I cannot believe this is what it took for a boycott to go more mainstream. Tell me more about how so many people have no respect for the environment or the artists who’s work they gleefully consume.
"Cancel ChatGPT" movement goes mainstream after OpenAI closes deal with U.S. Department of War — as Anthropic refuses to surveil American citizens
Submitted 6 hours ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to technology@lemmy.world
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cloudskater@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
They went from standing with Anthropic to throwing them under the bus real fast
floofloof@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
timestatic@feddit.org 4 hours ago
They probably have been working on a potential agreement with openai for a while now. They just hastily finished it in response to anthropic. But I don’t know if they will keep the red lines anthropic has demanded in place
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 5 hours ago
$$$
porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 5 hours ago
Which they badly need, they are in an incredibly risky position right now. It’s very disappointing, this deal might save them from collapse for quite a while.
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
It was always about the money.
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
Anthropic still is scum for being completely fine helping America oppress the rest of the world.
perishthethought@piefed.social 5 hours ago
mainstream
I’ll believe that when my sisters start saying this. Till then, it’s just us privacy fans screaming in a dark cave, enjoying the echo.
Xorg_Broke_Again@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
It’s always like this. We get a ton of articles on how everyone is suddenly boycotting/deleting [insert thing] but when you ask someone in real life, they usually have no idea what you’re talking about.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net 4 hours ago
so explain it to them gently. you won’t reach everyone, but you’ll reach more people than accepting this status quo
Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 6 hours ago
Windows Central shouldn’t be parroting the U.S. government in mislabeling the Department of Defense.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
I mean it’s at least accurate now, there is no defense when you are starting war with everyone
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
But MAGA only voted for the department of pedophiles. This is an outrage.
lmdnw@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Especially since the Trump admin already made it clear that they don’t respect preferred pronouns. Why should we use the DoD’s preferred pronouns of Department of War instead of the Department of Defense name it legally has? DoW is just DoD’s preferred pronoun.
Ugurcan@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Windows Central should be advocating for return of Windows Phone.
joyjoy@lemmy.zip 6 hours ago
Its like it joined a cult and got a new name.
huppakee@piefed.social 1 hour ago
I think you’re in denial. If they had changed the name of Homeland Security into the dep of National Security for example, you probably wouldn’t say that media outlets is parroting the us government.
Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 1 hour ago
Because it’s still officially called the Department of Defense; only Congress can rename it.
More broadly, it illustrates the administration’s use of illegal boat strikes and regime change as a foreign policy tool.
totally_human_emdash_user@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 hour ago
I would.
totally_human_emdash_user@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 hours ago
Yeah, there are all sorts of ways in which standing up to the administration is hard, but calling something by its actual name should be a relatively easy thing to do!
skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
They aren’t defending shit
Cruel@programming.dev 1 hour ago
This honestly strikes me as a story people don’t understand. Mass surveillance is not lawful and the government thus agreed not to do that. However, they still needed the guardrails removed. People interpret this as them wanting mass surveillance, but that’s not necessarily true.
I work for a company that uses AI for legal work, processing and analyzing court cases, discovery documents, etc. We had problems with AI models like Gemini and GPT refusing to do what we needed because of guardrails against violence and abuse of minors. It refused to discuss and analyze cases that involved murders described in detail, or cases involving child molestation, etc. We weren’t used it for unlawful purposes, very much the opposite.
I feel like if people knew that we, like the DoD, had to use uncensored models that allowed such things, people would complain “Wow, you guys are trying to remove guardrails for child porn and violence! How terrible!”
Is it so shocking that a military needs their AI to work with such things even if they’re not implementing it? They cannot afford to have AI in critical moments be like “sorry, my guidelines say I can’t help with this.”
This seems like the time Trump advised against pregnant women against using Tylenol. So people started buying and using it in protest. This is yet another reaction to Trump punishing them, but people are pretending Anthropic is making a stand for the people and OpenAI is somehow not. It’s not that simple.
testusr@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Shame on you and your company for introducing AI at all into such sensitive matters. This issue is not just about security and privacy but about outsourcing human judgement when human life is on the line.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 4 hours ago
Use for “all lawful means” is quite the grey area considering no one was arrested or fired, or any law updated, for what Snowden leaked. If the NSA does it, no one will arrest the NSA.
David_Eight@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
The Department of War isn’t a real thing. Its called The Department of Defense. That’s not my opinion either, its officially/legally called The Department of Defense.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 hour ago
I think you missed some news. There is officially a Department of War again.
totally_human_emdash_user@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 hour ago
Only Congress can change the name of the Department of Defense, and not only has it not passed any legislation to do so, but the most National Defense Authorization Act, which was passed after Trump’s executive order, only mentions the “Department of Defense” and never the “Department of War”.
So, no, there is not officially a Department of War, there continues to only officially be a Department of Defense.
Miaou@jlai.lu 4 hours ago
Department of War is more apt, however
TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
From DoD tu dud real quick
pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
war.gov
totally_human_emdash_user@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
The fact that the Trump administration can create web sites saying whatever it pleases does not make the name change legitimate.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
After Anthropic refused flat out to agree to apply Claude AI to autonomous weapons and mass surveillance of American citizens, OpenAI jumps right into bed with the United States Department of War.
I think people are a little bit missing the important bit. This government wants to send out autonomous weapons along with mass surveillance. They’ll just murder anyone they want, if the AI gets it right in the first place.
Here we are in Running Man and no one sees it coming. This is why Stephen King is so against this administration. He predicted it.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 hour ago
Also, mass surveillance. Not surveillance itself. And fully autonomous weapons.
Don’t get distracted by the birdy folks, Anthropic is not your friend, or some great protector of the American people. They were already deeply embedded in the US Government as their product was the only one certified for use with classified documents.
They weren’t standing up for us, they were splitting hairs on exactly how far they’d openly go.
I’ve also seen statements that Anthropic’s stance against fully autonomous weapons was simply due to results not yet being as consistent as they were comfortable putting their name on, not due to any opposition towards use in/with weaponry.
OpenAI also claims to have the same limitations. So someone’s lying.
Hackworth@piefed.ca 51 minutes ago
Amodei said in an interview that the DoW altered their contract to appear to compromise, so that it looked like they were agreeing to those use limits. But that legalese accompanying the updates rendered that text pointless. Basically, “We won’t use Claude for mass domestic surveillance and full automated killing, unless we really want to.” My guess is OpenAI signed the exact same contract and just pretended not to understand the toothlessness of the guardrails.
floofloof@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
I can’t believe people were paying for it in the first place.
morto@piefed.social 3 hours ago
One more boycott I can’t join because I never touched the company lol
pemptago@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
I can’t believe now we (Americans) have to pay for it with our tax dollars.
GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 5 hours ago
Many times it’s mandatory. Like when your employer forces it upon you and makes it automatically invoke ChatGPT whenever you open a pull request.
patrick@lemmy.bestiver.se 2 hours ago
Your employer is making you pay for it?
turdburglar@piefed.social 6 hours ago
nice headline, but wtf is windows central?
zikzak025@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
A Microsoft-oriented news outlet.
Think similar to MacRumors/9to5Mac/AppleInsider for Apple.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 5 hours ago
There are so many levels to hell I haven’t even heard of.
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 hours ago
Good luck with that dude
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
huh, I was right all along.
AI is fascism!
Ancalagon@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Oh the stupidity, they already burn cash in dumpsters, they were always supplementing that with the users paying for it. The billionaires don’t give a shit, it’s a surveillance system not a chat box.
Unattributed@feddit.online 6 hours ago
Honestly - it’s too fucking late. Anyone who had an account with OpenAI and used that garbage is already an abbetor and/or accomplice to anything that is done by Hegseth and his henchmen.
floofloof@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
Cancelling now is still better late than never.
cloudskater@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
That’s true, people can grow and change. Heck, I used CharacterAI for a very, very brief period when I was lying to myself about it’s impact on not just the world and artists but myself too. I quickly realized I couldn’t defend it, and I didn’t like how it was affecting me personally either so I quickly got rid of it. Been strongly anti-"AI” ever since.
Unattributed@feddit.online 6 hours ago
Canceling now only means you are not continuing to contribute to the war atrocities that the technology is going to be used for. If you had an account and used it, you have already contributed.
funkajunk@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
sybau
so_pitted_wabam@lemmy.zip 6 hours ago
Hell, yeah SCAM ALTMAN men can get BENT. I cancelled mine in solidarity with the Feb 13th crowd.
goatinspace@feddit.org 3 hours ago
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
Like with ANY kind of science (and, like it or not, that is what “AI” research and products are), the money comes from governments. Real Genius is one of my all time favorite movies (and has influenced my life WAY more than it should) but… anyone with an advanced STEM degree can tell you that the reality is you 100% know where your money is coming from. And you are either a naive moron or you figure out why the US (or UK or FR or RU or CN or…) government is so interested in your work to rapidly generate connections between social media posts and your buddy’s really efficient graph search algorithm and…
I am all for shitting on openai/chatgpt for immediately bending over backwards for the us government. Let’s not pretend anthropic/claude are paragons of virtues and privacy.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Ha! I fucking called that after they claimed they also were taking a hard line. Complete bullshit.
timewarp@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Makes sense that the current government would switch to sister molester AI
paraphrand@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
“You’ll come crawling back when we turn on AI generated porn and virtual girlfriends.” -Sama
boogiebored@lemmy.world 10 minutes ago
So many companies are cozying up to the fascist regime as this is the late stage of capitalism.
A list of some of these companies: https://x.com/vxunderground/status/2024200204296061089?s=20
floofloof@lemmy.ca 7 minutes ago
Your link isn’t valid.