Savvy countries will discover there’s a way to mitigate the harm incurred by Trump’s tariffs
They already have. It takes 1.5 to 2 years for trade deals to be negotiated and then put into effect. In the coming years when these deals take effect, and trade is routing itself around the US as much as possible rather than through it, people in the US are going to learn a very difficult economic lesson.
On the plus side, maybe the notion of American Exceptionalism will diminish a bit, which is long overdue.
Etterra@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
Isn’t it fun living through the decline phase of our civilization?
Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I never expected USA to self destruct like they are now. It’s absolutely insane!
Electing Bush Jr. twice was crazy, but electing Trump twice is insane.
Following the trend of elections for the past few decades, USA is on a path to become a totalitarian country.
The Democrats may win the next presidential election if there is one, but by the looks of things, when the pendulum swings again, that will be the end of democracy for USA.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 2 weeks ago
It was not unexpected. Most big powers in history end like that. The rich always want more and eventually start taking it from everybody else, even if it’s detrimental to the future if they nation.
fonix232@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
It was inevitable and kind of expected.
The US wasn't built on that solid of a foundation. In fact the founding fathers have said explicitly that said foundation - the Constitution itself - should be a living document updated regularly by the people, for the people, to reflect the changes in the world and in the people themselves. It was literally written at one of the most prominent times of change, so of course those who saw said change and were responsible for enacting it, weren't idiots who thought things would never change!
The first cracks appeared in the US a hundred years later with the industrial revolution kicking into high gear and transforming the so far mostly rural, self-sufficient communities into manufacturing giants. That's when factory and mining towns began to boom, and when the US truly began to claim its world power status - without adjusting the laws of course since it benefited the handful few who managed to get their fingers deep into those oh so lucrative pies.
And it's not like there haven't been warning signs of the impending capitalist doomsday. Capitalism was literally built on the back of the industrial revolution (which allowed the means of production to transfer into and concentrate in private hands), and immediately people saw the issue with it - no wonder Marx saw the need to work out a competing socioeconomic system that, if you think about it, was truly in the spirit of the American independence and the US Constitution (aka by the people, for the people).
All that capitalist rush? That allowed a handful of people to become obscenely rich, without the curtails of previous obscenely rich (aka kings, royalty, nobles), allowing them to grab power without any of the responsibility. Kings paid with their heads for their wrong decisions, but in the US, that was deemed excessive, so instead y'all elected people who then got paid off by said obscenely rich to go against the people electing them... and the worst that happens was that the elected official got rich, then got replaced by another who got bought out the same way.
And all that money/power concentrated in such a small number of hands would ALWAYS lead to them wanting more and more until they sucked the host dry like a parasite. There's no symbiosis with capitalists because wealth (resources and man-hours) are finite, unlike their greed. And since the US made it harder and harder to amend the constitution, to make that document truly living and serve the people... The fall thus became inevitable.
rayyy@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
USA is on a path to become a shit-hole country - FTFY.
IronBird@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
next we get Alsx Jones/Tucker Carleson ticket, which wins because establishment Dems give Hillary another shot
HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is what happens when 2 generations of lead poisoning brain rot compose the majority of the voting population while the younger generations adopt universal apathy and nihilism
WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
It’ll get better when president Kirk and VP Minaj come through. /S
mikezeman@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I think it entirely depends if the next wave of democrats in charge of governance make any kind of considerable effort to embrace the working class and improve the economic conditions for the average person. As time has shown, they just never fucking do when they’re in charge. That’s why the pendulum keeps swinging further and further to the right - the democrats promise better and cannot remove themselves from their corporate donors enough to actually improve the country for the average person. So when their lives continue to get materially worse under democrats, voters once again swing to the right hoping for a change, only for things to get worse faster and the cycle to continue.
I’m hoping things are bad enough this time for democrats to actually do something. I’m not holding my breath, though.
Valmond@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m so happy to be in the EU. Good luck over there! BTW we had like 100 collapses and 1000 wars before we got to where we are…
Serinus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Don’t get complacent. The EU countries are toying with the idea of collapsing with us. AfD doesn’t seem to be shrinking, and there will be a lot of money and propaganda dumped that way soon.
I hope you’re better at resisting it than we were, but seeing as how we’re all still on vulnerable social media…
ISOmorph@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
How can you say this with a straight face? All fascist parties have record numbers, workers rights are being targeted across the board, digital privacy is a thing of the past. We’re like barely half a step behind. The oligarchy doesn’t care about states or continents. The EU is on the menu just as much as the US
Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You know most Americans are descendants of that historical lesson too right?
MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Civilization? Nah just the collapse of one empire. The rest of the world goes on.
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
The collapse of the United States would have devastating effects on every other country
clot27@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
End of USA will be net positive for huan civilization and its not even close
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
No. It won’t be. But things change. Some buildings crumble. Some are reinforced and kept standing. Where there were streets, new buildings are erected. Where there were rivers and bulwarks, streets are made with pipes underneath.
So this particular building will have to change to avoid crumbling. Well, as it always happens.
Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Rather arrogant to believe the US falling means the decline of our entire civilisation.
Maeve@kbin.earth 2 weeks ago
Lol; that's what the EU common people said about too big to fail, too.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“Civilization” is a big word for a collection of selfish pillagers who barely tolerate each other. It’s certainly “fun” for the rest of the world, lol.