Still investigating cause of death, but it appears to be some sort of puncture wound in the neck region
Next up: FBI confirms a firearm was used in the shooting.
THIS JUST IN: FBI suspects Kirk was likely targeted, more info to come
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Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Ongoing: FBI suspect that political landscape might be toxic
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
BREAKING: FBI Increasingly Suspects Murder As Cause of Death in Kirk Shooting
InnerScientist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Balaquina@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
TIL that I could be in the FBI. Great detective work guys.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
When you realize how low the bar is, you should never have imposter syndrome again.
Literally that is why people keep joining this grift. If you’re willing to pledge loyalty, take advantage of people, and help destroy your own country, you can make bank.
The people that fund the right refuse to let a penny of their money go towards taxes to pay for public services, but they will literally throw absurd amounts of money at anything that promotes their agenda.
RFKJrsBrainworm@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I read a really interesting article years ago that spoke about that happening on Communist China back in Mao’s time. Essentially all the folks who were competent retired/replaced by folks with connections to the party not the role. Thus corruption infiltrated.
I can’t find the article and I don’t remember the professor’s name who wrote it but I remember thinking it was odd that a Chinese professor was writing about the government and letting it be published. I think he may have gotten in trouble after the fact or something else.
Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Tinfoil hat time: Based on the close up of the shooting, it looks like he got shot right in the corrotid artery, which has a very high mortality rating. This wasn’t a lucky shot, this was well aimed. If you look at the tape, it doesn’t look like someone in the crowd had a gun, no one in the crowd was reacting before the shot occurred, and no one saw a gun pulled. In the crowd full of people, how to you avoid everyone else and make a kill shot like that. I legit believe this was a shot taken from far away with the ability to make a sniper shot like that. Then, before he’s been officially pronounced dead, Trump posts “The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead. No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL, especially me, and now, he is no longer with us. Melania and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and family. Charlie, we love you!” Trump wrote on his social media platform. If he hasn’t officially been declared dead, why is Trump saying that Charlie Kirk is dead. Next Trump is blaming the left with no proof. I’m calling it, Trump had Kirk assassinated as a false flag operation, and this will be trump’s reischtag fire. Buckle up.
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
The shooting spot was about 250 yards away. That’s WWII sniping range, but not particularly far for modern precision rifles. According to Ryan Cleckner (US Army Ranger sniper), precision marksman training in the Army still uses iron sights out to 600 yards. A good setup these days can hit a dinner plate (read: a human head) at 1000 yards, and that’s not even pushing it.
They didn’t have to hit him the neck. They just needed to hit is general head area. They got lucky hitting the artery dead on, but any head hit has a very high probability of death.
There are millions of bench rest shooters with a bolt action rifle who could make that shot.
The_v@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If you have a regular 30.06 bullet with a rifle sighted in at 200 yards, it will hit around 5" lower than you aim at 250 yards depending on the gun and conditions.
If you have it sighted in at 300 yards and aim for center mass right the bullet will hit around 5" above where they are aiming.
In both conditions the bullet hits the neck area.
couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Whoever did it, at least we know (s)he had to be part of a well regulated militia
morphballganon@mtgzone.com 2 weeks ago
Shooter was probably aiming for head and the bullet lost a few inches of altitude in the air
tyler@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
You don’t think that maybe trump just doesn’t wait for a news article to be posted? Maybe he got a call and since he’s incessantly posting tweets he did it before an editor could approve the news article change? There’s a lot more simple explanations.
Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Yes, this is also highly likely, which is why I started my post with “tin foil hat time.” Even if that’s the case, even if the govt had 0 involvement in his death, I still think this incident will be used as a means for trump to further solidify power.
AA5B@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
false flag operation
Claims like this give both too much credit for action and too little to strategy.
- there’s no reason to believe this specific action was a false flag operation when in the current environment it’s simple to believe a radicalized individual
- isn’t that one of the benefits of the continuous hatred, outrage, divisiveness, chaos? There’s always going to be stuff like this happening, so you always have an event to capitalize on without the risk of doing it yourself
Talaraine@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
I dunno, this happening right around the same time the Senate voted YET AGAIN against the release of the Epstein files may be a thing
Vupware@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Ockham’s Razor
python@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Based on the close up of the shooting, it looks like he got shot right in the corrotid artery,
There are two carotid arteries. Based on the footage, it looks to me like only his left carotid artery got hit. It would make sense because bullets make a way bigger hole when exiting than they do when entering.
I don’t think anyone, no matter how skilled they are, would be aiming to do that. It’s way more likely to be a failed headshot or shot to the torso.shalafi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There is video of a person dressed in black skedaddling back over the rooftop, clearly the shooter. No sane shooter is aiming for the neck, hell no. Pretty sure it was a chest shot that tumbled around his ribcage and exited his neck. Weird shit happens when a teeny projectile hits meat and bone at 3,400FPS.
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
On the day before 9/11 of all days.
mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
+1
yesman@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Crazy times to live when you see the FBI go from Darth Vader to Dark Helmet.
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Holding press conferences with the visor down … sounding loud, hollow and important … every once in a while opening the visor to show an idiot trying to clarify what they said.
DmMacniel@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
They went right over his Helmet!
CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Right? Won’t be able to have a serious movie about the FBI for the next 30 years
RFKJrsBrainworm@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Their counting on AI to do the Darth Vader shit for Darth Helmet… we’re fucked
Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Do you mean to say it wasn’t a random bullet?
I never would have reached that conclusion on my own, thank you FBI, you are truly the world’s greatest detectives. Thinking outside the box!
T00l_shed@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
His neck actually just did that by itself
phx@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Actually, he’s such a gun afficiando that he regularly eats bullets for breakfast, but this time accidentally ate a live round which was later set off by stomach acid and propelled in an upward direction at a slight angle.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
No it took an entire spevial effects team.
sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I feel like there are parts of the country where it does need to be clarified. Utah may be one of them. 😉
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Be fair. They recently fired all their good agents. The sycophants that are left are trying their very best.
teletext@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Nah, that was random gang violence. Charly tried to sell crack on the wrong turf.
BetaBlake@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t think he was shot, I think his neck just did that
apftwb@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
A truck backfired happened to back fire at the same time.
rumba@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
"Grunthos was reported to have been “disappointed” by the poem’s reception, and was about to embark on a reading of his 12-book epic entitled “My Favourite Bathtime Gurgles” when his own major intestine, in a desperate attempt to save humanity, leapt straight up through his neck and throttled his brain. " --Douglas Adams HHGTTG
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
It did not in fact do that ay all. Special effects. Crisis actor.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The bullshit could no longer be contained.
huquad@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
No this wasn’t a school shooting! This was targeted. The horror!
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
After a day of rigorous forensics, we have concluded that Charlie Kirk’s neck didn’t just do that on its own.
DmMacniel@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
clearly worse than mass shootings!
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
and also not the 2 dem politicians that were assasinated and targeted too.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Now Trump is going to send the army to guard the streets of buttfuck nowhere Utah from all this violence, right? Right?
13igTyme@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Honestly, it would be some pretty funny shit if he got hit by a random bullet someone shot into the air from like a mile or so.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I think it was an accident. He dropped the rifle and it accidentally shot Kirk
EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The blood shooting from Mr. Kirks neck alone was not good enough evidence to determine if the shooter hit what he was targeting. Great work FBI. At this rate, you’ll soon be able to confirm the shooter used a gun.
DScratch@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Luigi was caught in like 24 hours with a manifesto, confession, gun, bodycam footage, and a gps tracker that proves he done it.
This guy is a ghost.
BUT THEYVE SECURED THE WOODS GUISE!
HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
FAR too many “coincidences” for this to not have been an inside job.
The weird pre-prepared AI video of Trump announcing his death
The plane randomly arriving and likely picking the shooter up
The shooter being clearly an expert marksman
The right all coordinating to declare a civil war within seconds of it happening
The FBI conveniently not being able to find the guy
Not 1 but 2 plants in the crowd to distract authorities
Etc etc etc.
Release the Epstein files you orange pedophile piece of shit.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
No fucking shit he was targeted. That is how you aim a gun.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Nah, stray bullet bro.
kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Wild, I was pretty sure his neck just did that.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What was the theory before? Crime of passion, gun and run?
Like he just had a “say what again” moment to that bullshit Kirk was saying on stage?
Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It is amazing that Trump sacrifices his personal Joseph Göbbels just to distract from the Epstein files.
itisileclerk@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m no expert, but if you hit someone, it means you targeted them.
fodor@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
The “nearby woods” have been secured, lol. Yeah, you do that. Watch out for the deer and bears and shit.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Can we stark calling the shooter Mario? I wish he had a better escape plan like a janitor outfit and beard
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Geniuses … guy who called for violence against people, wanted to deny people’s rights, making fun of their misery, downplaying deaths of other people, publicly mocking others in distress and making millions of dollars off it all … and doing it all on a daily basis on national platforms with a following of millions … FBI suddenly thinks that people might want to kill this person.
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So Trump’s gonna send NG troops to Utah right? The crime in these red states is really out of control.
Canconda@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I’m getting shit for not crying my face off meanwhile the FBI making dad jokes!?
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Why is no one questioning God’s involvement?
BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Gosh you mean someone executed a perfectly aimed shot into his carotid and picked him off like a clay pigeon in a shooting gallery, escaped a security patrolled event without being identified, and you think that might not be just some rando? Wow FBI that’s some stellar detective work!
db2@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Of course he was targeted. The shooter is likely dead by now. They probably called it Operation Watch Charlie or something.
He was killed as a distraction.
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Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Possible… but he had a lot of enemies, and there’s more and more people with literally nothing left to lose in the USA every single day, so it was probably inevitable on a long enough timescale.
SARGE@startrek.website 2 weeks ago
Who would have thought that making millions of people’s lives actively worse in an already not great time in the most widely-armed country in the world could have POSSIBLY led to current events???
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Susie Wiles: “Sir, they leaked the live copy of your letter to Jeffery Epstein. It’s having absolutely no effect on your public approval and Congress seems incapable of doing anything to stall your accrual of executive level powers. What should we do?”
Trump: “I’m a great president, Susie. Some say I’m the greatest president who ever lived. That’s why I make the big decisions. And I’ve been thinking about this for a long time. We’ve got to save the nation. We need to get stronger. Some people are saying we’re not strong, but they’re wrong, Susie. This is the best this country has ever been and it’s only going to get better. Are you ready to make this country better, Susie? I don’t think you’re ready… you’re nodding. Does that mean you’re ready?”
Susie Wiles: “Yes, Mr. President. Anything for you, Mr. President.”
Trump: “Go talk to Pete Hegseth. He’ll tell you what to do.”
Pete Hegseth, drunkenly: “Susthy, ith so good to thee you again. But I lothe to wath you leaf.”
Susie Wiles: “The President said you would know what to do.”
Pete: “Yeah, uh… kill the big head guy. You know the one. With the tiny face.”
Susie: “Charlie Kirk”
Pete: loud burping noise
Susie: “Right away, Mr. War Fighter Commander Pete.”
sounds of gunfire
Susie Wiles: “Mr. President! In a strange turn of fate, it appears someone else shot Charlie Kirk before we could get to him.”
Trump: “All according to plan, Susie. I’m the smartest man who ever lived. You can thank me with a kiss. Get over here, sweetie.”
WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Susie: you can grab me by the pussy. I’ll just let you do it.
Carmakazi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I swear you people would watch World War III kick off, vomiting your own digestive system out from acute radiation sickness, and still be saying “This is just a distraction from Epstein!”
More than one thing can happen on planet Earth. It doesn’t all have to tie back to Trump and Epstein.
Ioughttamow@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
Hey man, we’re giving him the care and consideration he gave to sandy hook
snooggums@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
That's what someone who wants to distract from Epstein would say!
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
As a wise man (i.e. me) once memed: Image
Mike_Hunt@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
yeah but where are they?
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
The World War 3 has already has started, just many are refusing to acknowledge it. If Ukraine won’t stop Russia it will continue to the rest of the Europe. We already North Korea fighting within Europe.
Going back to trump, he is all about himself and no empathy towards others. He is willing to get Ukrainians and Palestinians killed in exchange for whatever putin and bibi are giving him. He had no problem of having two politicians assassinated to just distract from No King protests.
So yeah, I wouldn’t put past him to use him for political gain, like excuse to deploy military in Utah or some other goal he wants to achieve.
Wasn’t Kirk on the release Epstein files bandwagon anyway? That sounds like something that would let you fall out of favor.
We are no longer in the first term where there were people that would say “no” to him.
DmMacniel@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
uuh… Oooh yeah (most, mostly right wingers) Americans always consider themselves as the only nation on this country. Yeah go ahead, do it.
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Will this be excuse to send military to Utah or is he planning something else?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The bullet was fired from Chicago.
Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
He’s planning on going after all political dissenters from what he said when he addressed the nation yesterday
blarghly@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Trump sending the military to Orem would be really friggin weird. Unless he’s sending a brigade of recruiters.
AtariDump@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
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MNByChoice@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
What was the timing of the US Senate vote to not release the Epstein Files?