Somehow paying for Netflix is fine but god forbid I want to watch a 10 hour loop of the DS9 intro without ads.
And here I am, getting the same thing and paying nothing because I’ve got uBlock Origin.
Lemmy users when I mention I pay for Youtube Premium
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AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Maven@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This works fine but the main reason I personally have premium is to support the YouTubers I watch. Adblock gets rid of their revenue while premium pays them MORE than just ads do and now I don’t have to worry about it on any platform.
AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Premium still gives them hardly anything. Subscribing to their Patreon is better because they get all your money, minus the small fee.
pissclumps@lemmy.world 1 year ago
How do you run that on a smart tv?
yata@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I don’t. I just plug a pc directly to my tv.
AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Smart tube, or I’ve been told a pi hole works as well. I haven’t bothered with that though, because I don’t like watching YT on TV myself. Out of the two, the pi hole is probably the better option since it works with all your devices.
yoz@aussie.zone 1 year ago
Smartnexttube
SRo@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
Smarttube
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 year ago
There’s always one.
WereBearGareBear@lemm.ee 1 year ago
YMusic
ManosTheHandsOfFate@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yes. I pay for YouTube Music for my six account family and, as a side benefit, we all get ad-free YouTube.
lemillionsocks@beehaw.org 1 year ago
Since youtube has been starting to wage war against adblock I decided to try out using freetube and have been enjoying it. It does have some limitations but since its not tied to the algorithm it reminds me of how I used to have to browse youtube in the older days. Also I feel like the up-next option is way more valuable than it is with the algorithm. Instead of being based off of what I watch its like the old method so it might recommend more vids from the creator or channels like the creator.
Instead of stuff that Ive already watched or am already subscribed to, or that one weird thing the algorithm is pushing for no reason that I keep ignoring but it keeps shoving at me.
Discovery requires a little more creativity with searching and for some categories this can get broad, but the result is finding more teeny tiny creators as well which is neat.
AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
I was getting blocked for having uBlock Origin, but how I solved that was to purge the filter lists in the settings and re-download them. Now I can watch again.
Paul_279@feddit.de 1 year ago
I also have No ads, because I use NewPipe. There I can watch all Videos from YouTube, cccBerlin, pearTube and it is also possible to Listen to Music from Bandcamp and Soundcloud.
TomBombadil@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Somehow paying for Netflix is fine
I-was-saying I was saying paying for Netflix is not fine
Potfarmer@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Paying for premium is fine, but premium users letting Youtube off the hook for their corporate greed is annoying. If YT ran reasonable ads like they used to in the olden days I wouldn’t use an adblocker. Don’t even get me started on their garbage search, a multi billion dollar company can and should do better. Then of course there’s the fiasco of their demonetization system, and rules that apply to some but not others. Simply put they don’t deserve to be paid for premium, if their grinch heart grows and they decide to do better as a company I’d honestly pay for premium.
Angry_Maple@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Tbh, I almost caved and got premium, but I have a lot of the same issues with Youtube that you have.
A big YouTuber was doxxed recently by another big YouTuber, and Youtube did nothing about it. If I was him, I would be going to court.
Sigh_Bafanada@lemmy.world 1 year ago
YouTube is trash, and if a viable alternative were to exist then I would switch in a heartbeat.
But I’m all about convenience, so until that alternative exists, if I have to give some money to YouTube to have that convenience, I’ll do it.
r_se_random@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
While the monopoly that YT has as a video platform is definitely an issue, the cost of maintaining the content has definitely risen now. 480p vs 4k videos have a ton of difference in bandwidth, no matter how much Internet speeds have evolved over the years.
I used Google Play Music (RIP) and moved into YT Music for my music streaming needs. The cost of YT premium was marginally higher so I switched for it.
The major issue with YT Premium is that they still collect the data from YT to show targeted ads, but I use also use uBlock, so that doesn’t really bother me as much.
Point is, video hosting services are expensive. The quantity (not quality) of content on YT is way higher than any othet streaming service, and maintaining that for free is pretty close to impossible. The only possible alternative would be a government backed video platform and that’s definitely worse.
rengoku2@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Us premium users have no obligation to help non premiums.
mercury@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
“us premium users” “non premiums” holy shit dude, you’re gonna get shafted too, you just pay $14 a month for the privilege of it happening later
Sheeple@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Watch me get the premium experience for free using U-Block origin. Byeee sucker!
frogbellyratbone_@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Somehow paying for Netflix is fine
is it tho? is it?
PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 1 year ago
Only I can have double standards.
teft@startrek.website 1 year ago
ummthatguy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Blackout@startrek.website 1 year ago
That scene when he struts up to the guys naked and full of attitude in Chernobyl should have won him an emmy. Love this actor!
Stamets@startrek.website 1 year ago
It is genuinely embarrassing how much that scene did for me. God that whole series is great.
teft@startrek.website 1 year ago
Not the same guy. That was Alex Ferns. This is Michael Hough.
LesserAbe@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’ll pay to not be exposed to ads. I’ll also pay to support a service I get value from. So I’m paying for YouTube premium, Netflix, Hulu. etc. When a service with media I want that has a more desirable corporate structure becomes available I’ll pay for that and maybe get rid of other services. I also occasionally sail the high seas if the thing I want isn’t available on any of the services I’m already paying for.
cosecantphi@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Tbh, I lose some amount of respect for anyone who mentions they pay for media that is easily accessed through piracy, netflix included
Redrum714@lemm.ee 1 year ago
The same can be said even more so about people that refuse to pay for services they use.
cosecantphi@hexbear.net 1 year ago
It’s based, actually. So is stealing from businesses. In fact, if piracy were really the same as stealing, I’d definitely make a point of pirating more often
Venus@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Lmao look at this fucking bootlicker
AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 1 year ago
“Im a loser Looke at meeeE!”
Sasuke@hexbear.net 1 year ago
paying for netflix isn’t fine either
limelight79@lemm.ee 1 year ago
You think that’s bad? Mention you use a HP printer sometime. I dare you to try it.
Subverb@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Trigger wanring:
I have a HP inkjet printer attached to my Windows 11 machine playing YouTube Premium in Chrome without an ad blocker.
Eylrid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
How else are you supposed to print out your favorite videos?
Redrum714@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Well owning a HP inkjet is an objectively stupid thing to do.
limelight79@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Thanks for proving my point!
End0fLine@startrek.website 1 year ago
This just makes me sad for you.
limelight79@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Eh, HP has always worked fine for us. I have two sitting here, actually - one is an all-in-one from ~2009 that we printed our wedding programs on when it was new, and it still works fine, but ink is getting harder to find for it, and we had a scare with the irreplaceable print head a few years ago (I got it working, using HP’s “try this if you’re out of options, but it’s unlikely to work” directions, but we realized it was probably time to consider replacing it).
The other is a few years old and is one of the ones with the subscription service. We’ve had a good experience with it, and I spend less on ink than I did with the old one, but that upsets a LOT of people.
Blackout@kbin.social 1 year ago
No way, Only Brushes and paint for me. Of course I steal it cause why should I pay for it?
CCMan1701A@startrek.website 1 year ago
😭
TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Using an HP printer is like playing Russian Roulette with a ton of loaded bullets. I say this as someone with multiple HP printers.
stoy@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
I just find the cost of Premium to be too high.
Here in Sweden it costs about 120SEK/month, that is far too much, I’d happily pay 60-70SEK/month, that would be worth it to me.
And would still give rhem more money than me not watching ads
JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
They really do fuck us in the Nordics. It’s DKK179 (SEK281, USD26) for the family plan here in Denmark. Granted that’s the whole family getting YouTube Premium and Music, but that’s also I think the highest price anywhere in the world.
WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The price is insane just for getting rid of ads. Amazon Prime is cheaper than that and gives you a ton of benefits.
stoy@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Eh, I watch a lot of youtube to and from the office, for me 60SEK/month would be worth it
ribboo@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Only service where I’ve done the region thing. Paying 15 kr a month because I signed up through Argentina.
dmrzl@programming.dev 1 year ago
Is that much more than Spotify in Sweden?
stoy@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
No idea, I have never used Spotify
EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Hear me out: ublock origin on your computer and revanced manager on your phone.
LibsEatPoop@hexbear.net 1 year ago
I use iPhone. And I like downloading videos way way way too much. UBlock origin is goated tho.
EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 1 year ago
github.com/qnblackcat/uYouPlus/wiki/Installation
You can sideload an adblocking YouTube app on iOS
Osa-Eris-Xero512@kbin.social 1 year ago
I pay for it so my kids' accounts don't have ads. They're too young to sort out all the edge cases that aggressive ad blocking generates and for a bonus we get youtube music.
ranoss@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I think I’m more ok with people playing for YouTube premium. It still helps the creators on YouTube more directly than Netflix
Teritz@feddit.de 1 year ago
Youtube does not offer Content instead they offer space to publish Videos and have Youtube Music.
The Price they are deamding is too high as if they Produce own Content and Music.
Youtube Premium would only be viable for me if i can be anonymous to buy it and removes age restriction,perma bann for YT Shorts the worst they done.
I cannot give a Company money that it this rotten.
Monopoly of YT is just sad.
UnapologeticAnarchist@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Those who pay are the problem on all platforms. 🏴☠️
AnarchoCummunist@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Use Newpipe like a true comrade.
YouTube without ads on Android, and you can run it in the background with/without the screen off.
BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 1 year ago
I like reminding people that Netflix were totally fine with Chappelle’s transphobic shit, you shouldn’t give them your money.
FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Paying for Netflix is not fine
ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I believe it’s someone else’s hard earned money, if they want to throw money to have what is objectively a better viewing experience, then it’s not my problem.
gregorum@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Here’s the thing: how much YouTube content creators are really affected by ad blockers varies widely, and that’s due to several factors such as how many viewers of each creator fit the demographic that might use ad blockers. YouTube is the only entity that would have the real data on the real impact to content creators due to ad blockers, and it’s believed that the reason they don’t share that data is so that they can inflate the numbers in order to claim greater losses than they actually suffer— and while that may very well be a strong motivation, I believe the primary motivation to be to hide the wide variation in levels of compensation between their top content creators. If the ad-blocking impact data became public, it would also reveal the wide disparities in how much YouTube compensates different tiers of content creators and would make public deals with top creators that have, until now, remained private.
This so why it’s always discussed in vague terms and as some existential threat— which is is, for them.
MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I can pay for Netflix to be entertained for days at a time if I want to by original and classic shows and movies that I can’t watch anywhere else, or I can pay for YouTube to show me a bunch of kowtowing brow beaten “creators” try to skirt their ever changing draconian rules long enough to make something that barely counts as entertainment anymore WHICH I could also already watch for free with ads.
Why would I ever pay them for anything?
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 year ago
It’s very ferengi to pay for goods and services.
But it is also very fetengi to steal goods and services.
Be a ferengi 😎
Donjuanme@lemmy.world 1 year ago
A further way to divide the masses. It’s almost as if the masses desire division. We must judge each other based on the others decisions. Even if we were in complete agreement half of everyone would think the other half is agreeing incorrectly.
AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Ya know, if someone wants to spend their money on it, I really don’t care because that’s their money and not mine. It’s not something I would personally buy into, but to each their own.
lemillionsocks@beehaw.org 1 year ago
I know this is a silly meme but my issue with not wanting to pay for youtube is 3 fold.
1.Theyre a monopoly. Google bought out the plucky streaming service on the rise(and honestly if it wasnt google it would have been someone else) and then continued to build up momentum and squash the competition. There is no competition. Daily motion and vimeo and peertube exist, but they dont really compete with youtube anymore.
Google can complain all they want about how it’s expensive to host 4k videos from anyone who wants to upload and how all the global traffic makes their service unprofitable but given theyre a giant corporation, if it didnt bring them value they wouldnt be doing it and if it is a hole theyre putting money into then it’s an hole they dug for themselves.
2.Google sucks at dealing with their creators. The lifeblood of the site is that it is the default platform for video content creators because its so big. Unjustified DCMA takedowns which ruin a persons livelihood and are difficult to appeal, their demonetization and essentially delisting from the algorithm of nsfw videos(which can happen if a key word is detected or a specific type of image, that recent issue with the big youtuber doxing another and getting a slap on the wrist, and the changes made to algorithms that hurt creators and shape content.
Like how the comedy sketches and animators that were prevalent in the early days got squeezed out because the algorithm favored longer videos and a steadier stream of content. Or a case where a youtuber got his own song DCMA’d because another artist remixed his music. And thats not even getting into the poor compensation from ads that means creators need to use sites like patreon to get by. “Oh but if you pay premium your views count more” wow how nice of one of the biggest most valuable companies on earth.
They also have no easy way for even decent sized creators with millions of subs to appeal or get a hold of them, let alone one in the 100s of thousdands or tens of thousands mark. All ai reviewed and ai resolved.
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The algorithm debacle. Its fickle tweaks have indirect impacts on creators and at worst it has been known to feed into conspiracy theories and red pill people into extremist pipelines and it took google way too long to address it. Even when it works well it can still push a lot of the same content. But its arbitrary nature an be a windfall on some seasons for one type of creator and tank another.
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Honestly even if all else failed and adblock stopped working I would probably just watch the ads. It’s like a 15 second clip in the beginning if you skip and a minute worth of ad 10 or 15 minutes later. Im not gunna say I love it but do you people not remember what watching tv was like or reading magazines, or have you ever had a bus drive by you? I can live with the minor amount of mostly skipable ads I’d get an hour especially if it means Im not paying.
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HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It’s called uBlock Origin
Macropolis@lemmy.world 1 year ago
yt-dlp + mpv
solidsnake2085@lemmy.world 1 year ago
So I was against premium for a while, was using vanced and it was fine. Nowadays with my boy getting a bit older and how much we use YouTube it’s just easier to have premium. I know people have mentioned the android TV app but I have a Vizio TV and can’t get it on there. Also, I’m not going to try to root my tv or anything like that (not even sure if I can with this one)
WereBearGareBear@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Has nobody here ever heard of YMusic?
Rooty@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Youtube constantly demonitizes content creators, while protecting doxxers and content thieves. I will not be giving them a single red cent.
UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 1 year ago
If your reason is only moral, then you should also never use the service.
Rooty@lemmy.world 1 year ago
🙄
A corporation can blatantly violate the law, bribe politicians, ignore its TOS whenever its suits them, but a second somebody wants to use a heavily subsidised service without being assaulted by advertising, suddenly a gaggle of concern trolls pop up to lecture about “stealing service”. Buddy, simping for Alphabet will get you nowhere.
regbin_@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Don’t give them viewership too.
Rakonat@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This right here. I did youtube premium one time to watch the first season of cobra kai. And then immediately dropped it when that same month 3 content creators I followed all came forward with videos of how they were getting obviously fraudulent copyright strikes, demonetized over things that they didn’t do wrong and youtube just screwing them over cause they could.
A company that makes billions in profits could easily afford to put better content creator support in place and cover costs or disputes against content creators so none of the people who make their site profitable in the first place ever have to worry if they’ll still be paid for the hours and hours they devote to their channel only for a troll or bad faith actor to make a false claim on their videos and irrevocably remove income.
ours@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You’re giving too much credit, Youtube doesn’t care and is running on AI autopilot. This benefits IP abusers, thieves, and trolls and hurts legitimate creators. But it’s not on purpose, it’s just indifference.
Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
You Dutch? Pretty sure red cent is a Dutch saying.