nearly as long as the lifespan of the cells storing your data. Due to leakage of of power from the cells, and the more and more dense these cells are being packed (leading to smaller differences between what voltage maps to what binary value), SSDs have issues with bitrot. With a disk this size you would need to have data regularly checked and refreshed (rewritten) to ensure the data being stored was still correct and not corrupted.
If they are loading the drive up with media for archival purposes how much overwriting are they going to be doing, anyways? Theoretically the drive should last a very long time for that purpose.
SSD lifespan is expressed in terabytes written (TBW), wherein yeah they can sustain so many writes to the flash chips before they can’t anymore.
Really depends on the content, type of use, architecture, and the file system. You’re not wrong, some situations would take centuries to wear this guy out.
It’s not for you. It’s for enterprises, but I can drive down the prices of shit you would use. No noise, better performance, less energy; it’s a win-win.
Yeah, that’s what I figured
HDDs typically don’t last as long as SSDs due to their mechanics failing. Data is there but it just won’t spin. I’ve yet to have an SSD actually fail. Every HDD I’ve ever owned, save one, has.
This has not been my experience at all, nor is what I know from general knowledge— that, due to rewriting, SSDs become unusable within 3-5 years, whereas the typical lifespan of an enterprise HDD is 5-7 years, perhaps longer.
In my own use, SSDs of mine seem to crap out around 5-ish years, whereas HDDs get 7+, and the $/GB ratio makes it a no-brainer, esp for video library/archive storage where it’s mostly read/write no rewrite and long-term storage with no need for very high-speed access (like for editing 4/8K).
I had one fail three weeks ago…but I been using it nonstop since 2013. Yeah, it was 128gb
I’ve had at least 8 SSDs fail in various ways personally.
I’m holding out upgrading for the holographic nano dark matter drives that have infinite storage capacity and RAID data into 3 alternate universes for security.
Some high tech alien’s porn stash is embedded in the fabric of our universe and that’s the reason we exist.
Are we the porn? Some alien’s weird fetish?
This is why I feel like an interdimensional cumshot all the time.
I may have just jizzed in my pants
Maybe the price will dry you off.
Too late
Realistically, a couple of 10TB drives would have me covered for like a decade at least. If these massive drives bring down the price of much smaller ones, I’m a happy boy.
Yeah I have an old pc. Built it 6 or 7 years ago with a 1080 FTW2 card that is still going strong. For storage I have a wd 1tb drive and a 250gb ssd with windows on it. I’ve been fine for the most part since I don’t watch 4k tv and only really play older games anymore.
That’s some nice density you got there. While you’re at it…
Can I get a 12.8TB drive 1/10th the physical size (m.2 2230) and has a steady transfer rate of 2.4GBs that costs <$200 dollhairs? Pretty please 🙏
Unless you’re using a NUC or similar, M.2 is the worst form factor - and consumer grade drives are all shit. If you’re in the market for storage I’d recommend looking at used enterprise U.2 drives in the 0.5-1 DWPD range. Adapters (PCIe or M.2 to U.2) are super cheap.
I am using NUCs.
How expensive are they, $100,000 or maybe more?
4.5k from a quick search.
≈$35/TB or ≈3.4¢/GB Actually not a bad deal at all, consider the current SSD prices.
That’s actually pretty reasonable.
I’m going to need a source for that, as it’s well below even regular consumer SSDs.
Hmm. As a personal user, 9k to not worry about storage space or redundancy, for at least a decade seems like a pretty great deal.
Looks like 40k a pop
Still can’t afford it.
Do you think the normal consumer would care? All that matters is for SSD to become as cheap or cheaper than HDDs or nothing
Its pretty cool. Number go up is exciting.
Bigger number better
I am coming from Incremental Social, but I agree.
My laptop has a 256GB SSD, and even this still feels plenty to me. Not sure what I’d even do with 500 times that much space.
Store 3 new AAA games?
don't exaggerate. Stores 2 AAA games.
This gave me my first legit lol today thank you
Should’ve added that I don’t use this laptop for gaming. I also don’t store multiple AAA games in parallel. But I get your point.
Games eat up my SSD at an alarming rate. I could see myself using several TB easily.
My steam deck typically has one big game installed at a time. At this point, I just want to finish baldurs gate 3 so I can delete it and put on some other games.
Simple things. Lemmy, for instance, has grown to ~60GB since June las year. And that’s just the db and federated media since I don’t really havr any uploads. The big instancea are easily into the hundreds od gigs - I know lemmy.ca had over 300GB of media alone last autumn.
On a more consumer level - high quality 4k media eats up storage pretty fast. The phones taking pictures and video in higher and higher quality - space requirements will only ever go up.
Lemmy federates media other than text?
that’s for enterprise use; also plenty of uses in a data-driven world to run predictive models on.
I really need to clean up my picture library …
Clearly you are not a data hoarder
Not at all, but I see that lots of Lemmy users are into self-hosting and like to set up their own media boxes, where I can see how large SSDs could come in handy.
What’s the biggest HDD out there? I mean at sizes this big it’s a lot of data to lose in one go if it dies. Even if you have backups or whatever that’s a lot to have to restore.
Are we including magnetic tape?
Looks like they hit 580 TB a few years ago: pcmag.com/…/fujifilm-and-ibm-set-world-record-wit…
I like 80TB drives for media. I know the rules of safe backup say you should have 3 copies, but I just have another 80TB drive for each one that’s in use and I do a sync every few months. The backup drives, when not hooked up to sync for backup, sit safely in anti static bags inside the boxes they came in, in a file cabinet drawer.
Who sells 80TB HDDs? None on the market that I know of.
You are probably expected to buy like 100+ of these at a time.
Man I has to read that 4 times before it registered. Fucking he’ll shits nuts
Call me when they somehow fit this on an SD card in another 10 years
Whatcha talking bout? There are many ads for 128 Tb drive on TEMU and Ali Express! Like for cereal man, they show proper sizes and everything!
/s if ya didn’t get it
I read it as 128GB. Then I was like, ohhhhhhhh. Sweet!
Given how many years its been since the first 100TB SSD released, anything short of 200TB seems kinda meh. Honestly kinda figured we’d be past the 400TB mark at this point, but I guess those sizes simply aren’t that interesting from a business perspective even if just as a halo product not meant to actually sell much.
That’s cool and all. How many levels per cell? Can I have it in SLC? No? Ok then I’m good.
db2@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That’s because we’re having trouble just getting food. A shiny new and expensive SSD isn’t even on the list at this point.
greybeard@lemmy.one 8 months ago
At that size they are certainly targeting enterprise and cloud servers. Cool that they are getting that big, but they probably cost as much as a house.
the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Dunno, have you seen the new Medal of Honor?
ripcord@lemmy.world 8 months ago
4.5k would be a pretty cheap house.