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Elon Musk vows ‘thermonuclear lawsuit’ as advertisers flee X over antisemitism::Tesla founder threatens to take action against media watchdog ‘the split second court opens on Monday’
You can’t sue people for deciding NOT to give you more money, idiot
He’s not suing the advertisers, he’s suing a watchdog who’s pointing out all the antisemitism and whatnot, which causes the advertisers to flee because in his world, none of it is bad.
Unless Musk gets a hearing in front of a judge who exposes his own sympathy to fascism, I can’t see this case going anywhere. The truth is an absolute defense to libel.
Yes advertisers are only publicly insulted not sued : “Many of the largest advertisers are the greatest oppressors of your right to free speech.”
I suppose that’s meant to inspire confidence they will not be sued, only slightly bullied if they come back.
“The split second court opens on Monday, X Corp will be filing a thermonuclear lawsuit against Media Matters and all those who colluded in this fraudulent attack on our company.”
Discovery time. Let’s see what Musk is texting to his friends.
I love a good discovery.
Can we get a discovery channel special that details everything revealed during this discovery?
The best part is discovery will include the tweet he promoted and agreed with along with his promotion and agreement, which is what he is saying is a lie.
This is one of those cases where even if he wins he loses. Who would want to sell ads anymore?
Well, even if he has no intention of winning, the simple act of filing will cost any named watchdog media group money. I doubt too many are swimming in it.
That’s why there are SLAPP-back laws.
He’s also got a habit of ignoring legal advice and running his mouth in public, so he’s likely going to end up writing another big check for that misadventure if his lawyers can’t talk him out of going through with it
Tesla founder
Ok look The Independent, I know that the company says he’s a founder and Wikipedia lists him as a founder, but he’s not. Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning founded the company almost a full year before Musk had anything to do with it. He had to sue them to add his name to the list officially.
Wikipedia lists him as a founder
Does it? I expected better of Wikipedia, so I checked, and both Musk’s page and Tesla’s avoid simply listing him as a founder by explaining the situation, i.e., that he was an early investor. Even the sidebar for Tesla, Inc. just links to a subsection rather than listing names.
Just a note to add:
It’s a very common piece of misinformation that he was determined to be a founder in a court of law. That never happened. It was part of an agreement to avoid a lawsuit. It’s a lie that the relevant parties could all live with as part of a larger settlement.
I like to ask Musk apologists, “Do you need to found a company to be that company’s founder, yes or no?” If they waffle or say “no,” there’s no point continuing in good faith, because they’re not serious people. It’s not hard to say “Okay, that’s a bit of a fib, he should be called an honorary founder, but blah blah blah…” But if they can’t even do that, then they aren’t operating based on reality.
But what is reality? Is it vijñapti-mātra?
I will respond to this by asking “is registering the name of a company the only thing that counts when founding a company?”
Because that’s what the original founders did. They registered the name. No patents, no designs, no engineering, no staff. They registered the name, then went searching for VC money.
Ok, it sounds like you’re trying real hard to split hairs.
Not just the company itself and Wikipedia, but legally, he is a founder. That was the outcome of the lawsuit.
It’s true that the first 2 founders legally registered the corporate entity known as “Tesla Motors”. Then for the next year, they didn’t do jack shit involving anything automotive… they were just going around looking for investors.
Musk was basically their first, and biggest, investor. They didn’t actually hire any engineers or, you know, actually start doing anything until Musk’s money came into play.
The rule of law in a specific geographic area in a specific period of time isn’t nearly as important as the meaning conveyed which is misleading.
Rather than missing the forest for the trees, why might he push for the title of founder? Why might some discredit his efforts and tactics in assuming the founder of title in specific contexts?
He did not play a meaningful role in the beginning of the company and is not responsible for its success. Money was responsible, the two founders’ expertise was responsible, that specific person is not special enough for their contribution to matter much. Anyone can supply capital especially during the inflated economic conditions (of which we are suffering the consequences of now) and during the time where EV and technology at large was developed enough to allow such developments to take place.
So much for the free market and the ability to choose 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Sure, do it, Elon. Anything to make advertisers feel safer.
There is absolutely nothing related to technology with this. Twitter is not a tech company. They produce no tech. They’re a social media company.
No, they’re an advertising company.
You (users) pay musk to display your original created content on his platform, your content is then used to attract companies that pay musk so they can display adverts to people reading your original content.
Curious, how do you access Twitter?
Is the implication that any business you access via a web browser or app is a tech company? Boy do I have news for you about literally every business
I do not access it.
I don’t know what their current level of public contribution is, but there was a time where they put out some pretty popular OSS like pants / pex and bootstrap. In any case I think it is pretty common to consider social media platforms themselves to be technology. I get your meaning though, but there are many posts much further over the obviously-not-tech line then this.
How else are you going to fight against people like Elon except by talking about them constantly and making sure not a day goes by that they’re not on the front page of every social media site and news outlet? Worked so great with Trump too.
Seriously, My entire feed is just Musk, Trump and Biden.
Free speech absolutist, got it.
Unless he disagrees with you
I’d imagine it would be rather easy to to prove wether that claim is true or not; show screenshots of said posts with these advertisements next to them.
They did in the article he’s suing over.
That pretty much settles it as far as I’m concerned.
To be clear, is he in hot water over what he said about the ADL? Or the fact that Nazi’s are proliferating on his platform and advertisers don’t like it?
Nothing to see here. He definitely isn’t suing them because he wants large advertisers like Dosney on the platform and to be able to say the worst shit imaginable at the same time. Clearly nothing to see, obviously. /s
This isn’t technology news… It’s business news, and Elon spam.
Can we not put the bar on the floor?
Judge asks the hypernuclear question: “Have you tried NOT catering to Nazi’s and racists?”
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. This is all a part of his plan to bankrupt the Twitter.
He has to pretend he is trying to make the business profitable, while sinking the ship in the process.
He owes more in interest than Twitter makes in profit.
The company is worth less than a half of what it he bought it for. He can’t even sell it and break even, there would be a 20 billion dollar loss
That’s just you, with intelligence, trying to explain what he, without intelligence, is doing. You’re projecting intelligence on him because he won capitalism, and Capitalism wants you to think it’s because of merit. It isn’t, he’s an idiot. Look at the name of his child… Do you think this is a person with foresight?
Or, he’s just a bit of an idiot.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by neglect, ignorance or incompetence
I agree with you. I think twitter was as good for progressives as it was for nazis and Elon and others couldn’t have that. The fact that we’re not discussing this on Twitter and not even on Reddit, but on this beautiful but obscure platform, showd it all works well for the nazis.
Do it, you coward. Bet you won’t because you’re a fraidy cat that listens to his entirely rational law team.
Meanwhile Media Matters are absolutely salivating over the thought of what they can get in discovery. Never sue journalists unless you’re really comfortable giving them unfettered access to your server logs, internal communications, and much, much more.
“Thermonuclear” you mean the word you used during one of your (many) most embarrassing public failure moments when the glass shattered?
This is going to be the best discovery since Einstein figured out how to put bubbles in beer.
“You’ve actually split the atom?” “It was just a Tasmanian beer atom”
Omg. Yahoo serious. Thanks for the reminder
Thank you for getting my very dated reference.
“Telling people what I do in highly visible public spaces is a violation of my rights in some way that I haven’t figured out yet. Everyone has to like me and tell me what a cool guy I am. It’s the law.”
Let it crash and burn. Fuck twitter.
The only good thing StinkyElon has done with it was reveal the twitter files to the world.
Everything else he did to it was shit.
We aren’t being censored here. We can say pedophile.
We can also say we should bring back guillotines for billionaires.
We can also say Nazis deserve to be shot.
Seriously get out of the reddit/YouTube/Twitter mindset. You can use words without worrying it might flag up some algorithms
We can also say Nazis deserve to be shot.
I wouldn’t shoot them. I’d show them things that undermine what they believe. That’s what the allied forces did to all the axis solders that were captured.
Uhh, good luck with that. The free market taketh, the free market taketh away.
Maybe he’s going to sue himself and split his ego, creating mini Elon Musk egos that will themselves sue themselves, creating a chain reaction until eventually the whole legal system is so saturated by it that they just succumb to him.
From what I see Media Matters said ads were placed against antisemitic / racist posts and then Twitter confirmed it. So wtf is the lawsuit even about??? Twitter tried to cast it as “free speech” or that these ads were a fraction of their total but the reality is they happened. So all I see happening if Twitter goes ahead with a lawsuit is a) they get anti-SLAPPed back to where they were or b) they go to trial and get screwed by discovery and reality. In a way I hope they don’t get the anti-SLAPP since discovery would kill them.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Elon Musk has vowed to file a “thermonuclear lawsuit” against a US media watchdog that claimed adverts were appearing on X alongside antisemitic posts, as major brands including Disney and Apple fled the platform.
Watchdog group Media Matters for America said earlier this week that it had found that corporate advertisements for IBM, Apple, Oracle and Comcast’s Xfinity were being placed alongside antisemitic content on X, formerly known as Twitter.
Disney, Warner Bros Discovery and Comcast, Lions Gate Entertainment and Paramount Global are also pausing their ads on X. Axios reported that Apple would do the same.
The Tesla founder added in a second post: “The split second court opens on Monday, X Corp will be filing a thermonuclear lawsuit against Media Matters and all those who colluded in this fraudulent attack on our company.”
“Far from the free speech advocate he claims to be, Musk is a bully who threatens meritless lawsuits in an attempt to silence reporting that he even confirmed is accurate,” Mr Carusone said.
“It is unacceptable to repeat the hideous lie behind the most fatal act of antisemitism in American history at any time, let alone one month after the deadliest day for the Jewish people since the Holocaust,” the White House said in a statement.
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He’s kind of a dork, isn’t he.
This doesn’t feel like tech news to me
Threats always fix everything, it shows how stable and introspective you are!
Legal news in a tech community?
But it’s about Elon Musk who owns Starlink and space X so it’s tech by proxy
If you go by that logic then all news belongs here. Everything is tangentially connected to tech, it’s 2023.
Good luck Musky lol
Boy, this is gonna be fun!
So frivolous, got it [mind tap guy meme]
Ah, I see, he finally came out of his conman closet and is ready to go full con.
Additional_Prune@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s not just a lawsuit, it’s thermonuclear lawsuit! His lawyers better handle it carefully, lest they be blown into itty bitty pieces. Elon stopped maturing at about the age of fourteen.
257m@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
That my friend, is a insult to 14 year olds.
nintendiator@feddit.cl 11 months ago
Have you seen 14 year olds? These days, many of them are much like Musk.
limitedduck@awful.systems 11 months ago
Elon’s going death con 3