The minute I have ads in my paid subscription it’s a cancel
Spotify playing ads for paid subscribers
Submitted 3 weeks ago by Beep@lemmus.org to technology@lemmy.world
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47428391
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madcaesar@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Exactly why I canceled Amazon Prime. 100% would recommend canceling. I don’t miss it.
Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Likewise. I’ve been putting off satting up a Soulseek+Navidrome stack on my home server. I’m sure there’s a way to integrate ListenBrainz suggestions too. First ad I hear, I’m doing it.
MunkysUnkEnz0@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Soulseek for the win what is navidrome, i’m unfamiliar.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I think you can integrate lidarr into SoulSeek too.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Can’t talk about navidrome, but jellyfin has a listenbrainz plugin :)
Damage@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
I use Navidrome and scrobble to ListenBrainz and Last.fm for suggestions. I’ve recently learnt about Sonobarr but haven’t tried it yet.
It’s not as seamless as playing a song/artist station on spotify or just letting it decide what to continue with at the end of a playlist, but it’s also free (in both ways!).
CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Yeah same here, I’ve been procrastinating while I gradually build my collection of mp3s/flacs, but the second I hear an ad on Spotify I’m done.
infinitevalence@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
I buy my music from the artists as directly as possible via Band Camp.
whaleross@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Qobuz, Tidal, Deezer.
uuj8za@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Just recently signed up for Qobuz. I’m planning on purchasing albums as I go along so at least I’m left with something the day I decide to quit.
cenotaph@piefed.zip 3 weeks ago
Fun fact, there are tools to rip FLAC files of music you stream on qobuz so you can build up your music hoard
just_another_person@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Worst mobile app on the planet with SO many bugs, but dammit if they aren’t a clean platform otherwise.
pieberry@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Deezer was playing ICE recruitment ads last year. I think it’s important for people to know so they can make a more informed decision.
FatVegan@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
I’m using Tidal, but i can’t say i really like it. They seem to randomly decide what songs and artists are not available, and their search function is really bad.
binarytobis@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I used Tidal for a few months, then found out it had silently removed ~10% of my music from my “liked” list. Completely unacceptable. They should at least keep a list of titles so I can go back and fix it. People say all services do this, but I’ve been keeping an eye on it and Spotify hasn’t done it since I hopped back.
Qobuz was painful to use and new music discovery was hopeless. No idea if they were removing tracks too.
Bandcamp seems cool, but I prefer to listen to music via song-based-radios, so that’s a no go.
Not sure what I’ll do if I have to drop Spotify again over ads.
whaleross@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s not up to the streaming service but the record company.
Personally I switched from Tidal to Qobuz this year and I like it much better.
Custard@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nicotine+, qmmp
XLE@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
This is just the latest in a series of vibe-coding caused bugs, Spotify famously claimed their best devs were no longer writing any of their own code:
I don’t know if this makes it better or worse.
greenacres3233@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Worse. It makes it worse.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
From HN comments:
This is just the latest in a series of vibe-coding caused bugs, Spotify famously claimed their best devs were no longer writing any of their own code:
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I posted this when Youtube was doing it by mistake too…
If you are paying to not receive ads, and you receive an ad by mistake, they should pay you whatever they earned on the ad. Now… I doubt they’ll actually pay you, but lets say at minimum 1 day of free extended service per ad, but if they earn more than 1 days worth via the ad, then it should be whatever that is.
Brewchin@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s telling of this era that it’s impossible to initially know if this is corporate greed or vibe goonery.
So… intentional or unintentional enshittification, I guess. 😬
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
I have heard this before from rando Reddit posts where it turns out they were listening to podcasts that just had the ads baked into the broadcast.
Fermion@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
They still serve personalized ads in the podcasts. They aren’t baked in.
null@lemmy.org 2 weeks ago
Love hearing about products and services as I’m listening to my podcast about genocides and warcrimes. Mustard gas really gets me in the mood Blue Apron.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Mmm… Mustard… 🤤
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Nope. Had it happen to me: lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/25040771
TLDR: I know it because the ads were German but the podcast is in English.
cageythree@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
TLDR: I know it because the ads were German but the podcast is in English.
That can still happen and happens to me too, despite using a no-ad FOSS player, so the ads are definitely from the podcast, not the player.
Dynamic ad insertion is absolutely a thing in podcasts. If you access/download the MP3 file on the server from a German IP address, a German ad will be put in at the specified ad break before you/your player downloads the file.So a different language ad doesn’t mean it’s from Spotify.
(PS: By the way, using a VPN connected to a country where not many companies make podcast ads works basically like a podcast ad blocker. I route my podcast player through an Albania VPN and have like 80% less ads than before. The remainder is “classic” podcast ads that are inserted as a static part of the MP3 file, no way to get rid of those.)
Cavemanfreak@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
They do serve ads on podcasts. Not all of them though. It used to be that they were separate, so that you were shown a different “now playing” screen. I first noticed when it happened on otherwise ad free shows, like Lateral. Not sure if that’s the case now? Some of the podcasts I listen to jump in length from the episode list to the “now playing” screen, which is weird. Don’t know if it’s because injected ads or not though, or if they’re even from Spotify. I haven’t seen those ads that are on a new “now playing” screen in a while.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I went back to Winamp last year and don’t regret it at all.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Where do you get the media from, though
skisnow@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Remember CDs? Actually owning stuff?
qaeta@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Yarr matey!
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Your local library should rent CD’s. Rent 'em and rip 'em into mp3’s and BOOM!, Robert’s your dad’s brother.
Gork@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
If I didn’t already cancel them, this would make me cancel them again.
wewbull@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Signs your business model has truly failed.
selokichtli@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
They alll fail when forever gain growth is the expectation.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Now I have a peoblem with this statement in a vacuum.
Zero: I am based in Germany. So not as many dystopian laws and decisions as in the USA
First: Yes, Spotify bad, Hooray Jellyfin, ripping CDs and owning the media you have. Also good for the artists.
Second: I had ads played to me. But it only happened on podcasts.
Third: I had talked to the Spotify support: imgur.com/a/Ulis7Oe
(TLDR: Podcast publishers (e.g. LTT with their WANshow or Dallas Taylor with 20 Thousand Hertz) can decide if they want to play ads. They happened to me inbetween episodes)So yeah. Now it would be very interesting what this random person encountered where.
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
My wife and daughter had heard ads sparingly and they only listen to music. I assumed it was some sort of bug because it is very infrequent, but with today’s corps I should probably invoke the inverse of Hanlon’s Razor and just assume malice.
FEIN@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hanlon’s RazorWhose Hanlon and why do you need his razor? It’s more hygienic to buy one from the store
Ganymede@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Why do people even use Spotify at this point?
666dollarfootlong@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Convenience of instant access to gazillion songs, though i’m not sure if the average spotify user even listens to anything other than top-lists
_g_be@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I used to use Spotify but got sick of their recommendations. Vastly different genre playlists would still get top100 songs recommended. Sabrina Carpenter in all my playlists.
I moved to Pandora, their recommendation engine is way less biased. Fewer features in the app, tho
Ganymede@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
The Convenience aspect kind of goes away when you factor in alternatives like YouTube music, apple music or soundcloud
Samskara@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Sharing and creating playlists with friends. Discovering new music. Endless playlists of high quality.
Tonava@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
It’s still been cheaper than the alternatives if you buy for multiple people, and has most of my native country’s artists at this point. I’d like to switch, but I’m worried the other services don’t offer enough finnish music, and just couple euros more is a lot of money when you are poor.
Of course you could say “don’t pay for these if you’re poor”, but it’s the only subscription I’m paying for, and I feel like abandoning every single thing that can still bring me joy is kinda asking for my depression peak so I’m back to trying to hang myself again.Though the moment I hear adds or the price increases again, I’ll obviously switch immediately
Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
They have far more niche music than anyone else. I mean that from a Finnish perspective.
FatVegan@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
Their search function and recommendations are really good. Other than that, no idea. Convenience
binarytobis@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Song-based radios for new music discovery on a service where they don’t silently drop huge swaths of music from my curated “liked” list. Tidal, Qobuz, and Bandcamp failed to meet this requirement in different ways.
Spotify isn’t even good, but I don’t have another real option yet.
greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Me personally, just because someone else is paying for it. The second they stop, I’ll go somewhere else.
Barracuda@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Time to switch to Qobuz then. Goodbye Spotify.
blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Ah no! The first company to play ads for paid subscribers
Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Haven’t Amazon and Netflix been doing that for a long time already?
felbane@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
thatisthejoke.meme
deacon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I would have to go and download an ad, and then upload it, and then select it from new additions in order to hear an ad on Plexamp.
But the subscription model is the framework for fuckery here.
It wasn’t long ago that subscribing to something, implied a consistent (usually periodical) delivery of actual goods or services that were in some way distinct from the previous periods good or services. Issue #33 is different from #32. March’s soup of the month is different than February’s.
And you could hold issue #33 in one hand and #32 in another hand and directly interact with two months worth of that subscription.
The tech bro idea of innovation is to get two revenue streams from each customer; keep us paying for the same thing over and over but never owning it, and sell our data to advertisers. The fact that they are also showing ads to subscribers is just dripping lemon juice in the paper cut because they can. They were already making money off that data.
Imaginary_Stand4909@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I’ve been using YT music anyway, but I recently started using my Navidrome server by just yt-dlp’ing albums + tag with MusicBrainz picard and boom. A bunch of songs I can own until my server burns down.
I feel a little bad about pirating, but I’m a college student who hasn’t even gotten a job yet… But I will be buying merch or music off bandcamp in the future when I know I have the budget for it!
Minizarbi@jlai.lu 2 weeks ago
Bandcamp is very nice!
Samiaouuu@jlai.lu 2 weeks ago
I recommand monochrome(.)tf, it’s basically Tidal for free so it has much better quality than YouTube
SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Thank you for this!
qaeta@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I will never give YT music money since they killed off Google Play Music (a far superior music app) to make it.
0oWow@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Again? Lol
Just a heads up, Deezer has been working hard to improve their UI a great deal. It is so much less stressful to navigate than Spotify. Sound quality is also better to me. And not being forced to mix music with ad-infused podcasts is so very nice.
pieberry@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Deezer played ICE recruitment ads last year on their service.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Didn’t the creator also dox a customer for criticizing them?
kepix@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
why is it stressful? you search for the track, and you click play.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Don’t support fascist enabling bootlickers
0oWow@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah, I do that… On Deezer. 👍👍
qevlarr@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s a bug, not a change of policy
billwashere@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s why I cancelled SiriusXM a while back. I’m paying for the service so atop playing ads. And at the time it was like the same ad over and over. God it was infuriating.
chortle_tortle@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Spotify has ads? I’ve never paid, I thought it just had to take little breaks after some songs because they were harder to play 🤔
Kkk2237pl@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Is that confirmed? My whole family use Spotify and we didn’t have such issue…
sturmblast@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Tidal is better
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Amozon does it, YouTube does it. Everyone will do it eventually. Greed has no threshold
Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Is this news site Peter Thiels?
Trilogy3452@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
(En)Shittify
jjlinux@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Took them longer than I expected.
Nebulous_Keito@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
And then they wonder why everyone is fixing the hulls of their ships and getting new sails.
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Or self hosting their own Jellyfin
artyom@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
It’s the same thing.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
1.: I divide the payment of Family across 3 members.
2.: I listen to so many songs individually, it would bankrupt me to buy every single song individually or the full album.
3.: I’ll buy an album (2nd hand discogs (so good)/ebay, digitally on wherever or bandcamp). If I don’t like the music as much or the buying process is annoying, I’ll pirate the song.
So yeah. It depends.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah, but Spotify is and always has been a really poorly designed app. Google sucks in a lot of ways, but YouTube Music is a great platform.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Well, not really. I’ve discovered a ton of music in the past couple years I never would have bought or even had access to, without streaming. But Spotify does suck, I much prefer YouTube Music, which comes with Premium.
HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I should really learn to not make these sort of ultimatum type statements.
Of course there’s some good things about it. But I’ve never been a spotify user, I’ve discovered a whole lot of stuff through things like last.fm, youtube and just music themed internet forums and IRC etc. So I wont argue that you can’t find stuff through spotify, but I’ll say that there are other ways to discover things, making spotify not necessary but helpful in that regard.