Submitted 1 day ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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I love science. But like the way catholics don’t know anything real about god (obviously), I don’t know anything real about science. I just know (or believe) that science can provide real answers and if it does something wrong, it will be corrected. I cannot provide those answers, but I trust in the people who can.
Science is like my religion. I am a simple believer, scientists are the monks and scribes, science communicators are the pastors and preachers.
Idk at least the scientific method includes some kind of testing process that religion just doesn’t
My take on their comment was that they know this but consider it their ‘religion’ anyways because they don’t understand the process and so, in the absence of true understanding, take it on faith alone that the process actually works out
But the evidence is all around us even if you don’t understand the processes themselves: Science built us a moon landing, religion built us the dark ages
I know it is a hard comparison to make, but if you don’thave faith in the scientific method, you get idiots like… populists. And they can just call “fake news” and be done with it.
Truth is not an absolute value. The science can be clear as day, but if it is not supported by the people, it will simply be rejected. You gotta have people believe in science for it to be valuable.
You sound learn advanced calculus, there’s a small set of rules to follow and personally I think it’s fun.
Then you can choose to never do it by hand, but understand the principals that govern so much of our world.
How would one do this if they were say, someone that took algebra 20 years ago and didn’t do particularly well and then white knuckled “statistics for non STEM majors” as a requirement for something else and had no other maths background?
What are the steps?
This is actually one of the better takes that I’ve seen on the image. Usually the top post is something to the effect of “don’t tell me what to like!”
But the truth is considerably more nuanced. Science is slow-moving, often boring, and can be incredibly frustrating to do long-term. People get the benefit of summarized very old results complete with diagrams and images and animations and whatever have you.
You can go on YouTube and learn quite a bit about quantum physics and black holes without really needing to have a deep understanding of what’s going on. I do this as my PhD is in a completely different area from physics.
But ultimately for most people what you’re liking isn’t the science but the results once they’re cleaned up. They’re fundamentally two different things. But there is absolutely no reason you can’t be a fan of the idea of science.
See your mistake was starting with advanced calculus when they don’t even know basic calculus yet
I appreciate moves and TV without wanting to be an actor.
I appreciate science and what it does without wanting to be a scientist.
I like to watch PBS spacetime on Youtube. It keeps me humble.
I understand 10% of it on a good day.
Same, I just like his soothing voice though
Advanced calculus? In this house, we use numerical methods!
“I love Lemmy” mfers when they’re not self housing their own instance so they can test charges before submitting a PR to the repo.
Kurzgesagt hentai? Like with the birds?
Sounds sexycational
in a nut shell
A former coworker was a mathematician in an engineering position and he was so happy when he got to use his calculus once.
I’m officially triggered. There’s no such thing as “advanced calculus”. Yes, I’m aware of Loomis and Sternberg. That book was literally written to stroke the authors’ ego.
Differential geometry along with complex and real analysis could perhaps be considered advanced calculus?
:yea:
me: “I would have job stability if I studied a harder physical science, but there’s no way I could do all that maths. I should study plants. I can touch them, so surely they aren’t just maths.”
plants: exist in fucking calculus
I unironically wanted to do chemistry or biology back in the day, but couldn’t make the grades in maths and had trouble with the calculations. Hell, even I took Stats 101 3x in college… but any time I used it in applied science I was a wizard… Then, after 30 I realised I had dyscalculia. 🤦♀️ You have talents to contribute, but the hard part is figuring out where you belong. That kind of thing takes a little luck, though, not merit.
I’ve suspected a dyscalculia diagnosis for a while. Everything up to elementary algebra clicks with me in some fundamental way where I can intuitively do a four digit multiplication table in my head or a pharmacological weight calculation in an ambulance. It’s just like any other knowledge base to me. But then everything after that, at least through the high-level trigonometry and general calculus classes I took along with the sciences that are equation-heavy like chemistry/physics, feels like I’m illiterate no matter how much I read. Meanwhile classmates in those labs were doing the same work as intuitively as the practical side of medicine comes to me.
Applied science is definitely the route for me to take either way. I like doing anti-Cartesian science with a sense of praxis to it. I’d be shitty at the level of programming or biochemistry it takes to be a good research horticulturist, but I can interpret those studies and use them as best practices while turning my city into a living lab for my politics.
Kurgehazh hentai?
Bet there is rule34 of those bird. Never looked it up but the rule does not lie.
*birbs
rule 35 covers for it after all
Or the heavy statistics….
(quietly goes back to looking at stamps)
I love engineering mother fuckers when the engineering is actually watching and talking shit and not actually advanced calculus
What exactly is advanced calculus? Abstract algebra, functional analysis or something else?
Gauchy theorem and so
I would think at most institutions it would be calc 3 and beyond, or pretty close to?
A lot of majors don’t take beyond 1 or 2.
Nothing. It’s a meaningless term. Some people use it to say “hard calculus” (multivariate, pdes, etc) and I suspect that’s how it’s being used here but, historically, it has mostly been used to refer to the introduction to real analysis courses found in books spike Spivak and Apostol.
Probably infinite series’?
What about Action Lab?
TheImpressiveX@lemmy.today 1 day ago
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brrt@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Science has a really nice butt though, ngl
LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 1 day ago
gatekeeping loser shit tbh
oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 1 day ago
it might technically be gatekeeping, but it’s not arbitrary, or even a very high bar. Science just involves doing the scientific method, which anyone, even the guy in the comic, can do. What he’s actually doing, and what a lot of “pop science” stuff is, is trivia. Trivia is awesome, but not really science.
Calling science loser shit is a bold stance. Aren’t you a fellow believer and practitioner in the “immortal science”?