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• tomiant@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Japanese salmon nigiri weren’t a thing until the 1980’s when Norway launched a trade push to open up a new market there.

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  • axexrx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That also makes sense from a tech standpoint. Ocean salmon aren’t safe for sushi, they have have too many parasites. You need to either catch them from the river they spawn in before they get to the ocean for the first time, or from a lake, which iirc Japan didnt have any lakes with salmon populations. (Harvesting from streams at scale is also a bad idea, because they wont have had a chance to breed so youre going to be killing off a portion of the population)

    Even then its dicey; for raw, you really want farmed salmon, that are bred in a tank, with no parasites in the water.

    So it wasnt until global shipping and really the rise of factory farmed fish, that safe enough populations of salmon existed.

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    • nwtreeoctopus@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Modern flash freezing also keeps the quality high while killing the parasites.

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    • tomiant@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s right! It just blew my mind when I learned about it because it feels like it should be this ancient Japanese ur-sushi, yet it’s a very modern invention, or perhaps innovation is a better word here.

      It’s like chili in Asian food is not older than some three hundred years, before that they had their various spice mixes to achieve a similar result. Or tomatoes in Italy, same thing, and pasta as well. I mean potatoes came to Europe in the 1700’s…

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    • Akasazh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Afaik salmon are farmed in large cages in the sea (fjords)

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  • Gathorall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Note that Japan already traded with the Nordics quite extensively, including some more traditional fish options, and the parasite-free salmon was promoted on top of a well-established trade that Norway wanted to expand with a fish they produced in abundance.

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• robocall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The crunchwrap was created in 2005

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  • arrow74@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If time travel is ever invented I’d love to give a plaeolithic hunter gatherer a crunch wrap

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    • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A modern day big gulp would probably kill a caveman.

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    • Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I feel like that would ruin their life. Like spoilers for a good ending that they’ll never see.

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  • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I heard you could send a strongly worded crunch wrap through the mail, instead of hiring a lawyer. But one of the guys on that podcast turned out to be a creep and the joke fucking dematerialized.

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  • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    no shit? Ciabatta sounds like a culturally significant thing that’s been around for a long time, crunchwrap sounds like a consumer food product that was invented in modern times

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• renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I only ever eat the original^TM bread from 10000 years ago

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  • FatVegan@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I only eat bread from the recipe that they found in Ötzi’s stomach

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    • Dicska@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I only eat bread from Ötzi’s stomach.

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    • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Why did they have a recipe in their stomach?

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  • exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think you’re describing beer.

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• DagwoodIII@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shropshire_Blue

  Shropshire Blue cheese was invented in the 1970s.

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  • addie@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just need a chutney that was developed in the 90s, and then we can make a delicious chutney+blue ciabatta sandwich that’s all younger than you think.

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• can@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Wtf

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• Pudutr0n@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  the future is now, old man.

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• splashgarden@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I will let ciabatta’s infancy slide because it is a top tier bread

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  • nomy@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Counterpoint:

    Obviously all the good breads already been invented.

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• tomiant@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s also an inferior bread.

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  • blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Don’t be mean, it’s not it’s fault you can’t pronounce ciabatta

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    • tias@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If anyone is wondering: youtu.be/Coq2hQ7GHQc

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    • tomiant@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I speak Italian, though.

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    • psycotica0@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Chatta-newfy-doofy-poopy

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  • anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    To be fair, most bread is inferior when compared this:
    Image

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    • drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Nothing beats rye multi grain. Put some butter and cheese on it and I can legit live straight on it for days Image

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• sundray@lemmus.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Did they invent the little ciabattas they use for sandwich plates at the same time, or did those come later?

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  • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You can thank Rick Moranis for that

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• hakase@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  DDPTE

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  • Hupf@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Press Ϝ to pay respects

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• Johanno@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I don’t care when someone invited the bread. I care how it tastes.

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  • AquaTofana@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tbf, if they invited them too late, that’s just bad breadiquette.

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    • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Try to invent new bread in today’s social media landscape and you’d be toast

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    • Johanno@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Fixed it

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