Cannon has gotten so bad, that I can’t remember what printer brand I hated before them. I am pretty sure it was cannon though.
HP raising Instant Ink subscription pricing significantly
Submitted 11 months ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.ghacks.net/2023/12/20/hp-raising-instant-ink-subscription-pricing-significantly/
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cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 11 months ago
gregorum@lemm.ee 11 months ago
too bad. they used to be petty good
AA5B@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I hate hearing that about Canon. I’ve always been a big fan and they used to be the reasonable ones. Of course my printer is a bit older, to the extent that it’s not supported in Windows 11, and it’s off my list for any future printers
n3m37h@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Oh Brother, where art thou?
Rentlar@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Yeah, I had a Canon BW laser printer that has chugged along and gave no complaints with a toner cartridge I paid $20 for a 3-pack. Another family member has inherited it but hearing the fact they are stepping up their DRM leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
ironeagl@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
The cheapest plan is .10 euro a month per page if you only print 10 pages. (.99 euro, max 10 pages). Just pay a library or kinkos at that point!
0uterzenith@lemmy.world 11 months ago
they charge you PER PAGE??!
ironeagl@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
No, you get billed X euro per month, which gives you the “right” to print up to X pages each month. Even worse.
magikmw@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Good, HP finally running their printer businesses into the ground. Paperless or bust.
DaddleDew@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Subscription-based hardware business models, or anything that is cloud-based have a strong tendency to do this. They sucker you into buying their hardware with rock bottom prices and reasonable subscription fees and slowly they increase the prices and put more and more features and functionalities behind increasing paywalls.
Never buy anything that you don’t fully own after paying for it.
HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Laughs in Epson Ecotank
derpgon@programming.dev 11 months ago
laughs in off-brand toner sitting in my Brother
overzeetop@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Laughs in BizHub color laser copier that fell off a truck
DeepGradientAscent@programming.dev 11 months ago
This is the way.
PurpleTentacle@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Until the software counter decides that the waste ink pad is full and the thing blows a software fuse.
Epson’s official solution to a full pad is to throw out your printer and buy a new one - literally a printer with a self destruct timer. Not very “eco”.
sirfancy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Cursory research about this seems you can replace it yourself for $10. Are you sure about this?
phoneymouse@lemmy.world 11 months ago
We solved printing decades ago. What’s the need to constantly add more complexity in pricing? Why does the impact printing?
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
We’ve had some major breakthroughs in gouging and selling things as a service at exorbitant rates.
grue@lemmy.world 11 months ago
We’ve had some major breakthroughs in regulatory capture of the FTC.
zib@kbin.social 11 months ago
Maybe you should think a little more about the shareholders and little less about yourself. /s
DessertStorms@kbin.social 11 months ago
It's called capitalism, and it relies on constant and infinite growth, which is impossible, but that's not going to stop those making all the money from trying (until the whole thing collapses on us all while they hide out in their bunker).
knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
*aas run amok.
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
dell
lilsolar@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
brother
pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I pity the fool that doesn’t listen to the Hulkster.
roofuskit@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Anything corporations think you can’t do without will be raised until enough people have no choice but to stop buying them, then they’ll hold it there.
gregorum@lemm.ee 11 months ago
omg, fuck these guys
limelight79@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I use Instant Ink in the US, and I haven’t received an email about a price increase.
I know no one wants to hear this, based on past experience, but I’ll say it anyway: The plan has worked fine for us. Our ink costs went from $60-$80/year to $12. The printer works fine, too; we’ve not had any problems with it. Obviously we don’t print a ton, but we do print enough that we want to have a printer. If we did print a ton of stuff, I’d definitely go a different direction than Instant Ink, but for our light use, it works fine.
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 11 months ago
If you were paying $60/year to print, I’d say you were printing a lot.
That’s as much as I ever paid for a printer. I have two currently, a BW laser and a color. Paid $50 for the color used…its 2 years old.
Just can’t see wasting money in inkjets with their issues.
Kushan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I actually have a HP printer with instant ink. When it first launched it was great, there was a “free” tier that was like up to 10 pages free per month.
I don’t print a lot but like having a printer for the odd job so that was ideal for me. Now and again a new ink cartridge would arrive and I just didn’t think about it.
But they took away the free tier, so I’ve been on that £0.99 plan which is like 15 pages a month. I put up with it because it was convenient enough to not have to worry about ink, but I was still pissed off at the rug pull.
If they do raise the price in the UK, I’ll just sell the printer and buy a new one that does super cheap ink.
Any recommendations out there?
PurpleTentacle@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Inkjet is pretty much terrible for anyone printing very little (more ink wasted on cleaning cycles than actually printing, high chance that the ink dries up regardless) and very much (stupidly expensive and unreliable).
If you don’t need color, get a cheap b/w laser printer. Brother used to be one of the last good ones until they, too, decided to block third party cartridges via firmware updates last year.
If you can get an old, used, Brother laser printer for cheap, go for it - they were borderline indestructible and would print with any cheap toner.
thoughts3rased@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
Damn, and I thought brother was gonna keep riding out being good until the bitter end
PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Thats why I like ecotanks. Cant block a bottle.
Docus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I have two Epson ecotank printers, one at home and one for small business. Not cheap, but the ink that comes with the printer lasts for years. That is at 30 pages a month or so. Avoid all inkjet printers with replaceable ink cartridges.
georgette@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I have a Epson printer and the damn thing can only be setup through their official app, which requires location services to be enabled. It also refuses to print documents from any device that doesn’t have the Epson app installed.
Never buy a printer without a USB cable.
KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If you don’t really need color, just buy a laser printer.
if you need color, the epson ecotank line is great. they do also have a counter that stops the entire printer after around 18000 pages, but it can be reset with 3rd party software and a 10$ software key. the purge tank for cleaning the nozzle fills up, so just take it out, wash the sponge and reset the counter. idk if newer models still have that counter.
Aceticon@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If you live in or near a city, taking a USB stick with the docs to print to a print shop is probably the best option if you print very little - you even just “print to PDF” at home and take only that file to have the flexibility to print just the stuff you want the way you want it.
Kushan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Unfortunately that is not a workable solution to me, but I appreciate that it’s the best idea for most.
Raxiel@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m in the same boat. I lost the free plan because we had to print a lot more during homeschooling that made sense to go up a couple of tiers for a month. Been on the £0.99 tier since. Didn’t mind it because we do still use it occasionally and one time the nozzels on cart dried up and it got replaced at HP’s expense.
So I don’t hate instant ink, but only at it’s current price. If it gets jacked up I’ll probably just buy ordinary carts and take my chances on it clogging again. I can still nip into the office if I need a one off print, this one is just convenient.
Tosti@feddit.nl 11 months ago
/Shocked pickachu face.
Get 'em hooked, make 'em pay.billwashere@lemmy.world 11 months ago
HP taking business ideas from Elon I see.
“The beatings will continue until moral improves”
teamevil@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Epson Eco tank to F HP’s bullshit in the A.
jayandp@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I got one during Black Friday years ago and it came with so much extra ink that I still haven’t bought more ink for it 😅
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 11 months ago
HP is like the facebook of printers. Hugely popular; absolute shit product.
ares35@kbin.social 11 months ago
the article sorta implies that only 'hp+' denies use of third-party cartridges for life of the printer.. but just plain 'instant ink' subs do, too, through mandatory automatic firmware updates to the printer that will immediately install a firmware update with 'dynamic security' that blocks all but 'genuine' oem cartridges.
phillaholic@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Good. Stop printing.
ccunix@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Do they still do the free tier that gives 10 pages a month?
50% of 0 == 0 :)
SeeJayEmm@lemmy.procrastinati.org 11 months ago
No, that’s 0.99 and going up to a buck fifty.
Sanctus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Phase printers the fuck out already. No, we dont absolutely need paper in every office.
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
[deleted]Sanctus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Thats great, mine do the same with blank pages.
Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 11 months ago
After 15 years of having to buy a new ink printer almost every year. We just bought an entry level laser printer. Same printer for 20 years now. Never even changed the toner yet. Was a huge upfront cost of 300$ compared to the 100$ ink jets, but man is it ever nice to just completely forget your printer exists until you hit print button, grab your document, then go back to completely forgetting you own a printer. Never have to put any thought or effort into it. Just sits there always being ready and fully functional.
jrbaconcheese@yall.theatl.social 11 months ago
I fortunately only did a inkjets for 3-4 years before I went laser. I even bought a second toner cartridge at the same time! 15 years later, I actually used the 2nd cartridge-the printer is still going (albeit it seems it may only last another 5-10 years).
hahattpro@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Too bad, you can either use expensive ink, or use expensive subscription.
0uterzenith@lemmy.world 11 months ago
or other printer
triclops6@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
This! Get your ink from Ali Express and live your best life.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 11 months ago
You can pry my EcoTank from my cold, dead hands.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
I’m going to poke the hive.
I actually have zero issues with my HP laser printer, and I’ve never been pestered to use their Ink/Toner subscription service.
It’s only a hassle if you choose to use it?
They’re a fucking shitty company, sure agreed, but last I checked (unless it’s specific models that I’m unaware of which require it) it’s still a service you have to choose to use. If you don’t choose to use it… you can just buy ink and toner normally, like I do.
It took me almost two years to run out of toner from the date of purchase. I don’t print a lot.
beyondthegrave@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I choose to use Instant Ink because I don’t print a lot and it still beats buying the carts. HP ships them to be for free and automatically before I run out and gives me return postage for the empties to be recycled.
They also don’t have different rates for B/W and Color so I just print everything in color.
I dont stress over $1/mo (or $1.50/mo if this increase hits me). I’ve had this printer for 2yrs on the cheapest plan and I’ve still not paid the full price of a set of cartridges.
I’m sure I’ll be down votes for saying anything positive about the program but whatever. It works fine for me.
neanderthal@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Unless you REALLY need color, just buy a Brother BW laser printer. Toner doesn’t dry up. It is all but guaranteed to be the cheapest option. I bought the scanner BW laser printer combo like 8 years ago for $130.
Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I have not had to print anything in a long time. A long time. What are people printing?
Figureinplastic@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You don’t print out memes to put on your fridge like everyone else?
cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I tattoo memes onto the inside of my eyelids for maximum exposure.
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Shipping labels, legal documents, receipts, and more. Just because 99% of things can be done digitally, doesn’t mean the 1% stops existing.
Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Hmm. I guess whenever I need to ship something, the place I go prints the label. Most recently UPS printed and packaged a Steamdeck I shipped to my nephew. If it’s going back to Amazon I just take the item to Kohls and they handle it. The receipts and more…I just show the email with the QR code if I’m returning something to Home Depot or Best Buy.
It’s crazy, I really have no need for a printer for the past …god. It’s been forever.
Dozzi92@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Color by numbers for the kids. Got a LaserJet though and I use that website that sells bootleg yet serviceable toner cartridges.
Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That sounds like a good use. For me, my kids are dogs. If I print things out for them to color they just chew them up. Speaking of receipts, somehow one of them got ahold of one today. I chased him and he escaped under the bed, to chew at his leisure.
Artaca@lemdro.id 10 months ago
Damn. I don’t print much, but I did get my HP printer dirt cheap. Wish there was some sort of hack around this.
Tarkcanis@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Did… did they suffer some head trauma?
thegreekgeek@midwest.social 11 months ago
Well color me shocked.
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
WashedOver@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
You Dawg, that’s still a big FU! HP for me…
arin@lemmy.world 11 months ago
HP selling hardware with digital blackmail fees