Even Starcraft???
Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows
Submitted 5 months ago by herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.world
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SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I’ve never seen a harder hard-on than the hard-on Lemmy has for Linux.
More power to you guys, I’m just saying, Linux circlejerking represents like a third of the posts I see when browsing All.
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
So you are saying that we should do it harder? Acknowledged boss!
orioler25@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I reckon a result of its reputation as an alternative to “mainstream” sites like Reddit, which is also a STEM-oriented gamer-nerd site disproportionately represented by men. So, tons of dudes on here use Linux professionally and are also of a libertarian mindset that is conducive to Linux evangelism on the basis of an ever-encroaching capitalist authoritarianism.
They’re not wrong, Linux is honestly the best route to a decent desktop experience at this point now that Windows is caught in an AI deathloop and the Linux community is expansive enough to support casual users (I don’t care about Apple stuff, but the cost would detract from the experience certainly). I made the switch when it got to the point that Windows literally took more work to use on a daily basis because of how hostile it has become to the user.
Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
There are women who are also pro Linux.
I’ve used it off and on since the early 2000s, but switched full time last year when they were threatening to put the AI stuff in windows.
Also, being queer and the fear of how many companies are bending the knee to fascism I am concerned with privacy.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Totally.
I’ve been using Windows a long time. I’m actually in IT. Microsoft is definitely going the wrong direction with it. It doesn’t bother me too much because I know how to change what I need to change to make it work the way I want.
It does get old though seeing so many Linux posts all the time. Like, I get it. But over-exposure and fanboying could end up driving people away. I just scroll past. It’s not a big deal. Just felt like pointing it out.
UsedLinuxDealer@lemmy.world 5 months ago
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 5 months ago
I think this is a higher percentage than Windows 11 if you include 16-bit ones from the 90s and early 2000s.
NutWrench@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The only game I couldn’t get to run on Wine was NOLF 1. Everything works except the music, which relies on DirectPlay / DirectMusic.
smokeymcpott@feddit.org 5 months ago
Maybe try protontricks. You can add the libraries needed for directmusic to the game that way. Worked for me this way for gothic.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Okay, real talk.
I know there’s probably 100 videos on this, but I don’t have time to watch any of them right now…
How much performance is lost/gained from using Linux to play games via proton?
I’m certain any game with a native Linux version will work great, I’m mostly concerned with the ones that need some kind of emulation layer.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
colloquially, I hear “5-10% overhead depending on the game and if you’re running mods”
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
On the other hand, some testing has found that running games on Linux with Proton is actually faster than with Windows on the same hardware, because Windows is such a resource hog.
The hardware in in this test being the Legion Go steamdeck rival.
Suavevillain@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Most stuff works outside of system anti-cheatl level multiplayer and some visual novels that can be tough to setup sometimes.
fissionmailed@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Wen vr?
1984@lemmy.today 5 months ago
For me its 100% of games, but sure, havent tried all games that exist…
tias@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
Typically the competitive multiplayer ones fail because of kernel-level anticheat.
gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 5 months ago
This keeps getting repeated as a blanket statement and it irks me a bit. More than half of the top ten most played games on steam on any given day work. There’s a small handful of games that don’t work that fit into the competitive multiplayer genre and an even smaller handful that are actually popular.
To be clear, I’m not irk’ed with you, just that this myth that gets passed around a lot hasn’t caught up to reality.
Top games by player count by daily players (numbers are peak in 24 hrs)(skipping anything that doesn’t qualify as competitive multiplayer):
- CS 2 - ✅ - 1.4 mil
- BF 6 - ❌ - 413k
- Dota 2 - ✅ - 761k
- Pubg - ❌ - 620k
- Arc Raiders - ✅ - 322k
- Apex Legends - ❌ - 155k
- War Thunder - ✅ - 78k
- Delta force - ❌ ✅ (work around exists) - 182k
- Marvel rivals - ✅ - 83k
- Dead by Daylight - ✅ - 66k
- Naraka: Bladepoint - ✅ - 120k
- Rust - ❌ (some servers do work though) - 130k
✅ Top 20 total - 2.83 mil ❌ Top 20 total - 1.5 mil (including Delta force)
Idk. Having just crunched the numbers I guess it’s fair to warn people about some borked Anti-Cheat games but I wish people would caveat by saying the majority of games people play even in the competitive multiplayer scene work. And it’s only going to get better i’d argue, although games like bf6 being a recent launch that didn’t work is a bummer. As the percentage of Linux users climb they’ll be increasingly incentivized to find a solution.
League isn’t on here, that would skew the numbers pro-windows.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Or games from the late '90s and early 2000s 'cause they’re just weird.
Saryn@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Out of curiosity, is this something that can be circumvented by playing in a Windows VM?
arararagi@ani.social 5 months ago
Yeah, and these are biggest ones, Fortnite, LoL, Valorant… They are in that 10% but they are the biggest, so at least people like me that don’t play them should just make the jump already.
Deestan@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The stereotype is of the haughty Linux user, but fuck me all I ever see in these discussions is Windows users being belittling assholes.
Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
I’ve seen so many Windows users come out of nowhere to shit on Linux when gaming comes up. There was the whole thing where a bunch of alpha testers got banned on Ashes of Creation a few weeks ago and the discord just had like half of people in their discord throwing hate around.
Also accusing Linux users of being cheaters… as if game cheats are made for Linux.
VampirePenguin@midwest.social 5 months ago
We tend to come off as haughty when Windows users show up demanding help and being insulting while having put in zero work on understanding their own problem.
roserose56@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Playing Hogwarts legacy at the moment, but I also tested ETS 2 and the tenants.
orosus@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The only game I am not able to make it work on Linux is “The Sims 4”. After installing it on Steam, when clicking on Play, it runs the EA app in the background and tries to start the game, but it doesn’t load. Any suggestion?
dangrousperson@feddit.org 5 months ago
always check protonDB:
Looks like most people are using GloriousEggroll’s version of Proton (ProtonGE) and some are using launch options to disable the EA Launcher.
GE works on Wine at Red Hat and is thus very knowledgeable about windows translations and the stuff he changes about Valves Proton are often merged down the line, its like an unofficial beta release and I’ve had good a experience with Hus proton Versions.
That said, to actually get custom Proton Versions I use “ProtonUp-Qt”(available as flatpak): davidotek.github.io/protonup-qt/
Which downloads different Proton Versions and manages them for you. You can then set the default for all games in the steam settings, or on a game-by-game basis
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Try the GE version of Proton, it’s usually more curring edge.
Mayb this can help: www.protondb.com/app/1222670
orosus@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Thank you so much, it worked installing EA app on Lutris and using ProtonGE 10.25
barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Which I’m sure is much higher than windows games working on windows. Proton is awesome for old games.
python@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I finally switched to Linux just a few days ago when upgrading my laptop’s SSD, and so far I have only opened minecraft to see how it runs - extremely smoothly, even though I could not figure out how to make use the Nvidia GPU. I’d say it runs noticeably better on Linux than it did on Windows.
Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Unless it has changed recently, I think most distros default to running on the Nvidia GPU all the time: Switching back and forth doesn’t always work. (Or at least, that’s how my laptop run with Manjaro)
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 5 months ago
Unfortunately the 10% that don’t include the biggest, most played games in the world.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Like Elden ring and nightreign? Hugely successful games. Play them all the time in Linux.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 5 months ago
Hows battlefield 6 going on linux? Fortnite? Black Ops 6? Warzone? PUBG? Apex Legends? GTA 5 / GTA Online?
tinfoilhat@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
This. Plus anti-cheat is still a removed on Linux.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Anticheat works fine. Just not the kernel level nasty ones. But that’s a good thing.
xytaruka@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Switching to linux had me cold turkey league of legends im a healthier happier person now.
shrugs@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Same for me but I switched to dota; im not healthier
gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Dota 2 took 2k+ hours from my life. Loved every minute lol. Welcome aboard, it’s not healthier but I’d argue it’s better :D
sibachian@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
the real cold turkey was Riot killing linux support last year. Seems like there wasn’t enough linux players at the time for them to walk back that decision.
shrugs@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Funniest thing.: the Mac client also doesn’t support Kernel anti cheat, but it still works. Fuck riot, I’m glad I ditched it.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
100% of games worth playing work on Linux!
bilgamesch@feddit.org 5 months ago
I actually enjoy Battlefield 1 + 5 very much, and they killed it with their anticheat shenanigans. I am still salty about this.
Fuck EA.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Where’s my hype the time quest? I tried and it was a huge pain in the ass and I couldn’t fully get it working.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 5 months ago
Oh, yeah? I have a super niche German adventure game from 2004 that I can’t get up and running. But then it also won’t work on at least Win7 and up (I tried). I can’t even get that running on an XP virtual machine. This game has become my nemesis.
Deestan@lemmy.world 5 months ago
See if you can trick Ross Scott into playing it. :) He has near infinite patience for forcing old games to run, and a skilled network to lean on.
froh42@lemmy.world 5 months ago
What about an Emulator like 86box or so? And which game is it?
kinther@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The only games I’ve struggled with are those with codecs that are not distributed with Proton. Installing GE-Proton solved it.
99.99% of games on Linux unlocked.
Axolotl_cpp@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
GE-proton what add to proton? Beside codecs
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 5 months ago
From their readme:
Things it contains that Valve’s Proton does not:
- Additional media foundation patches for better video playback support
- AMD FSR patches added directly to fullscreen hack that can be toggled with WINE_FULLSCREEN_FSR=1
- FSR Fake resolution patch details here
- Nvidia CUDA support for PhysX and NVAPI
- Raw input mouse support
- ’protonfixes’ system – this is an automated system that applies per-game fixes (such as winetricks, envvars, EAC workarounds, overrides, etc).
- Various upstream WINE patches backported
- Various wine-staging patches applied as they become needed
- NTSync enablement if the kernel supports it.
SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
I played both HK and silksong on arch, and haven’t noticed any glaring problems like that.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Interesting. I beat hollow knight on my Linux desktop years ago. And I’m currently playing through silksong on my steam deck. And you’re right. I’ve never seen this lol.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 5 months ago
Skill issue
Yttra@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I played through and 100%'d Silksong entirely on Linux. The only issue I had was that the native Linux version had buggy controller support causing phantom inputs, and didn’t activate rumble at all (like the original Hollow Knight).
I normally play everything through Proton-GE by default and didn’t realize the game was initially installed as native. Forcing GE installed the Windows version and it was flawless all through the final boss.
(In short, definitely a skill issue)
SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Really the thing that does not work for Linux gaming is when you have a high dpi display. So many games render the UI wrong.
I don’t know if they work correctly on Windows either.
DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That 10%? The games everybody plays.
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
I guess I’m not everbody then. After writing this message I’ll go and play some Witcher 3.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Witcher 3? Never heard of it.
/s
aGlassDarkly@piefed.zip 5 months ago
This may be the first time I haven’t fallen into the subset of “everybody.”
Everything I want to play runs using Linux/proton. It seems like the only things that have trouble are things I’d never consider even installing, let alone running.
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 5 months ago
You’re the exception
Most people play the same 3 FPS games that don’t run on Linux. They’re probably not the type of people that would use Linux but hey, some might
Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
I was watching a video about extraction shooters and it mentioned a F2P Chinese one. I wasn’t that interested in it, but I wanted to give it a try to see what it was doing differently. It didn’t run though, because almost all Chinese games have kernel-level AC. I figure it’s not a big loss. I own EfT, and I’ve got other extraction shooters to play, especially ARC Raiders now.
That was the last time, and the only time in a very long time, that a game I tried to play didn’t just work.
Shayeta@feddit.org 5 months ago
Impressive, now tell me what % of the top 20 current concurrent players games run on linux.
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
themagzuz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
as far as i can tell this only accounts for games on steam, which means massive games like fortnite, valorant, league of legends and genshin impact are excluded. also for some reason apex legends is rated as silver on protondb despite very much not working on linux? so i guess at least one of the silvers in the top 10 chart should be downgraded to not working
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 5 months ago
So 60% for top 10?
RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
What am I looking at? What are the colors?
lustrate@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Unfortunately those pesky live service games that have the most player counts are disproportionately represented in that 10%.
Rothe@piefed.social 5 months ago
The correlation between people playing those games and not giving a fuck about digital privacy is probably huge.
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
They tend to require installing a rootkit on your own computer. I wouldn’t buy them even if they did support Linux.
dil@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
I have a console for those, just never liked them on pc, feels wrong to install them when I have other options for mouse and keyboard play that I would avoid with a controller
MajesticTechie@feddit.uk 5 months ago
Single player games are where I’m at so this really doesn’t affect me
qqq@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Wonder if they can build on top of eBPF? I think Windows is trying to implement it too
WereCat@lemmy.world 5 months ago
you are a minority in this case
tux0r@feddit.org 5 months ago
100% of Windows games run on Windows. Just saying.
JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org 5 months ago
Space Cadet Pinball was removed from Windows, but it comes stock with Bazzite.
tux0r@feddit.org 5 months ago
knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Good, but native would be better. At least they can’t kill Linux the way they did os/2
SoftNoodle@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I would love to swap to Linux if we could get games with kernel level anti cheat to be compatible.
Baggie@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
I’m gonna be that guy, most of them are in some way or another. The devs literally decided to not bother pressing the button that enables compatibility because they don’t feel like it.
tantamoq@feddit.nl 5 months ago
I’d love for those games to be on Linux if they remove the spyware.