cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/37300843
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- Hacker News.
Submitted 2 days ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/37300843
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- Hacker News.
“the distribution of 350,000 internet-enabled Chromebooks, part of the city’s effort to replace aging devices obtained during the pandemic, and ensure that all students have access to technology in schools even as their personal devices are banned.”
Yeah, force kids to give all their data to the one company that is doing such a great job at securing it.
WTF?
My concern is just how disposable and unrepairable Chromebooks are. So much e-waste generated every 2-3 years.
Ewaste == corporate profits.
Kids spend far too much time in school on their phones. This is simply true.
Counter point to this tho: Kids go to school knowing a shooting can happen at any time and need to have their phones for if that happens.
I can’t support restricting phones before we restrict firearms.
Why don’t they just have rules like we did. Have your phone out in class and you get a lunch detention, next time a detention, 3rd time sent to the office with a recommendation for suspension.
Kids have to learn to be responsible… They will have their phone on them everywhere else in life, like work. Learning to be responsible about it seems like education.
I fervently agree with your hypothesis, but i dont think you know what it is like inside public schools these days. “Shut up bitch” is the likely response to enforcing that lol
Sort of agree?
Yeah, guns must be banned completely in the US, fully agree, but phones in class too. Waiting with one for the other won’t make anything better
How do students having phones help in a shooting?
Is this a serious question? Replace “shooting” with any other emergency.
Calling/texting 911
Letting authorities know where they and/or the shooter is in the building
Even filming and documenting it is important after cunts like Alex Jones convinced an entire political party that all school shootings are fake, Jewish and Illuminati psyops to take away their guns.
you’re joking right?
Calling police, calling parents, etc.
It’s nice to be able to call your parents when you’re bleeding out in the school atrium.
I’m assuming firearms are also restricted in NYC schools.
Yeah but the thing with mass shooters is that they don’t give a fuck what the law says.
When I was in school every room had a landline phone that could make calls both within the building and externally. Is this not the case now? What advantage does it give for everyone to have a phone? Wouldn’t that just create more variables, chaos and panic to deal with during an actual emergency?
Maybe tell teachers to teach better ?? Especially math & science teachers.
Firstly pay them enough
Soliman said students sometimes physically leave the building and go out into the courtyard for a phone break to play games or check messages during free periods or lunch. “The benches are always full,” Soliman said.
JFC, kids, you make smoking look like an easy habit to kick.
Just wait until they learn about 'zines. They’re like scrolling TikTok, but written down, like for literate people.
This is the most boomer-y comment I've read today, and I'm 43.
Yeah, it was sarcastic. Sorry.
Your comment is like the embodiment of one of those “Kids don’t know how to swipe a book like an iPad” boomerslop comics
Added /s since that’s apparently want obvious
Settle down, grandpa. The world will spin another day if kids enjoy their free period a little bit.
Said in sarcasm. I figured the author intentionally wrote that passage to evoke the image of miners on a smoke break or something.
That’d be an interesting turn of events - phone bans leading to a zine Renaissance among young people.
Don’t see it happening, but it’d be kinda cool.
Decks of cards are usually banned in schools. The schools consider. Card games to be gambling (even if there are no stakes) and that’s not permitted on school premesis.
“usually”?
Not where I’m from (which isn’t NYC)
I grew up in the American public school system during pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh cards peak popularity. There were a whole lot of people who had card decks confiscated under such rules. I’ve lived in several states and while I don’t know the policies for everyone state I’ve lived in’s public schools, I do know that the school’s my son has attended also have such rules.
So I guess YMMV.
Yeah I remember in highschool trying to play MTG with some friends during study hall and having one of the monitors come over and tell us no card games were allowed because of gambling, except go-fish apparently? Idk why go-fish would be less possible to gamble on, but...
Start a gambling club that only plays high stakes go-fish games with real money
Ok, got any mountains?
No take 10 damage and tap a creature in play.
Dude I made since good money being on lunch gofish
So they’re treating kids like prisoners?
Fences, rigid schedule, forced interactions, institutional food, mindlessly boring, I’m going to do a Foucault and say yes.
As if school wasn’t already a prison with all the metal detectors and xray machines.
What school has metal detectors and xray machines?!?
My understanding is that prison is waaaay worse. Needlessly cruel, you might say
Keep that kind of talk in the yard where they aren’t listening so close.
“The teachers are the first ones to complain, ‘Oh, you were late, da da da da.’ I’m like, ‘I was on the line, like, what do you want me to do?’”
Yeah… I would walk right tf out of there.
Really now, would you?
I was on the line, like, what do you want me to do?
Wake up 5 minutes earlier so that next time you won’t be late. OMG, how dare I even say that out loud
Nobody has cellphones in schools for hundreds of years and after a few years of having them it’s funny to see how all kids think that it’s impossible and a human rights violation to be without
Dude. She was late because of a massive long line for the security checks that the school created. The girl was at school on time. The line took a shit tonne of time to get her through. Did you read the article?
If the bus is late, does the student get marked late? No. If the administration forces the student to go through extra checks that makes the one-time student late, why does the student get marked late?
These phone pouches confuse me. They open with a simple magnet. Do they think kids don’t have access to magnets?
I mean, most probably don’t. Realistically
Just throw some water on them - that shuts 'em right down.
Yes take away the one tool that is basically required for modern adult life.
Just wondering, in your own words, what demographic is this article is discussing?
*required by capitalism for “modern” life. Literally no one actually needs a phone. But samsung and apple do need to keep their slave labor producing products for consumers.
It’s a fair point.
Phones REALLY enable stupidity amongst, like… everyone though.
I’m not sure if there’s a middle ground or what it would be.
I honestly love this
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 1 day ago
Kids learning to avoid government control and setting up covert communication seems like a very important lesson later in life these days.
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 hours ago
Kids have been doing this always. Did you not pass notes or make up codes as a kid?
It’s just a new technology that weve allowed capitalists to ruin through creating addictions.