Unfortunately those pesky live service games that have the most player counts are disproportionately represented in that 10%.
Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows
Submitted 1 day ago by herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.world
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lustrate@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 23 hours ago
They tend to require installing a rootkit on your own computer. I wouldn’t buy them even if they did support Linux.
WereCat@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
you are a minority in this case
qqq@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Wonder if they can build on top of eBPF? I think Windows is trying to implement it too
Rothe@piefed.social 21 hours ago
The correlation between people playing those games and not giving a fuck about digital privacy is probably huge.
xytaruka@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Switching to linux had me cold turkey league of legends im a healthier happier person now.
sibachian@lemmy.ml 22 hours ago
the real cold turkey was Riot killing linux support last year. Seems like there wasn’t enough linux players at the time for them to walk back that decision.
shrugs@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Funniest thing.: the Mac client also doesn’t support Kernel anti cheat, but it still works. Fuck riot, I’m glad I ditched it.
shrugs@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Same for me but I switched to dota; im not healthier
Deestan@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
The stereotype is of the haughty Linux user, but fuck me all I ever see in these discussions is Windows users being belittling assholes.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 23 hours ago
100% of games worth playing work on Linux!
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 22 hours ago
Oh, yeah? I have a super niche German adventure game from 2004 that I can’t get up and running. But then it also won’t work on at least Win7 and up (I tried). I can’t even get that running on an XP virtual machine. This game has become my nemesis.
Deestan@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
See if you can trick Ross Scott into playing it. :) He has near infinite patience for forcing old games to run, and a skilled network to lean on.
froh42@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
What about an Emulator like 86box or so? And which game is it?
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 14 hours ago
Where’s my hype the time quest? I tried and it was a huge pain in the ass and I couldn’t fully get it working.
kinther@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
The only games I’ve struggled with are those with codecs that are not distributed with Proton. Installing GE-Proton solved it.
99.99% of games on Linux unlocked.
Axolotl_cpp@lemmy.ml 23 hours ago
GE-proton what add to proton? Beside codecs
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 20 hours ago
From their readme:
Things it contains that Valve’s Proton does not:
- Additional media foundation patches for better video playback support
- AMD FSR patches added directly to fullscreen hack that can be toggled with WINE_FULLSCREEN_FSR=1
- FSR Fake resolution patch details here
- Nvidia CUDA support for PhysX and NVAPI
- Raw input mouse support
- ’protonfixes’ system – this is an automated system that applies per-game fixes (such as winetricks, envvars, EAC workarounds, overrides, etc).
- Various upstream WINE patches backported
- Various wine-staging patches applied as they become needed
- NTSync enablement if the kernel supports it.
knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Good, but native would be better. At least they can’t kill Linux the way they did os/2
tux0r@feddit.org 1 day ago
IBM killed OS/2, because they hate end users. IBM has a long history of making great end user products (awesome keyboards, great laptops, still good software) only to sell them to the highest bidder. All IBM execs can see are penguins with suitcases full of dollar bills. OS/2? End users loved it, but it didn’t run on mainframes. Killed. The Model M keyboard? End users loved it, but it was too durable, so it did not guarantee many sold units (because why would anyone buy a new Model M while the old one is still good?) -> rebranded as Unicomp and left to rot. (Typing this on a Unicomp PC122, but that’s a different story.) Thinkpads? Ah well, those are expensive. And they aren’t mainframes. Sold to the Chinese because ugh! End users! Lotus (SmartSuite, Notes)? Nice to have, but nope, too many end users. Ugh! End users!
jagermo@feddit.org 21 hours ago
To be fair, nobody loved Notes
AstralPath@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
“Perfect is the enemy of good.”
cynar@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
I’ll take compatible.
Most people game on windows. It’s monolithic nature also means that they will mostly encounter the same bugs.
Linux has a wider base of functionality. A bug might only show up on Debian, not Ubuntu.
End result, they spend 60% of their effort solving bugs, for 2% of their base. That’s not cost viable.
Compatibility means they just have to focus on 1 base of code. All we ask is that they don’t actively break the compatibility. This is far less effort, and a lot easier to sell to the bean counters.
Once Linux has a decent share, we can work on better universal standards. We likely need at least 10% to even get a chance there.
thelittleblackbird@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Ummmm sure?
I don’t want to start that extremely old flame war of native VS jit code but…
Proton is not an emulation, it is a translation to native code, and while it has some drawbacks (more memory usage, more time at start up to compile things) it can unlocks a lot of potential when the hw support new capabilities, this is the reason that some dx10 games run faster on Linux…
kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 20 hours ago
I might be wrong, but I don’t think proton is either? It’s running x86 instructions either way, wine just provides a way to load it from the windows executable and library formats, and together with proton they provide implementations of windows libraries for those executables to use.
1984@lemmy.today 20 hours ago
For me its 100% of games, but sure, havent tried all games that exist…
tias@discuss.tchncs.de 19 hours ago
Typically the competitive multiplayer ones fail because of kernel-level anticheat.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Or games from the late '90s and early 2000s 'cause they’re just weird.
arararagi@ani.social 13 hours ago
Yeah, and these are biggest ones, Fortnite, LoL, Valorant… They are in that 10% but they are the biggest, so at least people like me that don’t play them should just make the jump already.
Saryn@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Out of curiosity, is this something that can be circumvented by playing in a Windows VM?
SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 13 hours ago
Interesting. I beat hollow knight on my Linux desktop years ago. And I’m currently playing through silksong on my steam deck. And you’re right. I’ve never seen this lol.
DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 13 hours ago
I played both HK and silksong on arch, and haven’t noticed any glaring problems like that.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 22 hours ago
Skill issue
SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
Yttra@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I played through and 100%'d Silksong entirely on Linux. The only issue I had was that the native Linux version had buggy controller support causing phantom inputs, and didn’t activate rumble at all (like the original Hollow Knight).
I normally play everything through Proton-GE by default and didn’t realize the game was initially installed as native. Forcing GE installed the Windows version and it was flawless all through the final boss.
(In short, definitely a skill issue)
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 23 hours ago
Really the thing that does not work for Linux gaming is when you have a high dpi display. So many games render the UI wrong.
I don’t know if they work correctly on Windows either.
DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 1 day ago
That 10%? The games everybody plays.
aGlassDarkly@piefed.zip 1 day ago
This may be the first time I haven’t fallen into the subset of “everybody.”
Everything I want to play runs using Linux/proton. It seems like the only things that have trouble are things I’d never consider even installing, let alone running.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 23 hours ago
I was watching a video about extraction shooters and it mentioned a F2P Chinese one. I wasn’t that interested in it, but I wanted to give it a try to see what it was doing differently. It didn’t run though, because almost all Chinese games have kernel-level AC. I figure it’s not a big loss. I own EfT, and I’ve got other extraction shooters to play, especially ARC Raiders now.
That was the last time, and the only time in a very long time, that a game I tried to play didn’t just work.
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 20 hours ago
You’re the exception
Most people play the same 3 FPS games that don’t run on Linux. They’re probably not the type of people that would use Linux but hey, some might
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 21 hours ago
I guess I’m not everbody then. After writing this message I’ll go and play some Witcher 3.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 13 hours ago
Witcher 3? Never heard of it.
/s
fissionmailed@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Wen vr?
tux0r@feddit.org 1 day ago
100% of Windows games run on Windows. Just saying.
0ops@piefed.zip 1 day ago
I’ve heard that there’s some older windows games that don’t run in newer versions of Windows but do run in proton
JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org 18 hours ago
Space Cadet Pinball was removed from Windows, but it comes stock with Bazzite.
tux0r@feddit.org 18 hours ago
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
True, but getting us privacy-concious folks to use any version of windows, even the most palatable (Enterprise IOT LTSC, which is impossible for an individual to acquire through official channels) is a hard sell. I’m still only using Win10 IOT LTSC for VR game support, but I’m just biding my time. Already switched all of my other devices off windows.
tux0r@feddit.org 19 hours ago
Why would privacy-conscious folks run a system that’s largely being developed by Microsoft, Red Hat and the NSA instead of a BSD?
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 22 hours ago
If only Windows wasn’t so ass :(
tux0r@feddit.org 1 day ago
Linux users hate reality, so they downvote comments. Made my day.
anyhow2503@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Bait 😔
BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I think its more that you stated the obvious. Like saying 100% of Linux Appimages run on Linux. The reason to move from Windows, or one of them, is MS using telemetry and screen capture and other bloat that ruins the gamiglng experience due to processing power needed, you move that to a Linux machine and there’s no background garbage running.
For example my machine had dual boot, at idle windows was using 6% of processing power to do nothing. On Linux it was 0 to .5% to idle.
With windows updates I have to delete Ai.exe and Ai.DLL from the office folders or randomly ai starts hogging resources even if I have no office apps in use. Just a terrible user experience.
RiverRabbits@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 hours ago
you can downvote on lemmy?
flying_gel@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Not necessarily, steam includes a windows compatibility layer making many windows games playable on Linux and that’s how most steam deck games run. On stream deck specifically the battery life and performance is often better under this translation layer than installing windows and running them natively.
dev_null@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
The comment you replied to did not dispute that. They said Windows games run on Windows, not that they don’t run on Linux.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 22 hours ago
Unfortunately the 10% that don’t include the biggest, most played games in the world.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 14 hours ago
Like Elden ring and nightreign? Hugely successful games. Play them all the time in Linux.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 5 hours ago
Hows battlefield 6 going on linux? Fortnite? Black Ops 6? Warzone? PUBG? Apex Legends? GTA 5 / GTA Online?
tinfoilhat@lemmy.ml 18 hours ago
This. Plus anti-cheat is still a removed on Linux.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 14 hours ago
Anticheat works fine. Just not the kernel level nasty ones. But that’s a good thing.
python@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
I finally switched to Linux just a few days ago when upgrading my laptop’s SSD, and so far I have only opened minecraft to see how it runs - extremely smoothly, even though I could not figure out how to make use the Nvidia GPU. I’d say it runs noticeably better on Linux than it did on Windows.
Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml 12 hours ago
Unless it has changed recently, I think most distros default to running on the Nvidia GPU all the time: Switching back and forth doesn’t always work. (Or at least, that’s how my laptop run with Manjaro)
Shayeta@feddit.org 1 day ago
Impressive, now tell me what % of the top 20 current concurrent players games run on linux.
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
What am I looking at? What are the colors?
themagzuz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 hours ago
as far as i can tell this only accounts for games on steam, which means massive games like fortnite, valorant, league of legends and genshin impact are excluded. also for some reason apex legends is rated as silver on protondb despite very much not working on linux? so i guess at least one of the silvers in the top 10 chart should be downgraded to not working
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 20 hours ago
So 60% for top 10?
orosus@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
The only game I am not able to make it work on Linux is “The Sims 4”. After installing it on Steam, when clicking on Play, it runs the EA app in the background and tries to start the game, but it doesn’t load. Any suggestion?
dangrousperson@feddit.org 20 hours ago
always check protonDB:
Looks like most people are using GloriousEggroll’s version of Proton (ProtonGE) and some are using launch options to disable the EA Launcher.
GE works on Wine at Red Hat and is thus very knowledgeable about windows translations and the stuff he changes about Valves Proton are often merged down the line, its like an unofficial beta release and I’ve had good a experience with Hus proton Versions.
That said, to actually get custom Proton Versions I use “ProtonUp-Qt”(available as flatpak): davidotek.github.io/protonup-qt/
Which downloads different Proton Versions and manages them for you. You can then set the default for all games in the steam settings, or on a game-by-game basis
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 20 hours ago
Try the GE version of Proton, it’s usually more curring edge.
Mayb this can help: www.protondb.com/app/1222670
roserose56@lemmy.zip 20 hours ago
Playing Hogwarts legacy at the moment, but I also tested ETS 2 and the tenants.
barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Which I’m sure is much higher than windows games working on windows. Proton is awesome for old games.