Submitted 1 year ago by stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.engadget.com/microsofts-latest-windows-11-update-drops-on-september-26-163553126.html
Microsoft is releasing a big Windows 11 update on September 26. Update 23H2 includes the new AI-powered Windows Copilot feature, a native RAR app, a new volume mixer and a lot more.
can I move the taskbar now to another, non-main, screen? If not fuck off with your AI nonsense.
Started a new job 4 months ago. First time using a windows desktop since windows 2000. Have multi screens always sucked this bad? You never know on what screen a launched window will appear.
How can people work like this?
That’s interesting. Windows 11 is the best multi monitor version of windows ever, in my experience. It “remembers” where apps were last used opens them there. While not perfect, I find it great that it handles more than one multiple monitor setup. I have 3 monitors at home and 2 at the office. I just plug in and they are always in the same alignment. Given how bad it was in previous versions, I’m impressed.
They have not sucked this bad, no.
to be fair my macbook pro I use for working has the same problems. If I connect it to my dual screen setup at home it always forgets which screen contained which window…sometimes it even forgets which wallpaper I have set up.
I have been using a multi-monitor setup for years and never had any issues. Windows will usually appear on the screen you closed them on.
I’ve been waiting to move my fucking taskbar forever.
StartAllBack is a low cost method to fix the task bar.
I won’t use another software to enable a feature that was standart in older windows versions. My computer is fairly clean and is only used for gaming so it has nothing else than drivers, launchers like steam and gog and the games installed.
Still chasing the dream of mainstream Clippy acceptance.
fr tho, MS has been on the digital assistant thing for decades at this point.
Digital assistants are to Microsoft as Messaging apps are to Google.
“Maybe it’ll work this decade”
The problem is Cortana or clippy or whatever they call it now sucks. I’ve never found its suggestions to be helpful. Google assistant has been helpful at least once in a while.
Gonna get downvoted to crap for this, but what the hell - hi, it’s me, I’m that one guy who actually loves Windows a little more with every release. I’m continually surprised by the good stuff that’s baked into the OS now (e.g. Much better multi-monitor support) and how the real power users can do a whole load more besides with Powertoys (key remapping!) - It’s really encouraging to see that I need fewer and fewer specialist programs to get Windows to work just how I want.
I’m not wildly sold on AI being baked into the OS, but what the heck - Microsoft have earned their goodwill from me in recent years. I’ll play around with it with interest.
I was like you until windows 10. I opted out of that. It just felt like losing control over my computer. Windows 11 even more so.
Same here. Switched to Linux because of that.
I’ll be very surprised if AI is actually “baked into” the OS. A client to their cloud AI will be baked in, but that’s nit the same thing IMO.
(btw powertoys is great, multimonitor support is great too, if they finally fix the task bar I might finally go to Win11)
A client to their cloud AI will be baked in
That would instantly kill the feature for me. Hope its easy to remove but I know how shitty MS is about getting that data.
I wouldn’t be surprised to learn you haven’t tried anything else
MacOS, Ubuntu, Manjaro, Mint, Solus…
Much better multi-monitor support
Tell that to the Snipping Tool.
I was dealing with this yesterday it’s so stupid.
When I press the screenshot button on my keyboard it should only screenshot the display that the cursor is currently on. There is absolutely no reason that it should screenshot the entire display.
Stop using Snipping Tool and download Share X
Tl;Dr I hate hate hate windows, but 11 is better than 10 (feature wise) and works good for being windows.
When using windows (at work and only at work), I hate it every day. I actively think “I hate windows”. Sometimes multiple times per day. It’s not objective at all (even through there are good, objective reasons to hate windows).
BUT: Upgrading from windows 10 to windows 11 is an improvement (If you ignore all spyware and corporate crap shenanigans). Windows became a little less ugly and does some things that you would previously have to hack into it.
Windows terminal is usable, at least compared to other windows terminals. Don’t get me wrong, it sucks, but it sucks less than many other things. Powertoys is band aid, but that band aid is still pretty useless.
That new AI crap ware is just garbage that is forced on users. I don’t want their crappy “AI” that (in my opinion) highly violates open source licenses (the GPL at least). And I don’t get why they do that too, most people don’t even code, why would they need that copilot crap ware?
Luckily, I might have the option to ditch windows and install a proper OS, only with the cost of being my own IT department.
I used to have DisplayFusion to customise just how I liked, so I don’t know exactly when a lot of this stuff changed - could even have been Windows 10 - but things like support for different backgrounds on each monitor, ability to indicate the relative heights your monitors are set at so the mouse flows smoothly between them (useful if you have a proper screen and a laptop one for example), mouse will scroll the window where the cursor is currently located rather than the active window as default, easier snap layouts to simulate a dual monitor setup on one…generally it just works exactly how I would expect out of the box.
What about the Monitor improvements?
Support for more than 3 monitors, for one. Also, support for multi-mon over remote
I’ve been using Linux in various ways since the mid 90s, work has dictated OSX to me for the last decade or so, and I still choose windows as my desktop OS. I use copilot, and it’s great for development, but also great for generating text in a lot of ways. I miss it in my browser when I go to put in a pull request, and I miss it sometimes when explaining blocks of code or giving someone else an outline of how to do something. It doesn’t really lower my need to understand things, but it just a-Ed’s up the most mundane parts of the job. If ‘having it in the OS’ means it could fill in those bits, I’d wish even more I could use windows for work.
It’s great as a dev platform with WSL2 a great experience, VS codes built in remote server, native first class hypervisor support (with competent virtual networking). I know IT admins still hate it, and I’m sure a lot of the things that don’t affect me still suck, but they are building a good user experience.
I see you are trying to open the terminal, would you like me to:
A: break your knees
B: kill your entire family
“I’m sorry but you didn’t supply a valid answer which means that you want both. I will send a contract killer to your house immediately. Would you like to leave feedback on how I did?”
Bing search is ran instead
“I’m sorry Dave…”
“a new volume mixer” - please just be an interface change and nothing dramatic 👀
Or make it open when clicking the icon instead of hiding it behind two clicks.
Same. Switched to Linux (also using KDE) a month or two ago on my personal laptop, and I’ll never go back. Using my work laptop is a daily reminder that I made the right choice.
It feels like this is how using a PC was always supposed to be. Before the profit motive ruined it like it ruins everything.
AI powered volume switcher?
We heard your feedback and the volume mixer is now controlled exclusively through ChatGPT! Also it’s their ChatGPT so you’re limited to like 20 commands an hour.
“a new volume mixer” - please just be an interface change and nothing dramatic 👀
Oof. As if the sound settings weren’t already fragmented to all hell.
It’s been shown off for months. You click the volume speaker and then a second click will get you to a mixer that almost looks like Ear Trumpet. I’ll probably stick to Ear Trumpet though since it’s just one click
Can we just ungroup the damned Taskbar already? I don’t understand why they are being so stubborn on this.
That’s already available for insiders and can be enabled, meaning it will soon-ish come to the stable versions of Windows 11.
That’s the number one reason I stayed on 10. I’m figuring out a swap to Linux - gaming is my only concern. Might just dual boot.
Other than game devs who intentionally block Linux with anti-cheat (Epic, Riot) almost all other games work perfectly fine on Linux nowadays.
This is a LOT of people currently. We all want off of this Microsoft crapfest. Luckily a lot of us bailed on Windows 11 so we won’t have to deal with this further enshittification of windows.
Gaben had a talk about the future of Linux gaming so things are moving and windows will finally be a forgotten memory.
I’m a passionate Linux User, so take it from me: Many things won’t work. Especially without figuring technical things out. Steam stuff is often okay, modding sucks, Anti-Cheat crapware will Mist probably not work at all.
That’s just what were dealing with. Praised be all game companies with Linux Support, this and “No Tux no Bux”.
Due to lack of this I just started tinkering with computers instead.
I swapped about a month ago. I’m running Ubuntu on desktop and openSuse Tumbleweed on laptop; both with KDE Plasma desktop environment, which makes the transition from windows easier. It’s a little bit of a learning curve as the names of software packages are unfamiliar to me, but I’m liking it.
My partner who never even contemplated anything else but windows did some work on my computer and I expected questions and frustration from her, but alas she did what she needed to do and I doubt she even noticed.
Mind you, I don’t really do gaming.
I recommend StartAllBack. Granted no third party apps should be required for such a simple feature, StartAllBack does this and more.
I second this. I’ve tried all of the other programs that make customization changes to the taskbar and StartAllBack feels native. I forget that I’m using a third party tool until I switch to another computer and wonder why the start menu is utter garbage.
It won’t be needed on the 26th, ungrouping was announced months ago.
I do love StartAllBack though. I’m curious if the new file explorer will convince me to stop using the Win10 Ribbon mode in StartAllBack
Start11 by Stardock does this and more, its not FOSS, but is cheap (if you go the legal route). There is also Winhawk, which is FOSS, though is a little less intuitive.
Lol its a trillion dollar company. They make the rules. Its Not the other way around.
Who really owns the computer you paid for :/
Ungroup icon of multiple instances of one app into separate taskbar items? That’s been in insider builds for some time now. (Luckily…)
They’re not being stubborn, it’s coming in this same update and was announced at least 6 months ago
Going off of Dave Plummer’s video, looks like copilot is kind of a wash. It has the potential to do some neat stuff on desktop, but its crappily shoehorned into the OS instead.
“This time you’re going to love Cortana. For reals!”
With love, Clippy.
Hoping they’ve made it better since
Every tech company is pulling this stupid bullshit now. Mine is also trying to find any way they can to shoehorn an LLM into their product. It’s marketing BS
Underpants gnomes economics.
Integrate AI into everything, even where it doesn't make any damn sense.
???
Profit.
Man fuck that shit.
a native RAR app
It better come with a trial expired pop-up or I am not using it
If I look at what Windows 11 is, its features and the new features, I honestly can’t work out who Microsoft’s target market is anymore.
With the pricing for AI, I can’t even work out which enterprises would consume it.
Who would even create rar archives these days, when there is 7zip?
Im so happy I uninstalled W11 and installed W10 LTSC
Like baking a turd into a mud cookie.
The only feature I’m looking forward to is the ability to ungroup multiple instances of the same program in the talk bar. That feature was around forever but for some reason they disabled it in Windows 11.
Woah that’s crazy, anyways my Arch updates just dropped today, and continue to drop like hourly.
Lol nope. Definitely sticking with 10 for the foreseeable future.
AI isn’t the only game in town, as this is also a traditional OS update with the usual quality of life improvements. There’s finally native support for RAR and 7-zip file formats, so you can get rid of those third-party archiving apps.
LMAO It just hit me that Windows STILL did not have native ways to do this. We’ve been using .zips for almost 40 years and for this whole time, Microsoft never released their own utility for opening zips until now. Wow.
Did they not try to bake in a digital assistant in Windows previously?
How do I install the nVidia drivers on Linux? I asking in case I decide to finally switch (found some Linux DAW, now all is happy, likely will go with Ubuntu + KDE).
Clippy on steroids.
haha, Windows
To give users access to an amalgamation of other’s works? Or to access to the user’s works?
As they say, It’s all about choice. I’m not overly enamoured byIthe additional features, other than the security and similar uodates. Less keen on the bakes in AI. I’ll see how we get on, but thinking about my last windows machine also migrating to Debian.
riodoro1@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Oh, another system wide crapware that nobody is going to use.
FireWire400@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They might as well call it Cortana AI