Submitted 1 year ago by CrayonMaster@midwest.social to technology@lemmy.world
Network neutrality is the idea that internet service providers (ISPs) should treat all data that travels over their networks fairly, without discrimination in favor of particular apps, sites or services
The FCC will meet on October 19th to vote on proposing Title II reclassification that would support accompanying net neutrality protections
That’s great but can we stop rubberbanding our rights in and out of existence?
To do that the current party in favor of removing rights needs to be kept out of power long enough that they conclude that removing rights is an electoral loser and changes their ideology accordingly.
I’m not going to hold my breath.
Even if that happened they still wouldn’t learn or they’d just lie and then do it anyway.
hopefully at least when ISPs and companies see that it’ll just be back and forth, and that things like “fast lanes” can’t be relied upon in business planning there just won’t be a market for it, or at least the fuckery will be significantly diminished because it’s not reliable long-term
I’m not sure long term viability is a huge concern for them as long as they can make a dollar today.
Nope, it’s the only way you make sure we stay plastic
My internet is run by my coop power company, just a reminder that all the major ISPs took billions and promised fiber and then royalty fucked us, so now my internet is run by a rural power company.
Call your power company and find out if they’re installing fiber. Support this move as it weakens Comcast and AT&T’s death grip.
Net Neutrality has been taken away before and it can be taken away again. Just get with a coop. I’ve torrented literal terabytes without even an email telling me not to .
Co-ops are a good thing^tm^ , I belong to several small co-ops, from electric, to telephone, to farm.
A coop near us is rolling out 1Gb fiber up/down to rural homes. Considering most of them could only get DSL or use 4G/3G internet, it is amazing. I have to wait to see if they come in town for their rollout, as they have to pay another power company to use their power poles. Everyone I know is switching to the coop as it is cheaper, more stable, and unlimited.
my power company is privately owned :(
I didn’t even know co-op power companies were common, it seems like an odd (but good) service to be provided by a co-op. I wonder if they’re common in the UK.
This is a better idea than Net Neutrality. Stop begging government to fix things for you when you and your neighbors can just fix it yourself.
The thing is though public utilities are supposed to be implemented and paid for by the tax payers of the area. Suggesting that the government shouldn’t be doing what we pay tax money for doesn’t make sense. That would be like saying , “oh, I know you taxes pay for your government to upkeep the roads, but stop bothering them about it and you and your neighbours band together to fix that sink hole, and those potholes, and reline that crosswalk”.
Ajit Pai deserve as many middle fingers as this one.
Waiting for the day someone bonks him in the head with that stupid thing
Fuck a shit pie
Burning in hell would be better
Ajiit creamPai
Fuck Ajit Pai
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Hey Ajit Pai, put this in your Reese’s shit cup and suck it
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It’s about damn time!!
Maybe this will be the one thing that will fix my ISP and let me play online video games without frequent disconnects. I think it’s bad node or something, but I had my ISP at my house over 8 times and they couldn’t figure it out. Meanwhile my unifi gateway shows a high ping at least once a day.
Go spectrum!
Go spectrum!
I’ve noticed my Spectrum Internet has really degraded in quality in the last months, which coincides with them doing a whole bunch of upgrades to their network and such.
All of my devices in the house that use the Internet now lag in their UI presentation speed, where they didn’t before.
Same with me. Over the last few months it’s started to take tens of seconds to connect to any websites that aren’t Google, Facebook, YouTube etc. Idk what it is or why it’s happening, but it’s to the point where I’m switching ISPs because it’s wasting too much of my time.
Change your DNS to see if it’s a resolution issue.
I just hope nothing “extra” gets tacked on…
It will be interesting to see how reddit reacts to this because they were ALL IN on net neutrality back in the day, I was even part of their filing with the FCC, but their recent turn against API features goes patently against the whole notion of Net Neutrality.
That has literally nothing to do with net neutrality.
All net neutrality means is that at the ISP level all traffic is treated the same and the ISP cannot step in and do shit like, for example, block all traffic coming from a VPN server. Or block all torrent packets. Or block all ENCRYPTED packets. Or slowly deliver Facebook packets because Twitter paid them to do so.
All traffic is treated equally, regardless of content.
What an individual website does with its own API is not even in this conversation.
In other words Net Neutrality is about stalling the further enshitification of everything.
Shutting down their API is the direct anti-competitive action which goes against net neutrality. It stifles innovation.
Good chunk of the people who give a hoot about this, have already migrated from Reddit, so hard to say, who knows though? Guess we’ll see
Cool, now break up the monopolies while you’re at it FAANG should be like 500 companies, not 5
The internet is healing…Don’t look over there, it’s already necrotic…
We just need to cut that part off. Sorry Facebook, Amazon, Google, et al.
Hell yes. Glad to see some sense returning to government if a bit slowly at times
Did anything noteworthy happen as a result of removing net neutrality?
What didn’t happen was internet being classified as a title II telecommunications service. So there’s one consequence.
For anyone who was confused by what "vote to propose" means:
If the FCC issues the notice as expected on October 19th, the next steps would be a public comment phase followed by issuance of a final rule. This process could result in a final rule restoring net neutrality requirements around spring of 2024.
Did companies ever actually do anything after net neutrality went away? I still think it’s a great thing to have but just genuinely curious if anything really happened cause I didn’t notice much.
Did companies ever actually do anything after net neutrality went away? I still think it’s a great thing to have but just genuinely curious if anything really happened cause I didn’t notice much.
Well I doubt if companies would tell you “we are giving you a worse Internet experience so we can make more money”, voluntarily.
washingtonpost.com/…/twitter-x-links-delayed/
Idk if this is actually a net neutrality issue because they’re not an ISP but twitter absolutely added delays to links to websites that Musk doesn’t like.
Doesn’t apply; X isn’t an Internet Service Provider. They can screw over their users how they see fit.
It’s plausible that some of the websites you like run faster because ISPs aren’t throttling them, while throttling the competition.
My understanding is that they mostly haven’t, with a couple exceptions like a few ISPs offering to priorities to pings for gaming (as FeelThePower mentioned), throttle certain protocols (e.g. Torrenting), or refuse to carry traffic for certain sites (e.g. Kiwi Farms). All of this would be prevented under net neutrality.
As far as I’m aware though, an extremely overwhelmingly portion of traffic (like you’d have to do a lot of digging to find an example otherwise) already adheres to net neutrality since it’s pretty pointless for a company to spend resources and goodwill to mess with traffic.
I don’t think too much will change. It is nice in the sense it will prevent an ISP from doing things against specific sites, although like mentioned above most of the protections are theoretical ATM.
Wait, Net Neutrality was removed?
Yeah, and the media is owned by comcast and AT&T.
Did you know that AT&T bought time warner?
And Disney bought Fox.
So of course none of the media outlet covered that happening…because they’re owned by the people who benefit from net neutrality being gone.
Sticky olde’ Ajit creamPai likes to get his special treatment from the telecom companies that paid bribes to get him into his position. I just hope that his replacement is as good as Tom Wheeler was.
One of the many things fucked during the Trump years. Easy to have lost it in all that noise.
Why do you think paid subscriptions with a tier I’ve been a thing, it was one of the first things Donald Trump did
Can someone tldr what’s net neutrality?
What would you all say if I started an ISP that offered $3 a month for service only to a handful of websites? That would be prohibited under Net Neutrality, yet I could see something like that being useful to plenty of people, like my grandparents who use the Internet only to send emails and check their local news.
Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
I will post Fuck Ajit Pai every time I see news about net neutrality until it’s fucking back.
F U C K
A J I T
P A I
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Ajit creamPai is just a puppet of the corporations, he’s a dick that’s corrupt and rubbing the fact that he’s corrupt in your face, but he’s just the most visible festering boil on the whole ugly face of our government.
great_site_not@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I agree 100%, but I’d rather live without net neutrality than see that nickname catch on
darmabum@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Fuck Ajit Pai!
Zetta@mander.xyz 1 year ago
That dude was such a fucking cunt
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
do Ajit pai
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Ajit creamPai
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
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Rambi@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I mean fuck Ajit Pai and all, but that is a very efficient mug and it doesn’t deserve hate for being associated with the grim reaper of digital freedom.
We need to end unjustified hatred of big mugs now.
synceDD@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Strong and brave 👏👏👏👏
Rambi@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Well you’re weak and cowardly
Confused_Emus@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I missed the word “post” on the first read through and was rather concerned about your method of protest.