does “embracing AI” means replacing all these execs with it? or is it “too far”?
GitHub CEO delivers stark message to developers: Embrace AI or get out.
Submitted 3 months ago by mesamunefire@piefed.social to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.businessinsider.com/github-ceo-developers-embrace-ai-or-get-out-2025-8
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aliser@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Soup@lemmy.world 3 months ago
No, they’re all super special and have an “instinct” that a robot could never have. Of course the same does not go for artists or anyone who does the actual work for these “titans of industry”.
*by “instinct” we, of course, mean survivorship bias based on what is essentially gambling, exploitation, and being too big to fail.
falcunculus@jlai.lu 3 months ago
This is […] a strange marketing strategy by AI companies. Instead of selling products based on helpful features and letting users decide, executives often deploy scare tactics that essentially warn people they will become obsolete if they don’t get on the AI bandwagon.
Very insightful for me to read this. If AI in its present state was as useful as it is advertised, it wouldn’t need such apocalyptic language.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 3 months ago
It’s almost exactly the same sales strategy as crypto and nft.
JTskulk@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I got out when Microsoft bought it, glad I did. I don’t want you training your shitty AI on my shitty code.
TIL Github has a CEO.
redlemace@lemmy.world 3 months ago
such an easy choice …
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Message to Github CEO: your job is one thing AI is best at.
art@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Risky talking down to developers. Does the CEO not know that Git is like REALLY easy to move?!
Auth@lemmy.world 3 months ago
people are so apathetic these days that ceo’s feel comfortable publically saying this shit. They know there will be no major user loss.
Octavio@lemmy.world 3 months ago
[deleted]crimsonpoodle@pawb.social 3 months ago
I like the idea of it; yet you can’t host private repos. I don’t want to be locked in to GitHub but as someone starting their career it’s important to show that you’re working on stuff. Hence I worry that moving away from GitHub will negatively impact my interviewing prospects.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 months ago
You can with some caveats. It has to be stuff like configs or a project you intend to make FOSS later.
I’ve never had a job check my GitHub, but I could give Codeberg too.
mr_satan@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Two words: good fucking luck!
ragas@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
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the_doktor@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Dear all governments:
Ban AI. Completely.
Love,
Intelligent people
CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
Dear intelligent people:
Fuck you
DJT and the entirety of the Republican party
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Ban AI. Completely.
That is really short sighted. We all know it is not AI. The marketing is such bullshit.
But we also know that predictive algorithms can be useful. For instance: digitizing a property line, or identifying features in a lidar cloud, or discovering anomalies in blood cells. Then there are prediction tests and what if scenarios.
Seems like this is the same argument people had about computers in general. Ban all computers they said. Who knows maybe this guy in 1968 was right all along. and computers are the problem.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 months ago
This is the not all men’ of AI.
We know that there are use cases but with the massive prevalence of LLMs and image generators being forced i to everything we don’t need to list the exclusions every single time.
the_doktor@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Hey moron, computers by themselves aren’t oftem dangerously wrong and do not severely impact our environmemt with every brain-dead query. Not to mention horribly violate copyright.
I swear to fuck, every time some horrible technology comes along, there are people like you who compare wanting it thrown away with being a complete luddite. It shows your horrible bias and either blind devotion to mega-corporations or your affiliation with one (or more).
Either way: be silent. AI must be destroyed.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 months ago
I asked an AI to generate me some code yesterday. A simple interface to a REST API with about 6 endpoints.
And the code it made almost worked. A few fixes here and there to methods it pulled out of it’s arse, but were close enough to real ones to be an easy fix.
But the REST API it made code for wasn’t the one I gave it. Bore no resemblance to it in fact.
People need to realise that MS isn’t forcing it’s devs to write all code with AI because they want better code. It’s because they desperately need training data so they can sell their slop generators to gullible CEOs.
killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Microsoft mouthpiece echoes Microsoft talking point. News at eight.
warm@kbin.earth 3 months ago
what a pos
MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 months ago
We will see corporate douche.
Jocker@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Contradictory to the title, this message is not to the developers, developers don’t care what github ceo thinks, and they should know it. This might be for the management of other companies to allow using ai or integrate ai.
Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 3 months ago
CEO = Marketing with a different title. Trust the words out of their mouths the same.
vane@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Does github copilot include attributions and licenses from projects it copy paste code from or it’s just stealing and pretending like nothing happened like all other AI ?
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 3 months ago
I hate to say it, but this is going to be so much worse than cloud everything when it all comes crashing down.
Juice@midwest.social 3 months ago
You can always count on the ceos of smaller companies that are owned by larger mega corporations to tell it to ya straight with no bias
JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 months ago
Especially when Microsoft said for employees AI is no longer optional.
xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
GitHub is the worst git platform out there, I want version control not fucking Facebook for programming
Anyway,another point for "I’m just gonna make some money in this field nd fuck right off doing something actually useful "
whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
Curious when the last time business insider quoted a labor leader without a CEO or capitalist shill quoted inn the same article.
iglou@programming.dev 3 months ago
Oh I’m already out, but only of your shitty products.
vane@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I see Microsoft don’t need developers and those who work there are morons. That’s how I read what Github CEO said.
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Threatening remarks like that are why I learned PHPUnit, and yeah it made me become a better developer, but often times these are just empty statements.
AI is just another tool in my toolbox.
MoondropLight@thelemmy.club 3 months ago
Unit testing and TDD are awesome; but if you can avoid it: Don’t write things in PHP (unless it’s for work).
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
I’ve written a few personal projects in Laravel too, I don’t mind modern PHP tbh.
antihumanitarian@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’m a professional developer and have tested AI tools extensively over the last few years as they develop. The economic implications of the advancements made over the last few months are simply impossible to ignore. The tools aren’t perfect, and you certainly need to structure their use around their strengths and weaknesses, but assigned to the right tasks they can be 10% or less of the cost with better results. I’ve yet to have a project where I’ve used them and they didn’t need an experienced engineer to jump in and research an obscure or complex bug, have a dumb architectural choice rejected, or verify if stuff actually works (they like reporting success when they shouldn’t), but again the economics; the dev can be doing other stuff 90% of the time.
Don’t get me wrong, on the current trajectory this tech would probably lead to deeply terrible socioeconomic outcomes, probably techno neofeudalism, but for an individual developer putting food on the table I don’t see it as much of a choice. It’s like the industrial revolution again, but for cognitive work.
sobchak@programming.dev 3 months ago
I keep hearing stuff like this, but I haven’t found a good use or workflow for AI (other than occasional chatbot sessions). Regular autocomplete is more accurate (no hallucinations) and faster than AI suggestions (especially accounting for needing to constantly review the suggestions for correctness). I guess stuff like Cursor is OK at making one-off tools on very small code-bases, but hits a brick-wall when the code base gets too big. Then you’re left with a bunch of unmaintainable code you’re not very familiar with and you would to spend a lot of time trying to fix yourself. Dunno if I’m doing something wrong or what.
I guess what I’m saying is that using AI can speed you up to a point while the project accumulates massive amounts of technical debt, and when you take into account all the refactoring and debugging time, it results in taking longer to produce a buggier project. At least, in my experience.
antihumanitarian@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’ve used it most extensively doing Ruby on Rails greenfield apps, and also some JS front ends, some Python mid sized apps, and some Rust and Nix utilities. You’re absolutely right about it struggling with code base scale, I had to rework the design process around this. Essentially, design documentation telling the story, workflow documentation describing in detail every possible functionality, and an iteration schedule. So the why, what, and how formalized and in detail, in that order. It can generate the bulk of those documents given high level explanations, but require humans to edit them before making them the ‘golden’ references. Test driven development is beyond critical, telling it everywhere to use it extensively with writing failing tests first seems to work best.
So to actually have it do a thing I load those documents into context, give it a set unit of work from the iteration schedule, and work on something else.
It does go down some seriously wrong paths sometimes, like writing hacky work arounds if it incorrectly diagnosing some obscure problem. I’ve had a few near misses where it tried to sneak in stuff that would bury future work in technical debt. Most problematic is it’s just subtle enough that a junior dev might miss it; they’d probably get sent down a rabbit hole with several layers of spaghetti obscuring the problem.
AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 3 months ago
That’s perfect for higher ups. They don’t care if what you release has bugs as long as you work on them when they pop up, they consider that part of your job. They want a result quickly and will accept 85% if it moves the needle forward.
These people don’t care about technical debt, they don’t care about exploits until it happens to them, then it’s how bad and how long to fix. No one cares about doxxes anymore, it’s just the cost of doing business. Like recalls.
This is perfect for CEOs and billionaires because they don’t care how something is done at a 35,000 foot view, they just want it now. AI is a nightmare of exploits that haven’t even begun to be discovered yet. Things that will be easily exploitable, especially by other algorithms.
Coders are just as effected by supply and demand, and the demand is for AI products.
Taldan@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’m finding AI effectively automates entry level jobs and interns. The long term implications is very few will be able to enter the field. What do we do when all the experienced engineers retire? How will we shift our economy to work for everyone under this model?
Rainbowblite@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Forward-thinking has never been capitalism’s strong suit.
ragas@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Can you give an example of what those entry level jobs may be? Because I have yet to encounter a position where an AI would be as smart as an entry level person.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Way ahead of you, looked for GitHub alternatives such as codeberg ages ago.
PlexSheep@infosec.pub 3 months ago
I have a lot of projects, many OSS and some private. I self host forgejo for my private stuff and also have a lot of my oss there.
Still, I currently use GitHub as my main git service, since it’s the most polished code forge and their ci servers are free and fast as fuck. The only other thing keeping me there is the network effect in the sense that I like my projects to be more discoverable, not that anyone gives a shit about my code besides a few friends and randos.
If they get annoying, it’s trivial to move. I got the infrastructure set up, and forgejo federation is coming.
_AutumnMoon_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
I’ve always hated GitHub glad to see it finally is going to crumble
kadup@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I really don’t understand CEO’s obsession with AI… is it because when they give LLMs a go they feel smart and finally capable of doing the things others could do but they were too dumb to engage with, like reasonably good writing or drawing pictures?
alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
It’s the ultimate yes man.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
My guess?
anthropomorphism.
People are assigning thought and specifically intent to the replies that they get from ML and LLMs. They don’t realize that the model is essentially just an unchecked auto correct that uses the entirety of everything posted on the public Internet as it’s basis for what to reply to a prompt, the same way your phone tries to predict what word you want to say next based on what you’ve typed so far.
It’s just a lot bigger and more complex than the auto correct and word prediction that your phone has.
But that’s it. That’s all it does. It’s not thinking. It’s not intelligent. It has no intent. It cannot cognitively understand what it’s saying or doing.
Taking to “AI” is basically having the average of all Internet content as a basis for the reply. That means it’s going to make shit up, tell you to eat glue, and generally fuck around.
But most people seem to assign it human-like traits of reasoning and intent, when there isn’t any. CEOs included.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 months ago
My honest take, it’s a bubble. Everyone sees the (seemingly) impressive things people do with AI and ask “why can’t you do that?”
Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 months ago
It will be their undoing. AIs are primed to replace the most expensive jobs first. I guess, in a way, they are training their replacement.
DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 3 months ago
Well, given git is decentralized and self-hostable…
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Guess I’m migrating code to a different service then 🤷♂️