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Mozilla under fire for Firefox AI "bloat" that blows up CPU and drains battery

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨moe90@feddit.nl⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.neowin.net/news/mozilla-under-fire-for-firefox-ai-bloat-that-blows-up-cpu-and-drains-battery/

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  • MithranArkanere@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Firefox does run better when you disable all “ml.chat” settings.

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  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    If AIust exist it should be in places where the general public cannot access nor interact with it

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  • MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Why does Mozilla think we want AI integrated in your browsers ??

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  • Mwa@thelemmy.club ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I just use Librewolf so its removed by default.

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  • nathan@piefed.alphapuggle.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Holy fucking shit. I swear to God, I had to download chromium because running Jupiter lab in browser ate through 22gb of ram and got my shit OOM killed. If this is what's causing it I stg. I'm not even using vanilla Firefox, but the Zen fork got tebased on v141 right before this happened

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    • Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Sounds kind a jupyter lab issue

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      • nathan@piefed.alphapuggle.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Julyterlab has been pinned for multiple versions now and the issue only started happening on the latest Firefox update. Still works fine in chromium

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  • barnaclebutt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Which fork should I be using? I am already using IronFox on Android and I’m loving it. What about Linux? What’s your favourite?

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    • theherk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I love Zen.

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      • U@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Zen user here also. Awesome project. Beautiful and useful browsing experience.

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    • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      They are all out of date, updates just take longer to arrive including security patches. Just use base Firefox and configure it as needed.

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      • Dozzi92@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Always the answer until it goes to complete shit. Folks will always suggest other forks, but in the same breath describe them as subpar compared to Firefox base. FF is still best, just tweak it a smidge, browse away.

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      • Zink@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        LibreWolf seems pretty fast about it. The difference is only ever a matter of a few days for routine updates.

        For example, it looks like Firefox 141 with the AI stuff was released on July 22, a few weeks ago.

        My LibreWolf install is 141.0.2 My Firefox install is 141.0.3

        That difference is worth it to me to know that various things I don’t want have been removed from the code entirely, and that I can keep a completely default install of Firefox and/or nuke and replace that install whenever necessary.

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      • barnaclebutt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        This is always the answer I go back to with Firefox. I just don’t see a benefit to switching (yet) to another version of Firefox.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’ve been using LibreWolf for a while and it works pretty well

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    • rozodru@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I like Floorp. it’s a FF fork by a Japanese dev team. Best I can compare it to is Vivaldi as far as customization (what Mozilla will allow).

      However the updates for it have been coming less frequently over time so I’m not sure how that bodes for the long term.

      But hey i’m currently building my own FF fork with fediverse integration, tree style/stacking tabs, and vim navigation sooooo look forward to that? /shameless self promotion.

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    • asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I am using LibreWolf. It’s probably the best fork out there.

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    • JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I can only answer that last question with Waterfox, as I’ve been using it for something like a decade.

      My other browser is Vivaldi because of the tab stacking feature makes organising, uh, …stuff… easier…

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    • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I use vanilla FF, Floorp, LibreWolf, and Mullvad in the FF family (plus Vivaldi for Chromium) - I only use vanilla FF for anything that I want to use persistent logins and containers for, so it’s like an hour a day at most. I only installed the update 36 hours ago, do other than set bookmarks, I haven’t searched anything with FF to give it the opportunity to recommend anything.

      In the settings, there’s 2 boxes you can un-check about recommendations. Seems pretty easy to disable this.

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    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Firefox-ESR.

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    • it_depends_man@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I have zen and librewolf on linux and waterfox on android.

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    • melroy@kbin.melroy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Waterfox on mobile and floorp on desktop.

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    • callyral@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Librewolf, with the Cascade CSS theme. I used to use Zen Browser but honestly I don’t really like vertical tabs that much.

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  • usjelo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Finally using Firefox ESR helped me

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  • Oneshot@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Demon tech

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  • vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Keep firing

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  • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    ppl composing complaining on the internet about something you can literally turn off with one about:config line never change internet

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    • warm@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The point is you shouldnt have to turn it off, its a web browser, we want to browse the web, not be subject to whatever shite Mozilla want to force into it. Features like this should be optional plugins you have to download.

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      • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        why shouldn't you have the option to turn things off? try turning off the ai features in chrome.

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  • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Firefox has always been resource heavy. Try having multiple streams open at the same time… The browser just takes a shit.

    If you want something much lighter and more stable waterfox is the way to go.

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  • UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    On my pixel 6 pro it takes a few seconds before I can start typing in the browser.

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    • Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      If you’re a little less afraid of stuff breaking, use IronFox, it’s been configured for privacy and security. If you don’t want websites to break as much use Fennec.

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