I have got to admit I canned Spotify subs years ago - but how are they managing to grow their subscriber base whn it is now going to be £11.99 in the UK? That is way, way too high for what it offers…
People pay corporations for music? Morons.
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I have got to admit I canned Spotify subs years ago - but how are they managing to grow their subscriber base whn it is now going to be £11.99 in the UK? That is way, way too high for what it offers…
People pay corporations for music? Morons.
I don’t see why people hate Spotify so much. I used to go out and pay £10 for an album decades ago, multiple times a month sometimes. Now I can basically listen to anything for the price of an album a month. Plus, you can play Spotify on just about any device, even all the open source solutions that Netflix blocked like 15 years ago. On top of that it’s Swedish rather than American.
When you bought an album you owned it for life. With spotify you are borrowing the music and if you stop paying you get nothing left
For most people, that’s an acceptable trade, because they don’t want to maintain a library. And with Spotify, you get access to a much larger library than you could ever possibly keep.
Lots of reasons.
They pay their artists an an absolute pittance with a model that vastly favours the big labels. New artists, those artists striving to establish themselves and/or independent artists are screwed over.
At the same time they pay hundreds of millions of dollars to pricks like Joe Rogan.
The 'fake artists' controversy where Spotify pay stock music production companies to produce pretty bland 'playlist' mood music, then created an internal team to seed these tracks on their uberhyped suggested playlists.
Getting caught heavily promoting AI Bands who have been trained on actual musicians work, without paying them for it, which in turn allows Spotify to pay out even less royalties to actual musicians.
Daniel Ek recently investing in 100m Euros into an AI weapons company, which has triggered an artist boycott.
You have zero ownership and zero access rights to the music you stream.
In short, if you care at all about music and the people who make it then streaming in general is not a good model for their future and Spotify is poison.
My frustration with Spotify is based not in price but that they’re choosing to shaft indie artists and new young artists.
…spotify.com/…/track-monetization-eligibility/
The 0.5% of royalties that they redirect to those with more plays is often 100% of the royalties for the little guy being stolen from.
The artificial tracks they wanna combat? I imagine they will surf by pleasantly with 1000-3000 plays over the last 12 months with a wider variety of bot accounts listening to ensure they reach enough unique listeners.
While it is essentially nothing (in monetary value) they still rob the teenage punk band that sounds awful of their first royalty dollar.
Yeah I have been top member for over a decade. It is convenient, there are some things pushing me away though.
The podcast push, autoplaying unremoveable videos on the homescreen.
The algorithym pushing US style hack shit like what loser group of comedians take on politics is despite I exclusively listening to Australian comic book movie news and British Ukrainian war coverage.
Worsening UI/UX, poor offline management
Shorts/Reels
Removing features, from the running tempo sensor to family mixes.
The offline features on Spotify are abysmal. Half my downloaded albums don’t even work. It’s the primary reason I’m looking for an alternative. How can an app with such a high market share be this shitty?
There are probably many individual reasons people have for hating Spotify, but here are some of them: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pHbS6bgmqE
Also: youtu.be/MXudOLStaXA
If I’m renting music, at least give me FLAC level quality.
No, 320 kbps won’t do.
Spotify was an amazing service. I’ve used it for years but its getting worse. More and more things that are intrusive are being added, prices are going up. It just sucks i wish they would have just split it into different tiers so i dont have to pay for all this extra shit.
Inflation is also rising. I am not so sure Spotify raised its prices more than inflation.
Swedish or american- they’re still exploiting artists. Capitalists gonna capitalist.
I don’t hate it per se, but would rather it paid the artists better… quite simple really
And?
I’m paying £20/m for a lossless family plan from Deezer… That’s how they get you 😭. Now I’d have to apologize to my family members if I took away their subscription. Used to be around £17 when I started a few years back.
I do not recommend getting a family plan.
Spotify is still a thing?! Who knew… so many better options out there… hoping they crumble between artists leaving and no one wanting to deal with the drama and prices… they are about to be the “new vine” of pitfall and demise! Bye bye bye! Let the company burn!!
What better options are there? I’m old so don’t know
if you don’t mind downloading the music then Nictoine+, it’s a GUI for soulseek. essentially Napster/Limewire. Anything you can get on spotify you can pretty much get there.
Keep in mind, like Napster, it takes time to find things you want. If you have your own server or hell even a cloud server with unlimited bandwidth and a good chunk of space you can put your music on there that way you can just stream it to whatever device you use to listen to music. Essentially a media server.
I have Apple Music because I am a student so I pay way less than most but it downloads all my songs and playlists and can use it without data. But I also have the iHeartradio app which has my fave radio station plus so many podcasts.
But there is Apple Music, Tidal, iHeartradio, Soundcloud, Amazon Music, SiriusFM, qobuz, there are many.
No biggie. I never had subscriptions. I always thought it was a waste of money.
I switched to Tidal when I realised their stream quality was, at the minimum, double Spotify, and cheaper. Then all the controversial shit about Spotty came out and I was just shaking my head disapprovingly from the balcony
Hell yeah tidal friend. Same here. The only annoying thing is its memory for where I was in a song/playlist. Seems like I can click away and it forgets where I was. That’s the one thing Spotify has over tidal
I can’t even imagine paying for it to begin with.
I bought one of those $5 for the entire year accounts off some shady website.
It lasted for 5 years.
Will they be raising their rates in India? Because that’s where Spotify thinks I live now.
Is there any reasonable option that I can use on a Garmin watch standalone? I like to run without my phone and listen to a podcast and Spotify has been my go to.
Can your watch play mp3s? Most podcasts are available for download that way too.
I’m pretty sure it can, but I don’t actually know what subscription services or how it works to get podcasts downloaded. Spotify has been pretty easy. I guess it’s time to look into this stuff. I have been doing this stuff legit for a while, but I guess I could get back on the high seas too if I have to. I just wanted to make sure the people making content were getting paid, but I think Spotify is bad for that too. So tired of good services getting slowly worse.
remember when paying for music was considered cringe?
You can rip MP3 files by using a Youtube-to-MP3 converter.
Just stop using Spotify entirely.
github.com/justin025/onthespot
Way better. My personal library is reaching 375k songs.
And once you have them ripped (however you choose to do that), host them via a media server so you can access them from whatever device you like.
Is there any music on spotify that isn’t also on youtube? Youtube has practically everything, it has always seemed to me. I’ve never been tempted by spotify.
The 128 bitrate on YouTube is quite the drag IMO except for like carmusic maybe.
This and the fact that Youtube are just as much robbing gits… like I have said, I don’t want to sound mean but generally I’d like the artists to get paid for their work somehow. Now how to do that is the hard bit
I’m going to need a free (ads ok) option that I can try a little bit before I switch the whole family plan over. I tried downloading tidal and another one a little while back, and they didn’t last for long. One I couldn’t test without a subscription. I don’t remember the problem with another. I’m strictly in the convenience camp with this one folks. I just want to press play, I don’t have time to think about music otherwise.
If you’re on Android you won’t need a family plan, just get ReVanced and patch YT Music so it’s ad-free and plays in the background.
Neat tool, but this wouldn’t work for my whole family.
Amazon’s Prime Music? Most people have prime anyway, I think that comes with the ad version. Less than Spotify to switch to add free.
If you still have access to any .edu email addresses, you can get student rates for Apple Music, and probably others.
Ugh, yeah I haven’t considered that. We do have prime, but we’re really close to getting rid of it. We don’t watch Prime Video because it feels ridiculous to navigate and everything seems like an addon they want you to pay more for. I’d assume music is similar.
One of the main thing Spotify has going for it is indie artists, without a label. And so a large portion of my collection will not be on services like Tidal or Apple Music
Fedditor385@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s cheaper if you have 5 friends and take the family plan. I’m paying ~€2 a month for the last couple of years.
3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com 1 day ago
of course there are ways round it, but that’s not my point. Getting expensive
Fedditor385@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Getting expensive would be the wrong wording. The price of subscription is simply following inflation. Otherwise as long as the price stays the same while people get raises, you could say it’s getting cheaper.