huh, I was right all along.
AI is fascism!
"Cancel ChatGPT" movement goes mainstream after OpenAI closes deal with U.S. Department of War — as Anthropic refuses to surveil American citizens
Submitted 2 months ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to technology@lemmy.world
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GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 months ago
so_pitted_wabam@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Hell, yeah SCAM ALTMAN men can get BENT. I cancelled mine in solidarity with the Feb 13th crowd.
Paddy66@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
I would assume that Anthropic’s stance is mostly performative. But while people are in boycotting mood they could solve the surveillance problem by quitting ALL big tech products. Here’s our site that lists all the ethical, non-spyware alternatives:
www.rebeltechalliance.org/stopusingbigtech.html
(Please share with your friends and family - we have zero marketing budget - thank you!)
edgyspazkid@lemmy.wtf 2 months ago
This site is amazing! Simple and very informative and I really liked the privacy policy last sentence.
Paddy66@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Thank you! Any ideas you have about how we can get the word out are very welcome…
tostane@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
Amazon, gemini, perplexity are also in the us goverment baby bottle nipples.
Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 2 months ago
It’s because this administration wants to use AI/ML to create a list of domestic strike targets based on people who have said things dumpy doesn’t like.
Cruel@programming.dev 2 months ago
This honestly strikes me as a story people don’t understand. Mass surveillance is not lawful and the government thus agreed not to do that. However, they still needed the guardrails removed. People interpret this as them wanting mass surveillance, but that’s not necessarily true.
I work for a company that uses AI for legal work, processing and analyzing court cases, discovery documents, etc. We had problems with AI models like Gemini and GPT refusing to do what we needed because of guardrails against violence and abuse of minors. It refused to discuss and analyze cases that involved murders described in detail, or cases involving child molestation, etc. We weren’t used it for unlawful purposes, very much the opposite.
I feel like if people knew that we, like the DoD, had to use uncensored models that allowed such things, people would complain “Wow, you guys are trying to remove guardrails for child porn and violence! How terrible!”
Is it so shocking that a military needs their AI to work with such things even if they’re not implementing it? They cannot afford to have AI in critical moments be like “sorry, my guidelines say I can’t help with this.”
This seems like the time Trump advised against pregnant women against using Tylenol. So people started buying and using it in protest. This is yet another reaction to Trump punishing them, but people are pretending Anthropic is making a stand for the people and OpenAI is somehow not. It’s not that simple.
testusr@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Shame on you and your company for introducing AI at all into such sensitive matters. This issue is not just about security and privacy but about outsourcing human judgement when human life is on the line.
Cruel@programming.dev 2 months ago
Wait. You still trust human judgment?
My company has facilitated the filings of hundreds of pre se litigants who cannot afford lawyers, helped swamped public defenders with more cases than they could ever hope to defend without just making plea deals.
Meanwhile you probably sit around complaining about prison industrial complex and corrupt justice system. Doing nothing. Worthless.
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 months ago
The military, the department of government responsible for mass murder, should not have any fucking AI in their system, absolutely anywhere. Doubly so without any sort of guardrails.
Cruel@programming.dev 2 months ago
Why? I can’t think of any reason that would not also preclude their usage if all computer assisted tools.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
There are bad actors in government. People working those cases like the ones you did have way more integrity than the bad faith actors in the DoD. There are bad faith actors in governments breaking the law every day.
eyelevel@lemmy.world 2 months ago
[deleted]Cruel@programming.dev 2 months ago
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Government can certainly do illegal things. But why ever enter into a contract with ANY organization or business if you’re concerned that they can violate the terms?
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Generally not.
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Even if they aren’t, Anthropic started business with them months ago. Backing out now for this reason would be a pretense.
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XLE@piefed.social 2 months ago
I have a question about those guardrails. At any point, did any of your accounts get disabled for discussing abuse in this (or any) context?
I(’m guessing this happened zero times, which probably means those guardrails are just irritating suggestions designed to keep you prompting…)
Cruel@programming.dev 2 months ago
Not cancelled. But they may have been flagged internally, I don’t know.
We weren’t violating their terms, only violating their built in model guidelines.
But even adjusting prompts, it didn’t yield reliable results. So we have to use uncensored open weights models for many things. It’s not SOTA, but it’s better than nothing.
StopTech@lemmy.today 2 months ago
The “Cancel ChatGPT movement” doesn’t appear to be mentioned in the article, but other outlets say hashtags like #CancelChatGPT are trending on X.
SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The lesser of two evils is still…evil. Anthropic’s hands aren’t clean either…they’re just minimally less caked in blood.
BUT
One can hope that this is the ‘turn towards the light side’. If ‘don’t be evil’ can finally be made profitable, well, self interest might actually be a lever for good. Ha.
I wish there was a clearly, unambiguously good guy in the cloud AI space. I don’t know how to make that work with economies of scale being what they are. Yes, that includes Lumo.ai - though one has faint hope on that end to.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Like with ANY kind of science (and, like it or not, that is what “AI” research and products are), the money comes from governments. Real Genius is one of my all time favorite movies (and has influenced my life WAY more than it should) but… anyone with an advanced STEM degree can tell you that the reality is you 100% know where your money is coming from. And you are either a naive moron or you figure out why the US (or UK or FR or RU or CN or…) government is so interested in your work to rapidly generate connections between social media posts and your buddy’s really efficient graph search algorithm and…
I am all for shitting on openai/chatgpt for immediately bending over backwards for the us government. Let’s not pretend anthropic/claude are paragons of virtues and privacy.
trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 2 months ago
Fuck OpenAI
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 months ago
I last used chatGPT in 2024. Never found it satisfying.
timewarp@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Makes sense that the current government would switch to sister molester AI
m3t00@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Think of the 3rd grade math, made up charts they willl trot out about #kill r#atios. ‘ask ai about truth’ /s
m3t00@lemmy.world 2 months ago
hmm, not to sound smug but, you people need a hashtag to tell which way the wind blows. ‘going viral’ is such a ‘breaking news’ clickbait. windows users need to get a clue, that part is true. i kicked my brother out of my house for kept tryting to show me how easy ai made art. is os political now? you can guess his other issues. Rambling now
ripcord@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Uh ok
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 months ago
I’ve been “canceling” them since they first showed up and I used it for 5 minutes and realized how terrible it is, but nice to see others catching up.
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Good luck with that dude
paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 months ago
“You’ll come crawling back when we turn on AI generated porn and virtual girlfriends.” -Sama
goatinspace@feddit.org 2 months ago
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Ha! I fucking called that after they claimed they also were taking a hard line. Complete bullshit.
ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Not a great look, no.
lumettaria@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Now imagine my shock when I had done the swap from ChatGPT to Claude the day before the news about Anthropic’s (now backpedalled) deal. Anyway, I deleted ChatGPT and Gemini accounts and degoogled my life while I was at it.