OpenAI boss Sam Altman wants $7tn. For all our sakes, pray he doesn’t get it

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• Wytch@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Tech billionaires trying to solve the world’s problems is a bit like a cancer trying to save its host from organ failure

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  • iAvicenna@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    they are not trying to solve anything really, they just think they are the next best thing earth has ever seen so they have the right to do everything

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    • Orbituary@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m working with a douchebag billionaire directly right now on a complex project related to the ransomware encryption of a healthcare provider. Because he’s part of the private equity firm and a billionaire, he thinks he knows how to drive the resolution better than I and my team of techs do.

      All he does is drag me into more meetings and force me to get my techs to do shit that’s not conducive to restoring their systems.

      He’s a giant waste of self aggrandized trash.

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  • avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oof. I’m gonna use that. 👏

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  • QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well, Altman isn’t even a billionaire…

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    • Orbituary@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’re playing checkers, not chess.

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• GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Wake me up when “ai” makes the amount of CO2 in the earth’s atmosphere trend downward. Generative AI is just a way to burn electricity to take value produced by humans and then replace those same humans, all to line the pockets of the companies that can afford to churn all the data in the world.

  For the handful of genuinely cool and interesting things it can do, the number of extremely awful costs and externalities is like 1000x worse.

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  • Steak@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You nailed it.

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    • sizzler@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Says “steak”

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  • gaifux@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes cow farts and leaving the lights on will surely kill us all like, soon

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  • abhibeckert@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    OpenAI runs on Azure, which is carbon neutral.

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    • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oh, bless your heart.

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    • topinambour_rex@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How they achieve this ?

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• rageagainstmachines@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Serious question: why does everyone in silicon valley have a god complex?

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  • Restaldt@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    $

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    • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      $

      $$$$$∞

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  • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think it’s Steve Jobs’ popularity and following, where his own god complex was an important trait. Then some people realized that if you imitate it, you get more money and publicity, and normies will believe you more. Then, of course, with power it’s not hard to really develop one.

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  • dopeshark@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes.

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• LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m glad perspectives has stopped treating Sam Altman like a tech God. dude is second coming of every FAANG CEO and Elon combined. there’s no way that guy isnt up to no good.

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  • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I get strong “ends justify the means” vibes.

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  • laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The more I’m hearing, the more it sounds like the former board was justified in axing him

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The problem is they went about it in a profoundly stupid way. The way they acted made it seem like he done something explicit and then they refused to actually elaborate. We still don’t know what really happened.

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    • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      oh they absolutely were. just how that shitshow went down with the M$ offers and the decision reversal showed that it was power politics in play to kill reason

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• AshMan85@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Socialism for monopolies but not for starving and sick people.

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• KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Before he was a thundering asshat at Y Combinator, he started a mobile company that sold your location to brands called Loopt. He’s a piece of work.

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  • Jackcooper@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I am thinking of getting a tomtom. Tired of my phone trying to throw a fit when I disable location after I’ve figured out my way to my destination.

    So much of this advertising economy depends on it and we just give it away.

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    • Steak@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Don’t get a tom tom. Learn to use real paper maps. I use google maps most of the time because its fast and works. But anytime I’m out in the bush I have gps turned off I use maps I’ve bought or ones I’ve made. Learning to read and understand maps has made a big difference in my life.

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    • evranch@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Just learn how to navigate properly with a map. You know where you are (hopefully) and you look up where you’re going. Do your own routing, it’s not hard and once you’ve been doing it for awhile you’ll have instinctive routes you use to link different areas. No location permissions required.

      If you use navigation all the time you can become like my ex-wife. Lost without it, in her own city. Exercise your brain by finding your way around with landmarks and signage, I have never used navigation apps because I know my way across three provinces, and can navigate the major cities just based on my instinctive mental maps of them.

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• SketchySeaBeast@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If he wants $7tn, he better pay for all the content he stole to do it. Fuck these guys, wanting to become unfathomably rich off other people’s labour.

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• zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I have no patience for things I’m not interested in: parties, most people. When someone examines a photo and says, ‘Oh, he’s feeling this and this and this,’ all these subtle emotions, I look on with alien intrigue.

  Is he describing sociopathy?

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  • trolololol@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Just confirming he has what it takes to be CEO. I wonder if there are other skills or that’s it.

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  • ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Definitely the guy we want running the company that decides what the human race needs from computers, then.

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  • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is that “it” talking about itself? Then don’t let it bullshit you, it’s trying to communicate, but by being manipulative. So ignore it.

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• PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Fuck these people.

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• raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is a face born to be punched. Much like the Zuckfuck or the Muskrat.

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• Digital_man@lemmy.one ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  A “product” of any kind will not solve our problems.

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  • iopq@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A phone is a product, and it solves a lot of problems.

    I used to print out mapquest directions to wherever I drove. Now I can just use navigation.

    Products can solve problems, that’s why people pay for them

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    • Haagel@lemmings.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think he means existential problems, like our belligerent lumbering towards the violent self-destruction of humanity.

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• homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They should use that non-creepy picture of him.

  Hm? Oh. Oh right.

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• RonSijm@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  For all our sakes, pray he doesn’t get it

  It doesn’t really go into why not.

  If governments are going to be pouring money into something, I’d prefer it to be in the tech industry.

  Imagine a cold-war / Oppenheimer situation where all the governments are scared that America / Russia / UAE will reach AI supremacy before {{we}} do? Instead of dumping all the moneyz into Lockheed Martin or Raytheon for better pew pew machines - we dump it into better semiconductor machinery, hardware advancements, and other stuff we need for this AI craze.

  In the end we might not have a useful AI, but at least we’ve made progression in other things that are useful

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  • RememberTheApollo@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What benefits to “AI supremacy” are there? Going to hand the keys to defense and the internet to it? What could go wrong…

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    • deadcream@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There are many uses for AI that governments are interested in. Deepfakes, cheaper and more subtle ways to influence public opinions on the internet (by being able to instantly deploy thousands or millions of fully automated bots that are able to express their “opinions” in a way that is indistinguishable from humans), accurate and automated analysis of public discourse on the large scale, etc. And if you have an edge over other countries then you are able to influence their public opinions and detect (and possible counteract) when they try to influence you.

      AI is very good at analysing human-generated data, as well as generating data that looks human-created. Any entity that deals with (and desires to control) a large number of people (of which governments are prime examples) will find many uses for it.

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    • RonSijm@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What benefits to “AI supremacy” are there?

      I wasn’t saying there was any, I was saying there are benefits to the race towards it.

      In the sense of - If you could pick any subject that world governments would be in a war about - “the first to the moon”, “the first nuclear” or “first hydrogen bomb”, or “the best tank” - or “the fastest stealth air-bomber”

      I think if you picked a “tech war” (AI in this case) - Practically a race of who could build the lowest nm fabs, fastest hardware, and best algorithms - at least you end up with innovations that are useful

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  • avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why not? Here’s one reason - because the planet is burning from climate change and we need a shit ton more resources for solving it. It’s unlikely that AI would help much with that. Of course the UAE isn’t too interested in the world moving away from fossil fuels.

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    • RonSijm@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ok, sure. So in a tech race, if energy is a bottleneck - and we’d be pouring $7tn into tech here - don’t you think some of the improvements would be to Power usage effectiveness (PUE) - or a better Compute per Power Ratio?

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    • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Climate change again, as if there were no constant wars partly financed by developed countries.

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    • iopq@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      China already produces more carbon by itself than the entire West combined

      worldometers.info/…/co2-emissions-by-country/

      That just shows you can still use electricity, as long as it’s not from coal

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• Mastengwe@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  All AI needs to be shut the fuck down until it can be properly regulated. Making up the rules as we go is just fucking stir.

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  • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Who are you expecting to regulate it? How are you envisioning those regulations working? Who and how is that getting enforced?

    It’s like trying to regulate 3D printing. Sure, you can probably find some agency that can pretend to be in charge, but unless they have monitoring software installed on every 3D printer including consumer and DIY units, they aren’t going to know what anyone does in their basement.

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    • 0xD@infosec.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      …europa.eu/…/eu-ai-act-first-regulation-on-artifi…

      Like this ;)

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  • theredknight@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Lol by who? Octogenarian Congress members who get more bribes than emails?

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Bribes are the only way to get their attention since they don’t read their emails

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  • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’ll be shut down for decades then. Governments around the world are dynamically doing bugger all about it.

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    • Mastengwe@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’d be fine with that. As long as it’s contained.

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  • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Problem there is that we don’t really don’t know what rules we need until we mind of have it. Governments do need to be much faster with making these rules when they appear needed, though, and AI companies should require a LOT more government supervision.

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• fidodo@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The US collects about 5 trillion in revenue a year. This fucker wants a budget on the scale of the biggest revenue of a country on earth. That’s more power than the president has. Fuck this guy. Nobody deserves that much trust.

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• BigMacHole@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m GLAD we don’t Tax him OR his TRILLION dollar company!

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• trolololol@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Wtf is a tn?

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  • rigatti@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Trillion.

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    • trolololol@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Na you made that up. I’ll stick with ton.

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• Thcdenton@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m just sick of seeing his jerkoff face.

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• jerrythegenius@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Bruh I’d be jumping on ceiling with 700 AUD. The hell is he gonna do with 7000000000000 USD?

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• nivenkos@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Luddite nonsense. AI will drive productivity gains which will help research in photovoltaics, nuclear fusion, carbon capture (also needed for SpaceX’s Mars mission), etc. and improve society.

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  • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think it’s more about not trusting certain individuals rather than not trusting AI per se.

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  • Venator@lemmy.nz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    timharford.com/…/cautionary-tales-the-assassin-an…

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• autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is the best summary I could come up with:

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  But then his company, OpenAI, launched ChatGPT, and suddenly he was everywhere – touring the world, giving interviews to gushing journalists, granting audiences to awestruck politicians etc.

  When someone examines a photo and says, ‘Oh, he’s feeling this and this and this,’ all these subtle emotions, I look on with alien intrigue.” Altman’s great strengths, concluded Friend, “are clarity of thought and an intuitive grasp of complex systems.

  Well, as the Register helpfully points out, it’s enough cash “to gobble up Nvidia, TSMC, Broadcom, ASML, Samsung, AMD, Intel, Qualcomm, and every other chipmaker, designer, intellectual property holder, and equipment vendor of consequence in their entirety – and still have trillions left over”.

  They are ecstatic about AI because finally a technology has arrived that apparently could fix everything – economic growth, healthcare, productivity, education, even the climate crisis.

  Our future, apparently, depends on infinite amounts of what the industry now calls “compute”, and Altman is lauded because only he has had the courage to say out loud how much of it is needed in order to save civilisation.

  Sing it proudThe former US employment secretary, Robert Reich, has written a thoughtful Substack post titled “Why I preach to the choir”.

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