Finally it seems the end of Reddit is near.
Reddit users in the UK must now upload selfies to access NSFW subreddits
Submitted 5 hours ago by themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com to technology@lemmy.world
https://mashable.com/article/reddit-age-verification-check-uk-law-online-safety
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AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 43 minutes ago
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 20 minutes ago
Like father, like son, I guess.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 25 minutes ago
AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 31 minutes ago
Perfect use for that old “This Person Doesn’t Exist” website.
lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Blackmist@feddit.uk 26 minutes ago
Just post on them. Two birds with one stone.
But if you do comply, double down by ringing Kier Starmer up and letting him (and your local MP) know what you’ve been wanking off to, since he’s so fucking interested. He could have blocked this, but he let it run because he also agrees with it.
I wonder if there’s a browser addon to make an itemised list of all the videos and camgirls and then I can send it to him on a regular basis. It should log when you close the browser window so it knows when you’ve “finished” so to speak. Maybe I could highlight those videos in bold for him, so he can skip right to the good ones.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world 16 minutes ago
There’s an app for that. Talk to Mike Johnson.
Outwit1294@lemmy.today 1 hour ago
This whole thing is a security disaster waiting to happen.
Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 25 minutes ago
“Oops, our password was ‘Reddit’ and we’ve had a leak” in coming.
BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
This is a combination of terrible legislation in the UK meets awful social media site.
The Online Safety Act is an abomination, compromising the privacy and freedom of the vast majority of the UK in the name of “protecting children”.
I’m of the view parents are responsible for protecting their children. I know it’s hard but the Online Safety Act is not a solution.
All it will.do is compromise the privacy and security of law abiding adults while kids will still access porn and all the other really bad stuff on the Internet will actually be unaffected. The dark illegal shit on the Internet is not happening on Pornhub or Reddit.
The UK is gradually sliding further and further into censorship, and authoritarianism and all the in the name of do gooders. It’s scary to watch.
SippyCup@feddit.nl 1 hour ago
The online safety act isn’t actually about protecting children. That’s a smoke screen for a surveillance bill. They want to eliminate anonymity online.
ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 2 hours ago
The solution to all of this “think of the children” stuff is that devices owned/used by children should have to be registered as a child’s device, which would enable certain content blockers.
Forcing adults to verify their identity, rather than simply activating some broad based restrictions on devices being purchased for child use, is a waste of time. Kids will still find workarounds. Adult privacy will be compromised.
Its also an easily enforceable policy to require registration of children’s devices. You can hold the parents to compliance. You can hold the carriers to compliance. Its truly the simplest way to keep kids from accessing porn without having to mess with adult use of the internet whatsoever
iii@mander.xyz 24 minutes ago
Adult privacy will be compromised.
Goal achieved. “Think of the children” is subterfuge.
squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
The solution to all of this “think of the children” stuff is that devices owned/used by children should have to be registered as a child’s device, which would enable certain content blockers.
That’s kinda the case right now already, but the problem is that adult-only sites don’t work with that currently.
So the right solution would be to mandate that e.g. all sites are required to return a header with an age recommendation or something similar, so that a device set to child-mode then can block all these sites. And if a site doesn’t set the header, it will also get blocked on child-mode devices
Wouldn’t be too hard to do, and accidental overblocking would only occur on child-mode devices, so there’s not much of a loss there.
Legislation could then be focussed on mandating that these headers aren’t falsely set (e.g. a porn site setting the header to child-friendly).
anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 hour ago
I don’t think this is a good idea…
This is even more invasive - it would mean all the traffic and activity in every device would be traceable to a registration. Whereas now they might have a pretty good lock on individual device ids, they’d then have an actual registry of devices and owners to verify it against
aceshigh@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
The arguments that I’ve seen against that is that the problem is the hardware. The child can figure out/find a hack to circumvent the restrictions. A determined 11/12 year old could do it. They’re the ones who still need restriction.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
that's what happens when the uk has had 40+ years of constant tory rule (and yes blue labour are tories)
genevieve@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
“Reddit has stressed that this system is only to verify users’ age, and it has no interest in your identity. Lee further stated that Persona won’t know what subreddits you visit, and has promised it won’t keep users’ uploaded images more than seven days.”
Press X to doubt.
dugmeup@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Time to go to LemmyNSFW
blackn1ght@feddit.uk 4 hours ago
Under the new UK law, lemmynsfw would also need to have some kind of age verification for UK users.
lotharmatthaeus@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
That’s always down when I want to use it :(
UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Google uses reddit for its AI training. Just saying.
killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Very careful wording there to switch between Persona and Reddit to conveniently omit one from the justification given by the other.
themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
It is not just that, I don’t trust Persona security, it a malicious actor installed a silent program that monitors users and sends it to a command and control center they probably won’t know for months or even years. Cyber security these is very bad in most companies.
gigachad@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
Why doubt, I mean they promised?
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
Presses X furiously
fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
They better be NSFW selfies.
db2@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Sharpies
bnrnrtbgd@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
If the UK is going to require adult verification it should be built into your internet contract. Yeah, I’m an adult. I’m paying my bills, of course I’m a fucking adult. I over pay for this garbage internet.
Uploading a selfie? The ai is going to determine if you’re over 18? Can the ai determine if the selfie is also ai?
Denjin@lemmings.world 55 minutes ago
What if I’m actually a set of traffic lights and the AI can’t work out what I am from my selfie?
TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 2 hours ago
Yeah, it’s some serious BS. They are forcing you to hand over and trust Reddit with your personal information, yet I wouldn’t trust them if my life depended on it.
At the very least, someone in charge of this legisltion should learn OAuth2 and force the sites they want to comply by only let those OAuth2 accounts access their adult content. If I was in the UK, I’d just pay for a VPN over giving my photo to Reddit. That site is a lobby brigade hellhole whose “we know your dark secrets, we know everything” owner is also probably trading your account details on the side.
fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 2 hours ago
Can the AI determine if I’m just uploading photos of Kier Starmer as my ID?
mbirth@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
it should be built into your internet contract
This works fine with personal contracts like your mobile. (EE has a porn filter that you can disable in your account.)
But it doesn’t quite work for contracts that usually have multiple users. Like your home Internet. Because a child could connect to your WiFi and access that shmutz.
bnrnrtbgd@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
Parental controls exist. Why should single adults be forced to jump through hoops because most parents are lazy fucks who don’t take responsibility for their kids?
notarobot@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
Then have the ISPs provide an interface to set which devices can access porn. No ID required.
genevieve@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
The “won’t somebody please think of the children” rhetorical tactic is always just a pretext for authoritarianism, mass surveillance and data privacy intrusion. Always. It’s the perfect motte-and-bailey: when you attack the actual motives, the motte becomes, “So you don’t care about children?”
Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
UK is full blown authoritarian now. They have been arresting journalists who are covering the genocide in Gaza and designated a direct action protest group as a terrorist organisation.
survirtual@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
These assholes are all pedophiles and they use it to control the planet. To get to high levels of government, you must enter the shadow contract of pedophilia. It is easy to control people and trust people with that kind of shadow on them, so it is required.
Then they turn around and use pedophilia to control everyone else. Any tech that threatens their power, they can immediately shutdown by pedo-bombing it. The counter to pedobombing is authoritarian moderation. Once you have that, it is over. The government they control now can control the mods, and that means they control the narrative. THAT is one of the core enemies to fight. An alternative to Reddit or any other system is not enough.
Because pedophilia is such a taboo / social death sentence, it is among the most powerful shadow contracts.
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
Yeah, I will definitely trust an internet stranger with my face so they can verify that I’m not underage to access content which could, in case of being leaked, damage my reputation or even destroy my life.
DEFINITELY
plumbercraic@lemmy.sdf.org 2 hours ago
Lol. Fuck off reddit.
jhoward@lemmy.sdf.org 5 hours ago
What’s to stop uploading a random picture of a person? Or even an AI generated person? I get what they’re trying to do, but seems like legislative theater more than anything.
iii@mander.xyz 5 hours ago
I’ve once attempted to open a bank account where they wanted video proof, and expected me to say a randomly assigned phrase. I didn’t do it.
Fucking KYC is BS.
themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
Banks are highly regulated so it is not surprising that thet would as for identity proof, reddit on the other hand has no business doing it.
Technofrood@feddit.uk 4 hours ago
So from my experience of these type of systems (mostly in the context of banking services) they normally want to use your devices camera to take the picture directly, and normally also want a photo of a photographic ID to compare against.
HeyJoe@lemmy.world 7 minutes ago
Sounds like a good area that’s about to get a whole lot better at faking this system. I would just take a picture of a picture if that’s what it takes. Then again, I would never do this and will just look elsewhere.
manualoverride@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Let’s not forget all that lovely metadata they can harvest by accessing the camera module, including the exact GPS co-ordinates the picture was taken.
Babalugats@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Within banking apps it has become the norm, it shouldn’t mean it’s acceptable, but for the wider community it is accepted.
But for a fucking forum?? Christ. Especially at a time when Europe are trying to establish digital sovereignty and all of the stories coming out about the US government having access to data. We already know that they are willing to share that with the highest bidder (s).
People would have to be absolute morons to upload anything personal to Reddit, nevermind your photo ID like a passport or driving licence. But obviously that’s what they’re banking on (people being morons).
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
To follow compliance with the Know Your Customer Pornographic Materials Act, please use the following guidelines for your photograph:
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The picture must be clear, at least 720x480p.
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The picture must include your entire body, including your head and toes. Portrait only. *This helps us identify you better.
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Please remove any articles of clothing, your body must be unimpeded by any obstruction. *Burqas and other headscarves must be removed, no exceptions.
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If you were assigned female at birth, you will be required to rotate 180 degrees and upload another portrait photograph of your back. *Please use only your valid binary gender at birth, either male or female.
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Further requests for identification photos are at our discretion, our board has full authority. You may be required to upload alternative photos, such as positions bending over to help us identify your genitalia to ensure it matches your birth gender.
Technoworcester@feddit.uk 1 hour ago
I know this is a joke but I’m worried it might not be in the future.
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 hour ago
Harassment will not be tolerated. Your comment has been sent to the board for review and we will decide whether your identity will be removed from Persona. We are not obligated by law to communicate the outcome. You may receive a writ for violating codicil 3 C, “Requirement of official identification”.
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nyan@lemmy.cafe 1 hour ago
Why do I have a feeling that a handful of people are going to suddenly become n-tuplets?
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
does the federated nature of lemmy/piefed/kbin/etc prevent governments from taking action against them?
Outwit1294@lemmy.today 1 hour ago
Kind of
Gutek8134@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Let’s see how much VPN subscription count will go up
pastermil@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
You’re overestimating Reddit’s value.
teft@piefed.world 1 hour ago
Going the way of tumblr? I’m sure it will work out well for them. /s
chunes@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
I can’t tell you how tired I am of hearing about all the absolutely inane batshit coming out of the UK. Holy shit your country is a dumpster fire.
pHr34kY@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
I’d send them a pic of my hairy bollocks as proof.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
That’s how they get your real identity and send you to jail for opposing the Western genocide du jour…
kokesh@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Why would anyone use that shit after this?
Brewchin@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
By “that shit”, do you mean every website/app that may contain age-restricted (not just sexual) content? Because that’s what comes into force in the UK next week.
I’ve been dreading this for decades. 🤬
It’s not just Reddit, nor are they the first to roll it out early.
MagicShel@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
Many sites will just geo-block the UK. I think my Lemmy instance has, just like PornHub has blocked US states that have passed similar laws.
iii@mander.xyz 5 hours ago
Because all the alternatives will have to implement similar shit as well. It’s UK law.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 hours ago
So can I upload a dick pic?
daggermoon@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
That’s what you get for using Reddit.
floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 hours ago
Unfortunately it’ll be what UK users get for using any site, since it’s the law.
Perspectivist@feddit.uk 2 hours ago
This applies to every single site that hosts adult content - not just reddit.
lemmyuser68@sopuli.xyz 5 hours ago
🤮
ladfrombrad@lemdro.id 5 hours ago
drspod@lemmy.ml 5 hours ago
How old is your account?
ladfrombrad@lemdro.id 4 hours ago
Ah there we go, same old shit
If you visit via old.reddit you can dismiss the modals to sign into the app or your account.
ladfrombrad@lemdro.id 4 hours ago
Reddit account?
Pretty old since I haven’t nuked it yet, but I’m not even signed in above as you can see from the above screenshot
I should really login sometime to see if I have lots of threats from mister greedy Spez piggy again, but the headline here doesn’t match up to me trying it in the UK rn.
Mihies@programming.dev 4 hours ago
It’d be only fair if they required NSFW selfies.
berno@lemmy.world 11 minutes ago
Fuck Reddit fuck spez