Xbox is still committed to making consoles, says boss Phil Spencer

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• TheFerrango@lemmy.basedcount.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They also said they were still committed to Zune and Windows Phone.

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  • smeg@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They probably weren’t lying then or now, they are committed… for this quarter. When they read the numbers next quarter, well that’s completely unrelated to today’s commitments!

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• echo64@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The writing is on the wall here, and it’s plain to see. Also, you really can’t trust anything that comes out of Phil Spencer’s mouth.

  If the goal is indeed for Xbox games to be on all platforms, then the Xbox platform is the only place they don’t make money. Super low third-party sales, zero first-party sales. Only gamepass subscription money, which can’t pay for all of their company buyouts, never mind paying off the 65 billion actiblizz purchase.

  If gamepass is everywhere, then Xbox has no value to Microsoft, it only harms them.

  It also exists to weaken any argument they might have to get governments to forcibly allow Microsoft stores on other platforms like the eu apple ruling.

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  • ripley@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It doesn’t even matter if Gamepass or Xbox is currently profitable or not. It’s about whether it can be more profitable. They originally thought the path to that was through exclusivity - now they don’t (just as Sony changed course in regards to putting stuff on PC). Anyone who thinks that corporate decision-making is ever based on anything else is being naive.

    The practical concern here for me is at what point does MS find it most profitable to stop supporting my ability to use my accumulated physical and digital xbox software. Another reason walled gardens suck.

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  • dumpsterlid@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Microsoft (and other large game companies) are trying to do the gaming industry what Spotify did to the music industry. Blow the bottom out of it, get consumers used to subscriptions where money goes to massive companies not the artists actually doing the work, and when it all collapses in a heap Microsoft can then do whatever they want because workers in the game industry have zero leverage left to dictate a higher quality of life because the path to profit has been carpet bombed by the finance industry.

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  • esc27@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Windows is everywhere but the Microsoft Surface products still have value to Microsoft. Or for that matter, Steam is everywhere but Valve still made the steam deck. There seems to be some value to software companies making hardware if only to help set the tone and introduce features or ideas they hope other companies who use their software will follow.

    That said, I wonder if we won’t see the Xbox brand transition to software only with a line of gamer targeted Microsoft surfaces advertised as Xbox ready.

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    • Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Those are the standards and those products have value. Buying an Xbox when Playstation has all games for both consoles makes no sense unless you just have to have Gamepass, specifically.

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  • Shadywack@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Also, you really can’t trust anything that comes out of Phil Spencer’s mouth.

    That’s really not a Phil Spencer thing, and more of a “You can tell any executive is lying, because their lips are moving” thing.

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    • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      When a nintendo executive I generally trust that theirs truth somewhere past the branding. With Phil Spencer talks I’m just assuming the opposite of everything he says. It’s a different thing, he really goes for the lies, to you, to the ftc, everyone

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  • BorgDrone@lemmy.one ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s almost as if Microsoft is a software company at heart and just wants to sell as many copies of their software as possible.

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• SquigglyEmpire@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s never a good sign when you have to say something like that…

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  • Shadywack@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Any man who must say ‘I am the King’ is no true king.”

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    • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Didn’t Aragorn have to tell those ghost dudes he was the king to get them to fulfill their oath? 🤔

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• kadu@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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  • Redacted@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Having been predominantly a PC gamer for 30 years… PCs more hassle to update and maintain. When I finish work I want to sit on my sofa and play with as little inconvenience as possible.

    Consoles fit nicely in a living room and are better for local multiplayer. This generation they were also cheaper than buying the equivalent PC hardware at launch.

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    • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      PCs more hassle to update and maintain.

      That’s Windows, not PCs in general. Steam Deck is an example of a PC system done right where the OS just works and tinkering is optional.

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    • kadu@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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  • B0NK3RS@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s a odd stance to take. How would you be a thousand times happier if consoles didn’t exist?

    Consoles still have their place in gaming and to think otherwise is somewhere ignorant. Just live the best of both worlds like the rest of us and don’t get so wound up!

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    • kadu@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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  • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I would be a thousand times happier in a world without consoles. Games are published everywhere, and “consoles” are just prepackaged PCs from Microsoft or Sony for people who do not want to build a PC themselves

    What do you think current PS and Xbox consoles are? They are all just PC hardware with each a custom OS as differentiating feature. A world in which everything has to run Windows is definitively much worse than the current state.

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    • kadu@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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  • lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’d rather see consoles open up to being general purpose PCs, than not see consoles at all.

    Valve got it right with the Steam Deck. I enjoy accessing my game library from SteamOS and using the Desktop Mode when I need to be productive.

    If the Xbox had an option to boot into Windows, they’d be selling the Xbox like hot cakes. It would keep users invested in Windows as a platform rather than them moving to Linux or macOS. It’s such a waste of potential.

    They’re far too stupid to realize that.

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    • kadu@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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  • Eggyhead@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah I probably would never have even gotten into gaming if it weren’t for consoles. PC games are fun, but gaming on a PC is not for everybody.

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    • kadu@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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• Aielman15@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Okay, but are the users still committed to buying them?

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  • kratoz29@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean, is that a real problem for Microsoft today?

    I think Xbox is in its stronger times, so much that I actually want one lol

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    • Aielman15@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Considering that estimates have PS5 outselling XSeries by 2:1 (also confirmed by semi-official data), and XSeries doing worse than its predecessor, I’d say: yes, it’s a very real problem for them.

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• Defaced@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The only reason they want their games on multiple platforms is so they can prove they’re not trying to buy up studios for exclusivity. This is the main objective here folks. They don’t care about being on more than one platform, they just don’t want to fight the FTC again when they try to buy up sega, square enix, take2, embracer or whoever the fuck they want to buy next. Remember, this is the same arrogant bullshit company that wanted to buy Nintendo and got laughed out of the conference room.

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• comrade19@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I wish they would let you install windows on them, but then i guess id be buying games on steam not Microsoft store / gamepass

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• ULS@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The should make Linux boxes.

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  • simple@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Xbox is Microsoft so that’ll literally never happen. They could make Windows 11 boxes though.

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    • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Xbox is Microsoft so that’ll literally never happen.

      Microsoft already uses Linux and in fact even develops its own Linux distribution since quite some time because Windows just isn’t good enough for certain tasks: github.com/microsoft/CBL-Mariner

      Surface Duo is another Linux-based product by Microsoft.

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