I am embracing AI. For better or worse, it’s here to stay. The issue with the current AI models is that they are over-hyped. It would just lead to a bubble burst like had happened with dotcom. The full capability of AI will probably improve in ten or fifteen years.
GitHub CEO delivers stark message to developers: Embrace AI or get out.
Submitted 1 month ago by mesamunefire@piefed.social to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.businessinsider.com/github-ceo-developers-embrace-ai-or-get-out-2025-8
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TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 month ago
stoly@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Is it, though? AI has been around to stay for 20 years. The difference really is that a bunch of tech bros are worshiping it while trade rags talk it up.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The previous iterations of LLMs is not even that close enough to be called AI unlike the current ones we have right now. In many years to come, the AI will improve.
jj4211@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’ll agree that it’s here to stay, but not so sure it’s going to obviously improve. I have had access to various LLMs and while they are useful, they are very obviously limited and have kind of been at that level for a while now. Feel like they’ve largely gotten as “capable” as the strategy is going to get, and now the game is on to make some things friendlier for LLM consumption to get that capability more usefully available.
At least in the context of coding.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Same, but I still don’t find it particularly useful. It does help in the research phase and maybe bootstrapping, but not as much for regular development.
I use it where it makes sense, but it’s certainly over-hyped.
z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Damn, Microsoft rolling out the “Fuck You” hits lately. Allowing hate speech against Transgender people on LinkedIn, and now this shit on Github, not even mentioning the absolute bullshit their Desktop is these days.
Never been a better time to be eying alternatives. Fuck you Github CEO, fuck you LinkedIn, fuck you Microsoft, and fuck you Satya Nadella! 🖕🖕🖕🖕
frostysauce@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Don’t forget they are committed to assisting Israel commit genocide in Gaza.
puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
[deleted]JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 month ago
Use Codium instead of VS Code. VS Code is fauxpen source.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
I refuse to use C# as a matter of principle at this point.
Psaldorn@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The git site has instructions on how to create your own git server in 30 mins.
It’s very easy once you know it’s literally just an SSH account.For personal projects or small teams is absolutely fine.
For open source there are lots of GitHub alternatives
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Git out.
Luci@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Looks like I’ll get out then.
biotin7@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
Ok, we go now
MITM0@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yeah but where ? What’s the ideal replacement for Github ?
sobchak@programming.dev 1 month ago
For open source stuff, Codeberg is good. For private stuff, just git + ssh is good. Gitlab and Bitbucket are fine for corporate stuff, I guess. An organization could just self-host a Forgejo (or Gitlab) instance as well.
AusatKeyboardPremi@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Call it the network effect, or the momentum of becoming a staple in the tech community, or whatever; GitHub is here to stay for a while, and the leaders in charge of it are well aware of this.
GitHub has gained enough attention that it is almost impossible to ignore. Projects on GitHub tend to attract a level of engagement (code contributions, issue reports, and feedback) that other code forges do not enjoy.
One unfortunate consequence of this, which I have experienced firsthand very recently, is when recruiters ask for links to my past work or open-source contributions but refuse to accept links to relevant repositories on GitLab. The number of companies where this occurred was significant enough for me to set up mirror repositories on GitHub.
Another frustrating but silly consequence was when I was questioned during one of the interviews why my activity graph on GitHub was empty. I had simply not enabled it.
Korne127@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The problem is the inter-connection to see everything a single person does and their stats. There should be the possibility for a new (decentralized) system in which you can authenticate all your known repositories, no matter whether they’re on GitHub, GitLab, Codeberg, self-hosted Gitea or something entirely different. And there you could have links to all your activity and a graph without being bound to any single service.
AusatKeyboardPremi@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That may be a good idea. However, people have had around two or more decades of familiarity with all things centralised and the conveniences associated with it.
It will take a great amount of time and effort to build a equivalently convenient decentralised alternative and to overcome the inertia to migrate to it.
The latter I believe is only possible when something enormously drastic happens. We had a good number of drastic events happen in the last decade (Twitter poisoning, Meta privacy breaches, Reddit shenanigans), but none enough to convince people to move to alternatives.
Another possibility is for regulations and/or governments to support the alternatives, but that may have unintended side effects of its own.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 month ago
Thanks for showing your true colors, asshole. I guess the git repositories I have to send potential employers to show the projects that I’ve done in my spare time might have to go self-hosted.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 month ago
welp I guess time to open a codeberg account
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
just saying codeberg and forgejo is right there and doesn't have ai rubbish.
stupe@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Replace the CEOs with AI. Hell, replace all executive positions with AI. Think of the savings!
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
They literally don’t do anything other than have meetings and injest executive level reports.
CEOs are unironically the prime candidates for replacing employees with AI, from a direct cost to employ the employee perspective.
I don’t give LLM AIs much credit, but they are more intelligent than the average CEO.
shads@lemy.lol 1 month ago
I got stuck today in a part of my workplace where they have one of the local shitty radio stations playing, couldn’t have my headphones in as people kept coming up and talking to me, and a shitty pop music mashup plays and it struck me, this is AI.
To clarify there is some shitty artist who gets the credit, but its just a selection of clips crossfaded and slightly processed into each other to make a new “song” out of a dozen pop songs. No actual creativity, no new material, just a quasi algorithmic blending of songs so that some soulless talentless grifter can claim they are an artist.
It gets deeper though, as mixed in there are songs that couldn’t actually be performed live and acoustic due to the amount of sound engineering and vocal processing that went into the original versions of these songs.
The whole thing is turning into an Ouroboros, they have worked out how to make perfectly bland, meaningless music and now the snake is eating its tail as the industry consumes that slop to manufacture more slop.
Yet deeper, why does this beige bullshit get air time… Why its our old friend capitalist market forces, no one passionate about music wants to make this shit, its the people who want the fame and money and view music as the means to that end.
We know that AI makes people dumber, we know that it leads to the atrophy of skill and talent, and we know the only motivation for its use is capitalist. AI is pop music.
For what its worth I used italics on AI as I categorically refuse to believe this garbage is actually artificial intelligence. I am reasonably certain that actual artificial intelligence is the next fusion power, it’s going to be “only a few years away” from being viable until well after I die, but its just too good a marketing term to leave it alone while we make do with these stunted chinese rooms.
Wow that rant blew up.
shads@lemy.lol 1 month ago
Ahh down votes in lieu of a substantive argument. Love it. If there wasn’t a thread to pull on in all that word salad that would unravel the tapestry do you think maybe there’s something to my take on this matter?
Anyway, don’t care, this isn’t Reddit so a downvote doesn’t mean shit, and you at least read some of my post. To quote a somewhat famous Doctor “Don’t you think she looks tired?”
vxx@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yep, autotune rappers have been pushed for years, and I always suspected it’s to make the transition to AI music easier.
sturger@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Good analogy. Basically:
- People play music and people enjoy listening to music.
- Businessman inserts himself between the musician and the audience to “deliver the music”.
- Businessman charges listeners huge money to deliver music, gives no money to musicians.
- Businessman the decides to replace the musician with a robot (e.g. “AI”)
- Businessman explodes market. Listeners leave. Businessman gets bailout from government.
shads@lemy.lol 1 month ago
See I also think that there is something to be said about how there’s people still out there making new music, performing it, recording. But business has captured the market and is drowning out the smaller players. The signal to noise ratio gets so skewed that even if the best song you never heard is only a web search away you may never listen to it because your streaming service will never play it. But the soulless corporate remix of a remix of a cover of a song from the 80s, you hear that 4 times a day because they have a marketing budget and algorithmic influence.
frostysauce@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Tell me you’ve never written a song without telling me you’ve never written a song…
shads@lemy.lol 1 month ago
Maybe I am misreading your comment here, but I am going to take it on face value, I have never written a song. In an interesting note believe cutting pages out of a bunch of books and sticking them together in a new binding wouldn’t make a compelling read, I also have never written a novel.
I seriously respect people who can write songs, I would imagine they have or had passion for the art. I seriously doubt any song writer is out there thinking "Holy fuck this song is amazing, I really hope some shithead producer crops the chorus and mashes it together with a bunch of other tracks to make it completely meaningless. That would make it perfect.’
DancingBear@midwest.social 1 month ago
thatradomguy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I can already tell the guy is a huge fan of cheeto prez.
blackjam_alex@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I still remember when some people said Microsoft buying GitHub wouldn’t be a problem in the future.
ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Time to self host this bitch!
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Selfhost what? Git? Thats just a version control software. The only reason Github/Gitlab/etc exists is because people wanted a central repo to work from.
tmp0730@programming.dev 1 month ago
I don’t think this is true. People didn’t want to host their own. It’s a pretty big task that takes time and attention away from other activities. Especially if you want your repo to face the public. Just keeping it secure can be a part-time job.
Perhaps it is becoming more feasible these days.
ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Just in case if you’re on drugs, forgejo.org
ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
……what?
notannpc@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Gargle my balls or get out.
Hadriscus@jlai.lu 1 month ago
CEOs, dude. Some things never change.
CodeBlooded@programming.dev 1 month ago
A few years ago, there was potential for dirty looks coming your way if you suggested that you may be using AI for generating code. Soon, it’s going to be frowned upon to boast that you don’t use AI tools (because you’re probably wasting time).
kokesh@lemmy.world 1 month ago
… Ok!
frog_brawler@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Essentially… Leave now, or contribute to training your replacement.
goatinspace@feddit.org 1 month ago
Not using github anyway
eddanja@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I don’t think he’s wrong in some regards, but only in the ‘AI looks somewhat promising in our future’. He didn’t need to be condescending about it.
NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Embrace? With so many devs constantly being laid off, how about NO?
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 month ago
Why do all these idiots behave as if they knew where the future is?
If it’s about all the achievements they’ve read about and seen in games like Civilization, real-life doesn’t quite look like that. Though in some sense these games, though good, have kinda simplified and made degenerate the understanding of the progress by many people. Similarly to what Soviet school program did, but in a more persuasive and pleasant way.
There’s no tech tree. There’s been plenty of attempts at any breakthrough before it actually happened. Suppose this “AI” is to some real future AGI what Leonardo’s machines were to Wright brothers’ machines, even in that case there’s no hurry to embrace it.
If he thinks he’s looking at a 90% achieved tech tree point with powerful perks, then his profession should probably be that of a janitor. Same day schedule, same places to mop up, you know.
Feyd@programming.dev 1 month ago
No u lol
Jaded99@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Ah yes, the noble Caveman Coder, hunched over their keyboard like it’s a slab of stone, grunting at a missing semicolon for the past three hours. Meanwhile, the AI user already built the same app, deployed it, A/B tested it, and had time for a coffee break and existential crisis. But no worries, Caveman insists “real coders solve things manually” as they slowly reinvent the wheel… square-shaped, of course. Fire bad. IDE scary. AI tool? “Witchcraft! Burn the witch 🧹
sobchak@programming.dev 1 month ago
I’ve tried Copilot for a while and played around with Cursor for a bit. I was better and faster without Copilot due to sometimes not paying enough attention of the lines it would generate. This would cause subtle bugs that took a long time to debug. Cursor just produced unmaintainable code-bases that I had no knowledge of, and to make major changes, would be faster for me to just rewrite it from scratch. The act of typing gives me time to think more about what I’m doing or am going to do, while Copilot generations are distracting and break my thought processes. I work best with good LSP tooling and sometimes AI chatbots (mostly just for customized example snippets for libraries or frameworks I’m unfamiliar with; though that has its own problems because the LLMs knowledge is out of date a lot) that don’t directly modify my code.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
And the vibe coder is also blissfully unaware of all the zero days he/she has also deployed along with his prompted autocomplete output of a program.
Great work! Very efficient!
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 1 month ago
is there any script or tool out there that helps automate the mirroring of GH repos to Codeberg (or another forge)? I have 150+ repos, most are archived or outdated, but if I’m migrating I’d like to do with everything.
neblem@lemmy.world 1 month ago
www.rahuljuliato.com/posts/github_to_codeberg has some instructions on how to do a bulk migration using LionyxML’s script. codeberg.org/LionyxML/migrate-github-to-codeberg
mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 month ago
Honestly,I just picked the 10 most used ones, mirrored them for a while, and called it a day. I believe there is processes out there but you may run into Github API restrictions if you do it all at the same time (and/or without a specific token).
chunes@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I already got out in March when github decided to close my account because I didn’t want to involve my phone with my github account.
Codeberg has been a much more pleasant experience.