Submitted 1 year ago by L4s@lemmy.world [bot] to technology@lemmy.world
The Reddit Protest Is Finally Over. Reddit Won.::Reddit corporate claims victory over its disgruntled mods as r/aww, r/pics, and r/videos abandon the “John Oliver rule.”
They didn’t win, they just didn’t fail as badly some had hoped. What was accomplished was spreading out a fair portion of their user base. Maybe not a huge percentage of it, but enough that they don’t have the same level of monopoly. People are more aware of other options (and Reddit’s flaws), and more will depart in time.
Yes, I guess without the reddit lemmy wouldn’t be in the same place now.
Reddit assisted their competition. Lemmy use doubled.
Doubled? I see posts with user engagement and it’s a wall. Low, low, low, and then boom, astronomical.
It’s still a drop in the ocean for reddit and the people who left (or just spend less time on it) were never the target audience of this “new course”. Reddit will be just fine.
Well put. I think there was permanent damage done to user’s trust, but don’t see many of the smaller subreddit communities migrating away yet.
I worry that Lemmy is even more an echo chamber with a handful of default communities, I hope it grows to the point where I don’t feel obligated to join the popular communities so there is actual content to scroll through.
Nobody cares though. The reddit administration has dethroned their own site, it will never gain that back. They’re done, even if the site hangs around like a bad smell for a few more years.
Maybe they ‘won’, but I don’t count a pyrrhic victory as winning. It will take years to recover.
Reddit won? Good for them. I’m still not going back.
The incredible thing about these articles is that they don’t make the slight mention of lemmy.
That one linked is a well written summary of what happened, but it’s partial if they don’t include the migration that happened, even if it wasn’t that big.
Not mentioning alternatives definitely feels like a favor for reddit tbh.
favor
Ad partner/customer potential?
Now that you’ve noticed the PR industry, you may realize that basically every article is fawning of its subjects in this way these days
Me reading this from lemmy
Did they win, though? Everybody who actually cared left. It was clear in June that they were going to do whatever the hell they wanted to regardless of what anyone did or said.
The real test of win/lose is if they are able to turn a profit
I’d be surprised if they could. They’re copying Elon, after all.
They haven’t in 10 years, I wouldn’t hold my breath.
Honestly I feel that this protest just showed me how uninteresting Reddit has become. Outside from small niche communities it’s basically equivalent to any other news feed out there be it google news, Twitter or whatever.
Maybe it’s not as good as we thought it was.
Me too! I thought it’s be hard to be without reddit, but it turned out to be easier than I thought. And I’ve noticed that lemmy is growing faster than I predicted.
I’m here and I have an ad-free, troll-free, wholesome community to engage with on mostly the same topics I followed on Reddit. I declare myself the winner
I read that as toll free and was wondering if I was missing something.
Yah, too early in the morning for me!
I didn’t realize I had misread that till I read your comment. It’s late here.
Reddit won at building its own viable competitors like Kbin, Lemmy, and Squabbles and all the users of those platforms also won big from Reddit’s hubris. The one thing I know for sure is that they have grown Lemmy by 7000%, and that’s nothing to sneeze at.
Time will tell what happens to Reddit.
I am not really shocked because the only way to really beat Reddit is by leaving the platform completely as in what many did when Melon Husk took over Twitter. Mass exodus. Express displeasure by voting with your feet and GTFO.
I guess I beat reddit then.
You and I both beat Reddit! 😂
I never cared about the Reddit API war. For me, leaving Reddit was about how moderators have absolute yet arbitrary power to permanently ban users who do not agree with them. And I’m not talking about breaking their rules (racism, misogyny, transphobia) but simply having a disagreement of opinion that provides the mods an opportunity to ban you for life.
For the Reddit API thing, the funny thing was finding out I could have been using a better app the past seven years but didn’t know.
Can’t community moderators ban users too?
I think the idea here is that if mods are bad on, say, memes@lemmy.ml, everyone can just leave and make memes@sh.itjust.works or wherever. There should be more competition here, at least in theory. Time will tell how well it actually works.
You sub to a subreddit and gen banned on others that had nothing to do with it. Try talking anou how bad the vaccines are… Get banned. It does not matter if you are right or not, cant even have the conversation
If you’re banned for an opinion, that’s not right. If you’re banned because you’re spreading easily disprovable vaccine misinformation, that’s on you.
Oh, please don’t worry about that, Lemmy’s API will make it easier than Reddit’s to automatically ban plague rats
Really‽ I just checked and many of the small subreddits I used to follow became much less interesting/active if not dead.
Meanwhile, some of the bigger subs became a repost dumping ground of years old posts/images/videos/memes by fairly new accounts (i’m guessing those are bots karma farming).
The fediverse is the much better way IMHO.
In any case, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit have become too toxic to use I will keep away (though, I never had a Facebook nor a Twitter account)
Interesting. The small subreddits I follow either moved or are just as active. Most are just as active.
I’d like to spend more time here, but Lemmy is still attracting enough people to support a lot of the small subreddits I follow.
I wonder how many users and how much traffic they lost in the process.
Real or faked? Because they have tons of bots and paid traffic to make the site look busier than it actually is. Steve figured that out years ago because he’s a sociopathic liar with access to venture capital and an IPO to defraud.
Steve looks forward to the hell of interfacing with shareholders, which makes me giddy. Reddit is now a money machine and no longer a community. The enshitification is well underway.
Oh from the day Reddit went live there have been fake accounts. That’s how Steve and Alexis made it look like people were using the site.
I’ve been following the graphs here, and it’s sure seems to be declining. But I don’t know how accurate it is.
it feels like a biased, paid and made up news for spez’s money to try and revive this hole of a website. most of r/all posts are repost bots, as well as comments in them.
A huge tech company paying another big tech company to stroke it’s digital cock?
Never!
Sadly, for some they will believe it and feel defeated and return to reddit thinking it’s true, and watch as reddit becomes the Facebook/Myspace of this era.
How nice it will be if the IPO is an absolute disaster!
I can’t use a mobile browser to view most content on Reddit anymore due to one of the changes to the site. I get a bunch of prompts to log in or verify my age or something that can only be removed by switching my browser to desktop mode.
This basically ensures that I won’t ever use Reddit because I do most of my doom scrolling on mobile when I’m bored.
I think today I’ll investigate one of the means of automatically changing all of my comments to fuck spez and then delete my account.
Looking at the site recently it feels like half the content is gone. A lot of old stuff hanging around /hot on subs that I frequented doesnt seem like anyone “won” here. Reddit lost content creators, the users lost site functionality and content and half the mods got kicked to the curb for nothing.
We did it Reddit!
/s
Seems like human relationships turn out like that. Hey, nobody benefits, but look who’s the alpha! Take wars for examples.
They might have won but now that Rif doesn’t work anymore I’m testing Lemmy. I’ve noticed that reddit content is less updated throughough the day so I suppose that some active posters have left.
I bet the “Reddit won” statement is a bit premature. Yes in a sense it pushed forward what they wanted to do kicking out third-party apps and moderators who didn’t toe the line. In the end, they kept the traffic but it must be mostly the silent majority of lurkers. I bet a significant chunk of the minority providing content and discussion went away or at least is trying out alternatives and finding a new home in the likes of Lemmy.
Time will tell if Reddit stagnates/declines content-wise.
I’m using Sync for Lemmy (with a lemmy.world account) it’s like Sync for Reddit, same!
Let Reddit become Myspace. Lemmy wins, however we use it.
Myspace? You already got reddits predecessor. Digg
That’s not true. It may be true in r/technology, but reddit hasn’t won. It’s just that those still on Reddit didn’t make it.
We showed that we care, and we showed that we can dump them. Reddit is currently dying. It may be a slow process, but I don’t think the enshittification of reddit will stop.
Yep, and while Lemmy was rough around the edges when people started looking for alternatives, now there’s a glut of great clients and active communities. Reddit only needs one more screw up before the remaining users find a compelling alternative.
And the screwup will come. Either in another big blow or gradually.
I think “one more screw up” is a little optimistic tbh
Won the battle… NOT the war.
I don’t know, it’s more like Reddit lost a skirmich and that’s it. They are heading downwards à la Facebook though.
Look at Digg, dying takes time.
Spez gambled that most mods would give up because they where power whores. He won because he was right.
I dont know what you say, I transitioned to Lemmy 100% and deleted my acc at reddit.
The only super annoying thing is that they get to keep the cake whole and the dog full (my comments by deleting my name and my acc deleted). Which I despite them for that even more now and just make me avoid the platform even more and dis-advertise it.
I would be fully happy if I had my account, changed my comments first to “fuck /u/spez” and then had deleted my account, but I only knew so much. I was naive enough to think they would delete my comments too, since their My Intellectual Property. Right? They came from my own mind, I took the time to write them, and I deleted them! But no! We will keep them, just delete your name.
And when you google my reddit username, you still get from the google’s cache directed to threads with my deleted comments. Fuck you spez. Fuck you.
Time will tell if reddit won. It’s not a short-term fight. I deleted my discord a Chinese Tencent’s vessel and a product that makes no money but burns money for the sake of gathering data. My Instagram, my Meta account thus my FB too.
I do everything to keep off being fingerprinted. I use platforms that use more and more end-to-end encryption like Matrix. Or at worst Telegram which is not end to end but the best of the worst since my relatives still use it.
Just because you don’t see it yet, doesn’t mean that a movement against anti-consumer platforms like reddit don’t exist. I inform my mom about it, I inform my relatives and friends about it. I move friends and friends move me to safer for the future to use platforms and de-centralized.
A battle may be short, but the war is long.
Just If you consider the growth of 7000% of a competitor in the era when many players fight for the attention of the users a victory
And Lemmy won people’s heart.
Hey I’m here so guess what
There’s two problems…
There is no easy to use singular Reddit replacement. (The fediverse is not easy to use to normal people.)
Reddit is such a large social media site now that all the nerds getting angry and leaving doesn’t matter. 10 years ago this change would have killed Reddit, but now that normal people like my mom are on Reddit they don’t give a shit about using the official Reddit app, in fact they were probably already using it.
So buying reddit coins and gilding every “fuck spez” comment/post didn’t work? I can’t believe it!
“I’m bleeding, making me the victor!” - Reddit after losing half their valuation, alienating their user base, removing veteran mods, and revealing how shit of a company they actually are
They won, but hopefully the hit they took gives them pause. Lemmy won too, it’s become a nice little community and I’m happy to be here.
My old time allocated to Reddit is now allocated to Lemmy (65%) Reddit (35%).
And Infinity for Lemmy is making Lemmy even more familiar than ever.
Veedem@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It was to be expected, but I found Lemmy because of everything that happened, uninstalled Reddit, and now use Mastodon and Lemmy as my social media platforms of choice, so it’s a personal win.
Hopefully, as Lemmy continues to thrive, instances hold up to the pressure of growth and we see an influx of content that made Reddit so valuable to users and Reddit corporate alike.
KeraKali@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I also found Lemmy because of Reddit’s fiasco, and I think its much better. Being able to have so many instances to get stuff from and forge communities offers a lot more freedom.
aquarisces@lemmy.world 1 year ago
+1, I wouldn’t have even considered moving off of Reddit until all the drama that had happened but once it did - and I found out about Lemmy - I’ve been happily more active on here in my communities of interest. Only reason I go back to Reddit these days is to encourage others to give Lemmy a go.
Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I wouldn’t say Lemmy is better but it has great potential. The mobile apps aren’t as good as Reddit’s third party apps but that’s changing. The content we are getting here isn’t as good and reddit has its history of content to search through. Lemmy will have its own issues we will have to sort out but it can be done if we work together.
I think a big issue on Lemmy that I’m seeing is people making it to be Reddit-no-corporate when I believe it should be is own unique thing. Since it isn’t corporate and thus no ads I think it would be hard to monetize high “karma” accounts so maybe we can get higher quality discussions. But if also seen people trying to create their echo chambers here by demanding defederation when one instance has a problem with a few trolls.
nobleshift@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Kikkertje@aussie.zone 1 year ago
A toxic relationship where I kept begging for just one more hit. So glad I’ve found Lemmy.
tabarnaski@jlai.lu 1 year ago
Yep, same for me. There are are dozens of us. DOZENS.
JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You’re not alone, the growth stats of several instances show that thousands of us did the same move. I now only use Reddit when I search error codes at work and an old reddit post has the answer. It’s gone from my phone and I’ve been on lemmy since the day Apollo was murdered
Tots@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Same
Shikadi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
Also, same