Good, good. Next, tell me there will be a 3.5mm headphone jack, swappable SD card, and user-replaceable battery and we’ll be golden.
Motorola GrapheneOS devices will be bootloader unlockable/relockable
Submitted 2 weeks ago by XLE@piefed.social to technology@lemmy.world
https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116160393783585567
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Deconceptualist@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
ernest314@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
their phones do tend to have that already…
AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
So interesting to me that it’s the lower end phones that have the features I want
MrSmith@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I ain’t buying shit if it ain’t got a rotary dial!
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I demand to have an outdated standard for a storage medium with a high rate of failure that’s also slow and causes immense heat, while we’re at it I also demand the charger be micro USB and it to be shipped with a pre rooted install of GOS maintained exclusively by one guy in his spare time
lmr0x61@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Damn, Motorola may really make a comeback with this!
henfredemars@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Fantastic. Excellent news! I would expect nothing less.
Kriznick@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Whelp, looks like I’m going to Motorola
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
Well yeah. I doubt the GrapheneOS team would allow anything less.
v4c4@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Probably a long shot, but I wish they added a headphone jack and sd card to these phones. These features would also benefit privacy.
Addv4@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Actually, a few of the Motorola phones do have headphone jacks and sd card ports, like the moto G. Which is why I’m really, really hoping those are the models supported.
shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I’ve specifically heard that it’s going to be a flagship chipset at first, especially, so it definitely won’t be the Moto G line. I’ve heard it’s going to be closer to the Moto Signature, which is like 3.3 Monero.
Tapirs_Are_AI_Slop@lemmy.org 2 weeks ago
I’ve finally accepted the death of the 3.5mm jack. But no sd card is bullshit.
E/os is working for me tho. Realized I don’t even need microG to have permissions for anything other than notifications and all my stuff works. All I really miss is the ability to chromecast music.
FrankFrankson@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I will never accept the death of the 3.5mm jack. I refuse to buy wireless ear buds as I know I will lose them. I need my tiny ear speakers to come with anti-misplacement cord technology.
njordomir@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’d love an SD card again. At home, I can just use SMB to access remote file systems on my phone. I can do it while mobile, but despite the gig connection, it’s a bit too slow for my taste. Works for files, but it won’t ever let me watch a downloaded movie on a plane or a podcast while driving across Kansas. I’d rather be able to dump 128GB on an SD card via my laptop (much faster I/O) then stick it in the phone.
I’ve gotten used to BT headphones, but I’d love to be able to plug in to a stereo again without a flakey Bluetooth dongle
mr_anny@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Holy Hell!
This definitely will be on my shopping list. At the top. I hope they bring to all devices and not only higher end.
This news aligns quite well with the Levovo T series ThinkPad repairability.
Other major tech companies sail towards more and more closed environments.
Echolynx@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Just take my money!
gnate@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oh, they will.
DigDoug@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s nice to get confirmation, though I really can’t believe it had to be said. Sign of the times, I guess.
If they release one with a headphone jack I’m 100% sold.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Please make this the industry expected.
barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Will banking apps and NFC pay finally work?
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Doesn’t that depend on google play services? If so, “probably not, but then again it works currently if you install play services on a separate user profile (or on your main, defeating the purpose of grapheneOS to begin with but more power to you).”
Tell google/banks to stop requiring the spyware, they won’t but at least it’s better then telling the secure OS to install just a little spyware just so you don’t need to carry a wallet.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
graphene still sandboxes gplay, even if you use the two profiles for work and home
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I need to be able to use my banking app to check my balance. That’s more than just needing “to carry a wallet.” That’s the difference of more than $450 in mistakes as that’s what happened when i didn’t get a live-update to my account prior to the advent of smartphone banking apps. Fuck 5/3.
Lem453@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
I expected no less.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
No jack? Send it back.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I too am curious, imo the headphone jack removal was the first sighs of enshitification.
Nerdulous@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Genuinely question. If you want something with a modern high performance processor what options do you have that also include a jack?
OmegaSunkey@ani.social 2 weeks ago
I think Sony Xperia phones.
m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_1_vii_5g-13843.php
Snapdragon 8 Elite. Release May 13, 2025.
MrSmith@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Do you own a pair of wireless headphones?
trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 2 weeks ago
Stop, I can only get so erect
razen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
One of the main thing id size of phones, pixel has a series which are comparitevely smaller but I dont know if Moto has any small phones. If only moto make a small phone too, it will be awesome
BladeFederation@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Hell yeah
sommerset@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
When is it gonna come out?
arch@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Omg omg. What to do. My old Pix does not fit me anymore. For last 2 month I planned to get new Pix 10 XL. And just out of the blue, this. Should I wait another year for a new Moto?! That’s tempting. Although the first gen of new moto devices might be buggy etc.
pHr34kY@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Moto have been making phones for as long as there has been phones. Software issues would get fixed. I don’t think hardware issues are likely.
Corngood@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Google already refuse signing releases for GrapheneOS on the pixel.
Do you mean how you get a special boot screen implying you’re doing something sketchy?
Google signing things is not something we want. We want phones that don’t care if your OS is signed by Google, and banking apps that trust you to pick an OS.
xorollo@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
Before it was Pixel, the Nexus phones were sometimes made by Moto. I’d wait. They were great phones, and I’ve used moto on Android recently when the pixel prices went too high for my budget at that time. Was very happy with it, and got a lot of use out of it. I don’t expect buggy when graphene support switches.
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Buy a fairphone
magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Lemme know when fairphone has a re-lockable bootloader to allow for choice of OS.
fdnomad@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Does anyone know when such devices are expected to hit the market? Within 2 years would be nice
mrodri89@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I’m kinda excited for this phone. But I’m unemployed so I probably won’t get it. 😂
Im28xwa@lemdro.id 2 weeks ago
Yo other companies can you just pretend it is Apple who is doing it so that you will copy this and announce it next day?
umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
i hope keep this up until i need a new phone
maplesaga@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Anyone know a release date, I was looking at getting a Pixel for it soon.
rmrf@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Part of their next gen release, so probably 1 year after their most recent refresh cycle
Aberration13@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How long have they been selling devices that use graphene?
XLE@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
This will be a first, if the plan materializes.
Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
oldest phone was pixel 6, basically when google switched to tensor and added the hardware and software requirements needed for graphene team to support it.
super_user_do@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
Ultra based Motorola
MattGade@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Does this count for al Motorola phones?
XLE@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
You definitely shouldn’t buy a Motorola now with the hope that Graphene will get added to it in the future. This could apply exclusively to pre-flashed devices, for all we know.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
no. most or all of their current offerings are very locked down
dan1101@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Finally a reason to upgrade my 5 year old Moto.
rockerface@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
As a current Motorola user, I might just stick with the brand when it comes the time for replacement
napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I can see how big corporations would use this for security reasons. Niche but great market.
emb@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hopefully this initiative sticks, sounds like my next phone (eventually) might just be Motorola/Graphene.
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
As long as they have basic shit like NFC or wireless charging. One of the main reasons I stopped buying them. 2nd was the tablet sized screens.
DarkSirrush@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
Because its grapheneos you will likely have NFC, but whether you have tap-for-payment options will be a crapshoot, especially in North America, unless having an official vendor changes things with grapheneos’s play store integrity issue (which is doubtful).
excursion22@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
I quite like my Razr. I’m sure if they’re aiming to be a true alternative to the mainstream OSs, they’ll be including many of the mainstream features
jj4211@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Motorola was kind of sluggish/selective about those, but they seem to pretty consistently have those features now. Always worth double checking.
100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
I’m old school, I remember when NFC was used for stuff like domotics
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
One of the largest complaints of Pixels I’ve seen is that they’re too expensive. These will cost twice as much.
JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
I don’t think I have ever heard that for the a series. That if fact, I have always heard that it is just about the best price-value on the market, the downside being that it is google and no SD card slot (which is common now). They use the flagship chip in it still, right?
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 weeks ago
What? When I was buying my last phone prev gen Pixel cost me 1/3 of what I would have to pay for a Fairphone. It’s the exact opposite, less popular phones with long support are way too expensive compared to Pixel.
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Historically, the problem with Motorola hasn’t been their os, it’s been their hardware, it’s just usually not very good when compared to the competition.
jj4211@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I grant that Motorola may neglect to go top of the line (e.g. there’s no ‘flagship grade’ non-folding phone on offer right now), but price wise, at least in the US, it seems to be in line with other options and the cheaper options are generally motorola.
Is this US or elsewhere? What are the better value competition in the mid-lower range.
timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Big disagree here. Still offer a jack, SD card, etc. Worth way more to me than a high end processor that I don’t use any more than a mid range one.