Steam Deck OLED announced

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨farcaster@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.steamdeck.com/en/oled

New OLED screen. New APU. And lots of small hardware improvements.

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simple@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Hahaha, they kept trying to convince people again and again that there will NOT be a hardware refresh any time soon. That was only a few months ago.

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- MHLoppy@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  They were careful with how they phrased it, leaving the possibility of a refresh without a performance uplift still on the table (as speculated by media). It looks like the OLED model's core performance will be only marginally better due to faster RAM, but that the APU itself is the same thing with a process node shrink (which improves efficiency a little).
  
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  - Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    The effiency part becomes a larger feature if it’s a mobile device…
    
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- bus_factor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Well yeah, otherwise it will end up like Atari. No sales for the first one because everyone is waiting for the next one.
  
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  - ewe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    It’s smart. Also, developers have a solid benchmark to set their games to. Console has long had the benefit of a stable hardware set over the course of many years, which makes it easier to develop to the broadest possible market. Skipping incremental APU updates has a benefit of keeping a longer benchmark for game developers hoping to boost sales by targeting the market with handhelds.
    
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- Pure_Decimation@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I received my deck yesterday 😭
  
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  - David_Eight@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Return it 🤷🏻. I’m sure they have some 30 day return window.
    
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  - jukibom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Oof. I had mine about 6 weeks but that stings lol
    
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- TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Yeah I was burned and I’m kinda salty about it.
  
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- helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  That’s not what happened at all. They said they would not be releasing a higher performance version anytime soon. This is just a refresh. Like a Steam Deck 1.8
  
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NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Just a few tips for people:

I got a 512 LCD at launch prices. I have zero regrets. It is awesome when I go on travel but also great for just hanging out around the house. And while the price is considerably higher than a switch (less so if you go for the entry level pricing), you save a LOT on games since Nintendo Pricing tends to translate to third parties over there too.

Will probably “trade in” my current model some time next year for the 512 OLED. 1 TB is tempting, but I have a desktop too. So installing and uninstalling games are almost all network transfers that go really fast because I generally am also playing those games on my desktop. Or even just keeping them installed there because I have the extra storage.

As for trading in: Be INCREDIBLY wary of using ebay. Ebay has incredibly good buyer protections at the cost of almost zero seller protections. If someone receives it and then says “Didn’t arrive, go fuck yourself” they get their money back and ebay/paypal will basically tell you to take it up with local police… who won’t do shit because ACAB. So stick to local exchanges (and follow all best practices for that) or just keep an eye out for the inevitable amazon or best buy trade in programs. You’ll get less, but also will have almost zero stress.

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- Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Not really true. Just cover your ass with paper.
  Had a buyer try to get away with cd-laser not working but I explicitly wrote that in the description (and not in a tiny font). So at the end I won.
  
  It was about 50€…
  
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  - QuarterSwede@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    That has nothing to do with a buyer claiming they never received the item or even just the correct item. Very hard to prove in eBay’s system.
    
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DingoBilly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Great. Can you fucking release it in Australia now? Fuck Valve and its support here.

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- BustlingChungus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Yeah ikr. Feels like they’re still pissed at us for our ACCC taking them to task for not offering refunds here
  
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  - Lesrid@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Meanwhile Gaben said he fell in love with New Zealand while he was stranded there during the pandemic. Shame he couldn’t confuse the two.
    
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- demonsword@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  no official Steam Deck available on Brazil too :/
  
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  - figaro@lemdro.id ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Wouldn’t they need to build it in Brazil, otherwise the tarifs would make it prohibitively expensive?
    
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  - Kraivo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Got myself a steamdeck in russia via aunty from US. Probably best thing to play some games i always wanted to play but was lazy to invest time
    
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- nihth@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Norway too please 😢
  
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- Anonymousllama@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  They’re a bunch of cunts, pretty par for the course when it comes to getting technology here (without having to grayimport it and roll the dice on warranties)
  
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cmhe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
What I really like is that they double down on hackabilty by switching to metal torx screws, etc.

That, and a Linux system are IMO the main selling points of the SteamDeck, compared to any clones from Asus or Lenovo, etc.

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- thlcn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  What, are their screws not metal?!
  
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  - NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    They are mostly (all?) metal.
    
    Torx head are preferred for smaller screws because it is a lot easier to strip the heads with a phillips. Mostly because you can use too big or too small of a phillips head with a screw which means you don’t have a good fit and are going to mangle it. Whereas a torx is very much “one size fits one size”.
    
    But also? If you actually pay attention to the video/read the article and are not a complete monster, you will use a ph0 instead of a ph1 or whatever and that stops being an issue. But it makes people happier and maps better to the ridiculously expensive electronics screwdrivers (cough, lmg, cough) that come with a very narrow set of bits rather than assuming people shell out almost the exact same amount of money for an ifixit kit that has dozens of bits. Or, you know, people who realize their local hardware store also sells bits.
    
    The real advantage is that it sounds like Valve are moving away from self tapping screws. Explaining those is well beyond my brain, but it boils down to the idea that they cut/grind/clomp through plastic to hold themselves in place. That is why Valve have made it very clear that disassembling and reassembling your Steam Deck will lower thermal performance and durability. The screws won’t go in as tight as they used to and, if you do it enough, they won’t hold at all. If you ever were reassembling something and the screw just kind of spun freely, that is likely the cause.
    
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  - cmhe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    When you buy “wood screws” that doesn’t mean that the screws are made of wood, it means they go into wood.
    
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peopleproblems@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Ok, this has me hyped because it also implies further iterations.

At not wildly inflating costs. I love my deck, so I can’t wait to see the next iteration :).

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- wolre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Jup, love that the price is not just not being increased with upgraded specs, the remaining stock of the old Steam Deck variants is actually being significantly discounted.
  
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- Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Steam Deck is 1.5 years old and im excited for a new iteration!
  
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  - helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    It’s closer to 2 years old.
    
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- David_Eight@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Definitely, every other piece of Valve hardware has been one and done. I figured valve would cut the Steam Deck since other companies have entered the market.
  
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  - helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Well also every other piece of Valve hardware has largely been a dud.
    
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paddirn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I think the real question here is, what will the exhaust vent smell like? Have they improved on the aroma?

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- sjkhgsi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  How can you improve perfection?
  
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- univers3man@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I’m not the only one!
  
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- AlecSadler@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Is this a thing? I don’t own a steam deck so I can’t tell if you’re kidding…
  
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  - paddirn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I own a Steam Deck and I’m not even sure what people are talking about with it, I’ve not really smelled anything coming from mine (which would probably have me more worried than delighted), but apparently it’s a thing amongst some owners.
    
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TheRealCharlesEames@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Please announce a trade in program, Valve. Don’t make me use eBay.

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- TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  For real. I bought recently and I love it but would’ve absolutely waited had they not promised there wouldn’t be a refresh around the corner. Kinda fumed, Valve thought you were my choom.
  
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wolre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Thinking about finally getting one. The 512GB OLED does look very good…

I also wonder if they’re ever going to have a non-handheld console (essentially a revamped Steam Machine). I’ve heard a bunch about people building PCs and running Holo ISO on there as a console replacement, might make sense to have an official solution from Valve.

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- vox@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  steam deck can already be used as a non-handheld machine.
  and if you need one, get a pc.
  
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  - wolre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Sure, but the form factor of the Steam Deck will always limit performance and carry some extra cost with it. And for a large user base installing another OS on a PC (Holo ISO) is something they are not going to do. Hence, Steam Machine.
    
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- helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  
  I also wonder if they’re ever going to have a non-handheld console
  
  Seems unlikely. You can use the Deck as a (very weak) console, if you really want to. I just don’t think it makes sense for PC gamers, as most of them are choosy about their hardware.
  
  HoloISO, last I checked, was not updated for a loooong time, but we do have ChimeraOS and Bazzite, which are similar projects, and hopefully one day Valve will release a “general use” SteamOS.
  
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thorbot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Stop it Valve, I can only become so erect

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Noodle07@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Soooo I was looking into buying a steam deck… Guess that’s great news

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- sanpo@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  It is. It’s a significant upgrade for no price increase.
  
  And if you don’t want to get the best model, the old LCD models have crazy discounts right now.
  
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- paddirn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Only true complaint I might have is that it’s actually fairly heavy and your arms will get tired after playing for too long, especially if you compare it to something like a Switch, but otherwise, I love my Deck, it’s been great. I’ve not had much trouble with most games I throw at it and even moved over my emulation game library on to there. It’s like the holy grail of gaming.
  
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  - CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Maybe it’s just me, but I’ve found the opposite. Maybe it’s the ergonomics but despite the weight I’ve found myself playing the Steam Deck for far longer than I ever could play my Switch before they get uncomfortable.
    
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  - Troooop@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    The new one is lighter!
    
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Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Well shit. I didn’t expect to replace my steam deck so soon, but the extra half an inch plus better battery life could convince me. I use it daily for Final Fantasy XI.

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Smokeydope@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Some guy on lemmy went on a two paragraph rant on me when I said ‘at this point Ill probably just wait for the next version of the deck’ “oh they’re just rumors and valve would never release another model this early in the decks life and yada yada yada…” Well here we are a month later. Ive been alive long enough to know the next model is ALWAYS right around the corner, because it makes the company money. I wanted a PS4 when it came out but held off then a little while later ps4 pro came out and held off some more, then ps5, now ps5 pro. I know the game and am one patient motherfucker, if I need to wait a few more years for the deck 2 then by god ill wait.

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- weew@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  if course valve will make a steam deck 2.
  
  They just won’t make a steam deck 3.
  
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  - Smokeydope@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Nice!
    
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  - bufordt@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Steam deck 2: episode 2
    
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  - impe20@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I see what you did there. Nice.
    
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- KalabiYau@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Don’t bother. By the time the deck 2 comes out, in 6 months there will be a Deck 2.5.
  
  Never buy or enjoy anything! ONLY think about the future
  
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  - rustyriffs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Alright that last comment got me
    
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- dotMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I don’t understand this, then the deck 2 will be out and you’ll then wait for the refresh that’s coming out soon then the deck 3? At that rate you’ll never have a console.
  
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  - Chailles@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    On the other hand though, it’s Valve so they won’t get to 3.
    
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  - Smokeydope@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    At some point I have to pull the trigger, and I am the kind of person who uses a device until it dies so I would rather that device be a refined variant of the original. This year was hard for me financially so I just couldn’t eat the $ on a 400-600$ game player no matter how much I really wanted it. I was EXTREMELY tempted to get the deck when it went on sale this summer. Hopefully when 2 rolls out I will be in a better financial spot and its design and specs will be improved over the og
    
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  - SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Yeah it doesn’t make sense to always wait, but I also disagree with people who say “there’s always something around the corner, so may as well buy immediately, even mid-cycle.” The middle ground for minimizing FOMO is: buy immediately after a new release.
    
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- Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I know exactly when the Switch 2 will be announced.
  
  It will be the same week that the guy at work who has been holding out for it for 3 years finally relents and buys one.
  
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  - Smokeydope@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I still occasionally use my OG switch I got in 2017. Its a fine little device in its own right just a shame that its completely cucked by nintendo. No I am not paying a subscription just to play multiplayer and access to half baked emulators. Horrible sales and overpriced games to boot. I can’t see how anyone in 2023 would want a switch 2 when the deck exist. IDC how good the next gen mario zelda or pokemon are nintendo can suck it.
    
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- Reality_Suit@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Dude. I’ve been watching the handheld gaming market, and it is exactly like you said. If you wait about 6 months there is already new more powerful device out. Aya neo, Ayntech, anbernic, powkiddy.
  
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- Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Valve in particular is less prone to this kind of thing with their hardware, for example the Steam link, steam controller and Valve Index
  
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NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfoLRmKwnSI

The 90 Hz display is apparently still not VRR

So went from “I NEED THIS” to “I really shouldn’t buy it but probably will upgrade during the first sale”

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- thorbot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Better battery life, faster wifi and brighter display is definitely enough for me! Though I will have to be able to sell my original one first
  
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  - NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Oh, I am almost definitely buying this some time next year. The battery life is nice for occasional use, but generally I am not doing marathon sessions anymore.
    
    But the big thing that is getting me excited is the improved thermals. When I play something that is poorly optimized or otherwise start pushing it, I very much am reminded that I am using a “gaming laptop” and all the heat rashes that entails.
    
    Also: If the translucent black+orange were at the 512 GB range, I would probably still make a poor decision next week. More storage is always nice, but I have had zero issues with my current 512 GB drive.
    
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- MudMan@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  You're not driving the display at 90fps, so a 90 fps container for 30-45 fps content is actually not bad at all, and it should feel pretty smooth even with minor fps drops.
  
  People think VRR is magic sometimes, but it doesn't work well with all types of content. For handheld you're often going to be driving at low fps a high refresh rate can be more relevant sometimes. VRR on top of everything else would be nice, but it's definitely not a must.
  
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  - NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Oh. I don’t want to really go down that rabbit hole, but I think the 90 hz display is completely unnecessary considering the use case of the steam deck. Likely just a function of the oled.
    
    And I do think setting a target refresh rate is probably better in the long run. It encourages people to optimize their performance settings and provides a target.
    
    But also? Fluctuations and “running at the limits of your system” are where VRR IS magic. You never have to worry about artifacts that occur from being on the wrong multiple (especially with the math for why 40 Hz is better than 30 AND 45 for a 60 Hz display…). And that is largely where the Deck lives.
    
    I don’t think VRR is essential for the Steam Deck. But I do think it is a “no brainer” that I assume is only not there because of how the (kind of ridiculously) low resolution OLEDs were sourced.
    
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- Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  The benefit of the 90hz is that it raises the bar for refresh rate/2 gameplay for latency/performamce requirement.
  
  40hz alone is half of the input latency difference between 30 and 60 fps. Some people run it at 40hz for optimized battery/performamce/latency ratio. Setting it to 45 now makes it every frame is evenly doubled. That along with the die shrink/10W/Hr/chemistry changes will allow the battery to last a lot longer on the go, at least on paper
  
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  - MudMan@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    That would make more sense if you couldn't set the old LCD panel to 45 already. There's still an advantage to doubling each frame, especially in reducing latency on frame drops, but I don't think there are any refresh targets under 60 the old panel couldn't match after they introduced the manual refresh control feature.
    
    The battery life seems much, much better, though. There are already some preview benchmarks that say at minimum TDP you can get to double digit hours on this thing. That's nuts for a x64 handheld device.
    
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blunderworld@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Damn, very much tempted to sell mine and buy this OLED version; the LCD screen is pretty much the only feature I dislike.

What would be a fair price to sell a used 256gb version with no damage?

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nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Looks this is a refresh for those who were on the edge of buying one or those who really love OLED.

Personally, I would’ve instantly sold mine and upgraded if these also had VRR. Hopefully the proper next generation of these devices comes with it.

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lemmyworld2023@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
The original Steam Deck still not available in my country yet. Sigh

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CerineArkweaver@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Wonder if it would be possible to retrofit the new parts into an existing SteamDeck

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Stumblinbear@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Finally I can buy one

I’ve been holding off on getting a steam deck since I wanted to get their second version rather than being a beta tester for the first

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DigitalFrank@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I waited just under a year for my preorder.

Yes, I will buy the OLED one, and pass the original to my son.

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MudMan@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
This is a really nice mid-gen refresh, IMO. It drives the entry point prices down (when was the last time you saw THAT in tech?) and it makes some really nice improvements to the newer SKUs.

I don't think it's a must-buy if you already own one, but if I was still using a Deck as a daily driver I would certainly consider it. The idea of a 10 hour battery on a handheld PC is super appealing for me, considering how often I'm playing stuff at 5W.

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yamanii@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Welp, my friend bought his one month ago lol

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peetabix@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I’m toying with getting a Steam Deck instead of building a gaming PC. I can’t afford both. The Steam Deck looks an even better now option now.

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Anonymousllama@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
This thing also available at lunch in Australia or nah those cunts can get fucked like usual?

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Chobbes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
So… more importantly, what’s the story with the HDR support? I know there was something with gamescope supporting it. Is this something that’s finally going to be available on a normal Linux desktop?

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2Xtreme21@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I’ve been going back and forth between actively looking to buy one and saying I’ll wait til they get better hardware. Was expecting to have to wait for a while for that so this was definitely surprising.

However while my interest in the new one is incredibly high, I still can’t shake the feeling that it’s still a bit underpowered. Not being able to get above 30/40 FPS in games like Cyberpunk make me feel like I’d be at least a little disappointed. Granted being able to even play AAA games at all on a handheld is awesome, so I may be being unrealistic here in my expectations.

Nevertheless I think I might finally take the plunge on the 16th.

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Isakk86@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Jesus Christ. I just bought the top of the line model 2 weeks ago… FML

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Deven@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Why does it looks like a shotgun or am I still high?

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kratoz29@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Ahhh now I want one even more!!

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PuddingFeeling907@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Now that is it lighter hopefully it will come to Australia.

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