Fun fact: Android is older.
Steve Jobs: The difference of stealing yourself vs being stolen from
Submitted 1 year ago by fer0n@lemm.ee to [deleted]
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newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
designatedhacker@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Technically correct, but it was originally aimed at Blackberry. pcworld.com/…/original_android_prototype_revealed…
Apple pioneered a moderately useful mobile browser and fully touch screen UI (except for the home button).
They’ve been copying each other ever since, to the point where I watch the WWDC keynote thinking “they didn’t already have THAT!?” most of the time.
ChronosWing@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
More like Apple copies an android feature that is more than a decade old then claims it as some kind of innovation.
Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
To this day whenever I hear people say Apple invented the smart phone I sigh. Maybe that’s technically true or not depending on how you want to count it. But what irks me is how people think it was brilliant. Like bro, I was browsing on the go with my Zune and PSP years before the iPhone came out. The only things we can thank Apple for are the two worst parts of a smart phone. Apps and the phone.
victron@programming.dev 1 year ago
He died, all right. Never letting go of his bullshit, whether it was alternative medicine or whatever.
dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
He’s been raised to divinity almost. Even now, not a month goes by when some major outlet would write a story on what a genius he was, same goes for hackernews.
Odd that had he lived, you’d be seeing him on Joe Rogan or posting some antivax bs.
victron@programming.dev 1 year ago
Holy shit! Imagine if he was alive during fucking COVID, I can totally see what you said lmao
Agent641@lemmy.world 1 year ago
All the fruit and none of the showers could save him
Flabble@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
I miss when Steve Jobs was the most overtly garbage trashman in the tech industry. Well, at least he’s resting peacefully in hell.
Qyuzu@lemdro.id 1 year ago
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Those are weird stats lumping in phone OSes with desktop/notebook OSes.
GerryMandering@lemm.ee 1 year ago
while excluding other types of computer like embedded devices, servers and whatnot
candybrie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Considering how many people use a phone as their primary computing device now, it makes sense to me.
peter@lemmy.emerald.show 1 year ago
I think hed be pretty happy with that! That 13% may be less, but its all from 1 manufacturer or brand. They dont need to share a piece of the pie!
Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 year ago
Android4Life! But come on, give up that graph that combines mobile + desktop operating systems! They are totally, completely different and should be kept separate. But only based on who buys them, who uses them, who supports them, customer vs corporate customers, etc…
BallsInTheShredder@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I like that “unknown” is OSX’s biggest competitor
jarfil@lemmy.world 1 year ago
1% for Linux? Come on, Android is Linux.
IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 1 year ago
Why does this asshole live rent free in all your heads? I never hear Apple fanboys bitch about that creep Andy Rubin.
oatscoop@midwest.social 1 year ago
Because his company was (and continues to be) a powerful force acting against consumer rights.
He was also an a self absorbed asshole.
Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 1 year ago
People like people like them.
FancyFeaster@lemmy.fail 1 year ago
Did he forget about windows mobile pda phones that predated the iPhone? I had one of these before the iPhone was a thing: m.gsmarena.com/o2_xda_iis-933.php
Bipta@kbin.social 1 year ago
iPhone undeniably brought the technology forward by years, even if only in terms of software. I don't even like iOS, but it seems disingenuous to compare iPhone to those, or the Samsung tablets, or anything that came before it.
JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Here in the UK it took over 3 years, after the initial release of the iPhone, for it to even support MMS messaging. Most people around me had Blackberries until Apple actually gave reason for them to consider switching, which took years. It was largely considered to be like the iPods before it: focused on the fashion/‘cool’ aspect of it.
I would not say they brought technology forward, and I’d go as far as to say the strive to bring forward functionalities of the iPhones improved after Jobs (I understand this is a hot take and may result in downvotes, just my opinion based on local experience).
FancyFeaster@lemmy.fail 1 year ago
While apple did improve the design, they mostly made it “cool”. Before that they were “nerd” phones. The Motorola V3 was a “cooler “phone at the time until the iPhone came out.
fer0n@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I’m with you, but it seems like this post got taken over by passionate haters so we’re in the minority here ^^
BallsInTheShredder@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I miss when devices came with infrared transmitters… Also it had a mini sim & built-in Bluetooth/wifi at that time, wow.
wason@lemmy.ninja 1 year ago
Xiaomi phones still come with infrared, mostly used to control TVs, fans, AC units, etc.
GreenMario@lemm.ee 1 year ago
He was just Salty 🧂.
PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
At least normal billionaires pretend to be fans of free markets where competition keeps prices in check. Steve Jobs was just honest enough to admit he’s a piece of shit
Stinkywinks@lemmy.world 1 year ago
He says great artist steal then says he wants to destroy android for stealing? Like he did anything but hype shit up on stage
sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
It’s a good example of how people’s morals vary greatly based on their present situation, rather than being some kind of deeply held, unchanging foundation. What people believe is good and bad is largely a function of where they happen to be at the moment.
imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee 1 year ago
He hates artists
Never_Sm1le@lemdro.id 1 year ago
Apple, with the iphone, did pioneering capacitive touch screen and biometric. Android brought smartphone to the mass and trigger the stupid camera war.
Norgur@kbin.social 1 year ago
Apple-Fanboii-Checklist:
- Trace everything back to the original iPhone
- Be sure to mention Apple's Marketing buzzwords like "biometry" or "live photo"
- Offhandedly treat "Android" as "product for the common masses" with a hint of snobbery
- Treat "The Android" as a monolithic entity instead of a licensed OS that has nothing to do with the devices it runs on per se
- Call anything that was a marketing focus for Android-Using-Companies but not for Apple for a time some derogatory name because only what Apple did was right
Never_Sm1le@lemdro.id 1 year ago
Nice try though, have been an android user all my life and only own one ipad. Typical stupud online generalization.
stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’ve never seen someone shit and vomit so hard into a 5 point list before. Congrats on that one, go grab some water.
- Named the one pioneering thing they actually did
- Didn’t use that word but biometrics have nothing implicitly to do with iPhone. Regardless, imagine referring to a named functionality by its own name - so controversial. You’re just trying to take words away from people.
- You’re being paranoid, where do you see snobbery in this comment please point it out if you’re willing to defend this point
- Again, imagine referring to something as it is socially known. Android, pedantically, is an OS yes but everyone in the fucking world when they hear “android or iPhone” know that means an iPhone or a phone running android. 🙄
- What the fuck are you smoking
Cool username by the way. What’s the origin? Sounds awfully a lot like a specific slur I know of. A trolls MO certainly would line up with whatever your shit post of a comment was.
DrQuint@lemm.ee 1 year ago
capacitative touch screen
Motorola PDA’s form 1999 already had it.
Never_Sm1le@lemdro.id 1 year ago
Give the credit where its due. Android was designed to be used on a device similar to BlackBerry (Sooner), the success of the first iPhone made them switch to a touch design from the ground up. Your Motorola didn’t start any trend. That’s why I use the word “pioneering”. Use shit just to claim “first” without making any major impact is called “gimmick”, like the 2k screen on my old LG G3 (hate it).
Empty barrel truly make the most noise.
stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Jsyk I downvoted not because you’re necessarily wrong but because you were a dick when the other dude hadn’t even engaged in anything like that
Not very cash money of u fren
jarfil@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The “stupid camera war” killed the amount of UFO and ghost sightings, while increasing the sightings of meteors and police brutality, so not all that stupid.
Fontasia@feddit.nl 1 year ago
Maybe he should have said “The best artist is the one with the best lawyer.”
DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Steve Jobs was the Elon Musk of his time, he just died too soon for everyone to see him for the villain he was.
OscarRobin@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Steve Jobs did at least actually do things. Musk just buys things and claims he did them.
SternburgExport@feddit.de 1 year ago
Nah Jobs didn’t do anything himself. From Wozniaks first computer up to the multitouch display for the iPhone, all of these things were just bought/stolen/copied. Jobs just knew how to put these technologies into something that would sell.
jarfil@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Didn’t Musk start SpaceX? That’s, at least, one thing. Too bad he can’t stick to it.
porkins@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
This sells Musk short. He is making smart entrepreneurial decisions for the most part. I hate the monkey testing controversy though.
stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Tru
Korne127@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Woah; that’s just so wildly inaccurate; I have no idea what to even say.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
He did father a child he denied to the day he died, intentionally screwed Woz out of his fair share of the apple fortune, killed himself by treating cancer with quackery. Jobs is probably more self made, but that’s about it.
DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
That’s true, he was not nearly as bad as Musk. I was mainly talking about how he’s a general asshole who steals from others and is revered by techbros.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
did he ever reconcile with his kid? hard to imagine just ignoring your own child like that…
nuxetcrux@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Who, Elon or Steve? /s