I still feel like an idiot for buying this game. What a waste of money
Starfield will get city maps and "new ways of traveling" next year
Submitted 11 months ago by Demigodrick@lemmy.zip to [deleted]
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/starfield-will-get-city-maps-and-new-ways-of-traveling-next-year
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distantsounds@lemmy.world 11 months ago
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The trailers were awesome, and the hype was intense, so it’s understandable.
distantsounds@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Right?! it’s checks more than enough boxes…if only it delivered it
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I got it for free with my video card, and I still wish I could refund it, lol.
sirico@feddit.uk 11 months ago
Don’t worry guys modders will fix it for the corporation for free.
Wooki@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Blaming modders is small epeen.
Preordered customers were the problem. Don’t preorder anything.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Don’t preorder anything.
Never gonna stop.
There may be individuals like you and me who refuse to engage in these stupid practices.
but on the whole, gamers are blind, greedy idiots that’ll continue to throw money at companies for their next golden turd, even while complaining about how much of a terrible ripoff the current golden turd is.
Aermis@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Sure. Modders will do what they do. If all you paid for was the platform then fine. Bethesda knows who they cater to. I put over 1000 hours into skyrim over the years in some of the best fun I’ve had due to mods and content. I didn’t subscribe to Bethesda monthly plan. I bought skyrim once. No other game had that platform for a modding community. If Bethesda didn’t embrace the modding community that would be the end of them.
And yeah no excuse for selling an out of box poorly made game, but I’m optimistic that I’ll enjoy the hell out of this game once creation engine is out. I’ve already put 250 hours into it without the mods. 6/10 experience.
Fades@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I agree but there is big fucking difference between embracing the modding community and offloading work to said community
Secret300@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I really think they should’ve just focused on 1 solar system and had some procedurally generated planets outside of it. Maybe a quest line where they were colonizing one or something. They said they purposely made worlds empty to feel the loneliness of space. They could’ve done that and focused on at least 1 planet then
Aermis@lemmy.world 11 months ago
But they aren’t empty… All of them have points of interest and they’re all chosen from the same lot of 40 or so. Even the planet that was supposed to be abandoned because the terrormorphs took over, if you go outside the one (small) “city” all of a sudden there’s a pirate space yard fully functioning and inhabited by pirates. And the POI is as big as the supposed iced over city
dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Meaningless features are analogous to empty worlds.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 11 months ago
My favorite thing was landing on moons with no atmosphere and still running into rain and thunderstorms.
on a moon/planet.
with zero atmosphere.
trustnoone@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
Agreed, I think when everyone heard the number of planets, it’s was like eeegh I don’t think that will work.
Fwiw it might work if you flew from planet to planet, and you for example got a distress call from a random planet nearby to help settlers against mercenaries and the like. So that it happened on your way to another planet and gave you a reason to stop your ship and go down, check it out and help. and every once in a while you stumble on a unique one with story to it.
lemmylommy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Will it get fun?
CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 11 months ago
To those saying that mods will fix this game, I have no hopes for that. People don’t love this game like they do TES or fallout. Why mod for a game you don’t even like? No mods are coming to save this game. Improve? Sure. They’ll make it passable I guess.
And as a user, I’m excited to mod these games because it takes a stale 6/10 game and makes it into a new 9/10 game for me. But imagine modding a 4/10 game to get to a 7/10. Those hours of research for what? Something that you know can’t get better after you’re done. This game is dead as dead. Even to me, a patient gamer.
To all those people thinking they’ll revive this, Bethesda doesn’t work that way. It’d change their whole workflow and delay TES6 by a year or more to fix this. They don’t fix games post launch on this scale. They don’t move that fast either. They aren’t CDPR.
This game is DOA and I don’t look forward to it in my backlog. It’s disappointing but I don’t have any faith left in Bethesda. They’re scummy and a barely functional developer at this point.
OrangeCorvus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I don’t know, I quite like the game. I wouldn’t rank it 4/10, more like a 7/10. I might be impartial because I love the space theme. Was never a big Skyrim fan because I am not big on fantasy.
From my point of view the game has big potential to be expanded upon and since Bethesda rarely releases games, I think they will improve it. I mean look at Fallout 76, it was in shambles and they kept working on it, sure it different since it’s a live game but still.
Don’t really get the CDPR comparisons and why they are back to being praised. They revamped the perks, added police and made some qol fixes, it’s the same shallow, not really a RPG game. Hate that people use Cyberpunk as an example, the game is already abandoned. Use No Man’s Sky if you want to make a comparison.
CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I was mostly going based on steam percentages. I don’t think a game below 50% on steam will have a vibrant modding community willing to fix the game.
And CDPR moves quickly compared to Bethesda and even they couldn’t finish fixing their game. CDPR also has a lot more resources prepared for this game and they have a differently mentality. Bethesda hasn’t been treating their consumer well for awhile and they don’t have the speed or resources to fix this quickly.
Basically, I have no hopes for this game being fixed. I’m sure it will be improved, but I doubt it’ll get to a 7/10 on steam or elsewhere. Im glad that you may have enjoyed it but Bethesda will likely move on.
regulatorg@discuss.online 11 months ago
Glad they haven’t abandoned it at least , thankfully I haven’t bought it yet waiting for it to get better
FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Starfield doesn’t feel unique really. There’s probably thousands of decent space games out there already, No Man’s Sky, Everspace, EVE, Elite Dangerous etc.
Like Fallout was unique and beautiful. There aren’t any other third person post apocalyptic RPGs with as much style or substance as Fallout. Sure the game is janky but it can be forgiven because the style, story and atmosphere made up for it.
However, Starfield just feels like Skyrim in space which isn’t enough of an upgrade to make things interesting. Most of the quests are just going over and back to talk to people. The NPCs feel weird and uncanny valley like, the planets are mostly boring and there are just far too many loading screens.
Nakey Jakeys video on this recently was a great summary of the game.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Like Fallout was unique and beautiful. There aren’t any other third person post apocalyptic RPGs with as much style or substance as Fallout. Sure the game is janky but it can be forgiven because the style, story and atmosphere made up for it.
Metro?
dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Too many loading screens. Too many visible seams from the ancient Creation Engine. Game looks like it’s held together with duct tape.
I’m good.
Alchalide@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I liked the game and got it for free with my cpu. I played it for about 120 hours, but when Steam asks me if I would recommend… I simply can’t. Every criticism is mostly true and I don’t think BGS is going to improve the game anytime soon.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Eh, make it cheaper. I’m still not going to buy it for that rediculous launch price. Games are almost NEVER great at launch these days. The price goes down, and the bugs go away if you just wait a bit.
qwertyWarlord@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Great, that’s FAR from what they need to do to this game though. I actually like the game so I’m going to be optimistic here. The number 1 biggest thing they can do to instantly improve it is change the way exploration works. Beef up the number of locations significantly, spread them out, make it so you need to ‘find’, or scan them and add unique rewards or more interesting lore to find. Next they need to totally overhaul the planets so they’re more extreme and conditions do something to you. I have never ever used a single condition clearing item in the game because there’s literally no need. Another thing would be to change the way fast travel works so you can’t just instantly go places, at the very least make fuel cost credits or something but adding actual fuel you need to get at ports or encounters along the way like solar storms or something would vastly improve it
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 11 months ago
the game will have people that play it, but I dont think it’ll ever be a good game, and I don’t think it’ll reach what Fallout/Skyrim is.
Theres just to many problems with the very core aspects of the game, and no matter what they throw at it… I don’t think anything less than a full FFXIV A Realm Reborn treatment will be able to address the critical core design flaws in the foundations of the game.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 months ago
Making a prediction now that “new ways of travel” are just going to be more fast travel points like the useless metro system on Atlantis.
simple@lemm.ee 11 months ago
“New ways of traveling” sounds so vague… So is it going to be land vehicles on planets or better ways to fast travel or something else?
Rentlar@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
New ways of traveling:
Stovetop@lemmy.world 11 months ago
A thruster pack that only works backwards.
xmunk@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Let the bunny hopping commence.
evdo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
The Alucard module
maxenmajs@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It has to work in their creation engine. Probably not a land vehicle unless it functions like a horse.
Graphine@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If they seriously don’t add any types of ground vehicles I’m going to laugh. At that point it’ll be blatantly obvious how shitty their engine is.
rhombus@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
It’ll be like the train in Fallout 3, i.e an NPC with a rover for a head.
Deceptichum@kbin.social 11 months ago
So it’ll be a horse skinned as a BigDog style robot?
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 months ago
But I want a space horse
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s just going to be different loading screens while fast traveling
NoneYa@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I wonder if they will try copying Cyberpunk’s latest update with a spaceship taxi of some sort? Or random people who will “space Uber” you to your destination.
Blamemeta@lemm.ee 11 months ago
The frontier mod for new vegas managed proper cars, so maybe?
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Never played frontier, but saw a few videos the cars were…rather janky from what i’ve seen in the videos.
Which is probably better than what bethesda could hope to do, lol.