I hopped on the Linux train when Microsoft began pushing hard for AI integration and Microsoft accounts. I fucking hate AI and I don’t need some corpo cunt looking over my shoulder and taking notes while I use my computer.
Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share In USA
Submitted 1 day ago by herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.world
https://ostechnix.com/linux-reaches-5-desktop-market-share-in-usa/
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kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 hour ago
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 15 minutes ago
Welcome! Because we Linux aficionados are incorrigibly nosy and passionate, which distro did you pick and how are you liking it so far?
tehn00bi@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
I made the switch recently for probably the strangest reason.
I’ve been running win 11 for over a year using a shell tool that allowed me to move my task bar to the top of the screen and some other win 10 functionality.
However win 11 removed the ability to move the task bar and my shell program lost most of its functionality. After that I was done.
I’ve Linux off and on since 2002ish so it’s not scary to me and I’m pretty happy with Arch and KDE right now. Still the occasional crash that appears to happen sometimes when watching YouTube.
dil@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
idk how you stayed on windows so long, had I tried linux sooner I wouldve dumped it faster, no software support or piracy for said software if it does have support is rough tho like houdinifx is hard to pirate if not impossible, davinci is easy tho, adobe has no support (no idea if it works well with wine pirated)
whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
If anyone is stuck on windows and not able to switch there’s a program called wind hawk that will let you download customizations in windows 11 including moving the bar
tehn00bi@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
From my reading all ways to move the task bar have been removed.
Switorik@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I just transitioned to Linux. Fully removed windows.
I’m doing my part!
FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
I consider myself a trans ally, but I’m struggling to keep up with the latest pronouns. Congrats!
ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 21 hours ago
I identify as Linux and my pronouns are root/+u.
goatinspace@feddit.org 1 day ago
It’s not perfect but there are different values
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
The funny thing is there are lots of things that are designed better on Linux vs Windows/macos too.
My memory is fading on some of them since I primarily use Windows for work and a steam deck for gaming now, but keyboard shortcuts was definitely one of them. Easier to get shit done automation-wise from simple scripts. CMD is so basic and PowerShell feels like my fingers are exhausted from doing a simple thing, and like you always need to write a paragraph to get a simple thing done.
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
Proton is a big deal for the change. Think back 5 years ago and switching to Linux was much less approachable because you needed to be an enthusiast to get your games running. Nowadays, you just click download on the Linux Steam client and >90% of the time, it’ll just work.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
I have been on Linux for over 15 years and even I don’t want to go back to the old days of manually installing Wine and having to create different prefixes to get different games to launch without sound. or some missing textures.
Zink@programming.dev 2 hours ago
Hear, hear!
There is nothing wrong, and in fact there is something good, with FOSS being polished and user friendly out of the box.
Historically that has not been a priority, because FOSS has been by the computer nerds, for the computer nerds. But if that priority shifts to being a bit more “by the computer nerds, for the normies” then that is a good thing as long as the developers don’t prevent the power users from accessing any part of the system they want. Fortunately that completely against the point of the FOSS world.
I first learned Unix in the 90s, I use my Linux desktop more than my phone, I’m an engineer on embedded systems digging through C and C++ code all day, I have terminals open all day, and… I have Linux Mint Cinnamon installed on all my machines and love it. Change My Mind, lol.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
not manually, yeah, but bottles and such are still really useful. it shows how much good GUI tools help with usability for everyone
AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I ended up wading into the world of WINE prefixes when I tried to mod some older games. I got it working in the end, but it sure made me grateful for how easy I have it with Proton
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
I, on the contrary, prefer it when everyone uses mainstream Wine with winetricks and prefixes so if something doesn’t work, you can at least fix it using someone’s advice posted on winehq. With Proton it seems that everyone expects stuff to either just work or doesn’t bother. The Proton advice is usually as valuable as Windows problems advice.
gizmonicus@sh.itjust.works 23 hours ago
100% this. I’ve been on Linux for 27 years now (ffs I’m getting old), and until proton, I just wrote off gaming as a hit or miss experience, usually not worth the trouble. Now I’ll buy Windows only games without even checking compatibility in most cases. Unless it’s a full price AAA game, I’ll risk the off chance that it doesn’t work.
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 7 hours ago
Clair Obscur worked out of the box and it took a while for me to realize that I didn’t even check before buying.
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 10 hours ago
I think it’s less Proton, more Vulkan/DXVK. Proton is just wrapping these amazing things. Before DXVK, games in Linux used to suck big time.
underscores@lemmy.zip 22 hours ago
Gaming on Mac was also more or less the same when it came to running windows games, had to use wine
And I’m sorry y’all I know wine is awesome but using it manually is a pain in the ass and I hated it and I consider myself more of an enthusiast
FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Crossover isn’t cheap, but it can save so much time compared to WINE that I think it does pay for itself.
moody@lemmings.world 21 hours ago
Honestly, 5 years ago Proton was already in pretty good shape. 2018 is when I switched to Linux, and already had very little trouble gaming.
Patches@ttrpg.network 19 hours ago
Yes but nobody knew about it. SteamOs brought that to the surface.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
If we can get close to that kind of support for productivity software, I think Linux usage would explode. One of the problems with business adoption is that specialized software almost always skips Linux. The Affinity suite, for example. I’m hoping we see some snowballing now that Linux is growing so quickly, but getting Wine/Proton working with more non-game software would also be an enormous win.
aliser@lemmy.world 1 day ago
now is a good time to switch. Im so glad im off windows and their bullshit. a lot of games just work, including many online games, which is super cool. often there’s no difference between launching a game on Linux vs windows.
Univ3rse@lemmynsfw.com 1 day ago
Absolutely. Linux in general has become very approachable. I recently came back to Linux after 15 years away and I have been very impressed with how well everything just works. I’ve only experienced very minor issues with peripherals that were solved with a simple Google search or update.
JimmyKerr@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
I use arch btw
fluxion@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
This guy uses arch btw
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 hours ago
It wasn’t immediately clear, I think you need to change your username to IUseArchBtw so we all know off the bat.
Bluewing@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Real men and women run Slack. Tarballs Yum!
To head off the zealots-- ./././
fluxion@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Gentoo with allllllllll the custom cflags while hanging a 20 lb weight off your scrotum
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
mrodri89@lemmy.zip 20 hours ago
Thank you Pewdiepie!!
voodooattack@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
He single-handedly changed a lot of people’s impression of Linux with a single video, and he did it gently enough to not intimidate and scare them away like many others did. I respect that.
HeyJoe@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Is he really the reason? I just started trying a bunch over the past month through vm’s to see which one I like the best because I want to take the leap soon. I am doing it mostly due to the video game performance and compatibility reaching high enough levels that I don’t think it will be a big issue anymore. I also listed out all my current Windows apps and looked up what the alternative is, and from what I see, there is nothing left that won’t run on Linux anymore. The next step is seeing how some compare to what I am used to.
I can’t be the only one who is noticing its current state and just wanting to try something different. I don’t hate windows like everyone talks about it online, but I am at the point where I am noticing they are only going to get worse with privacy and continue to make awful built in features that do more to benefit themselves over you. So the 2 lines have crossed paths, and I think it’s the perfect storm for Linux soon.
18107@aussie.zone 18 hours ago
He has a large audience and used his position to publicise it.
There have been countless volunteers and enthusiasts who have worked hard to make Linux worth publicising.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
Keep in mind quite a lot of online games have recently banned linux players, in case there’s an important game for you like that.
cass80@programming.dev 17 hours ago
I’m out of the loop. What did he do?
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
be a racist piece of shit with the emotional maturity of a 12 year old with fetal alcohol syndrome?
mrodri89@lemmy.zip 15 hours ago
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVI_smLgTY0&t=7s
He made a video encouraging people to try Linux.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
Recommended Linux.
qevlarr@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Every year Linux fans:
👐 It’s happening! 👐
jabjoe@feddit.uk 12 hours ago
Wow, that’s excluding Chrome OS, which has 2.71% on it’s own. So you could say Linux is at over 7%, but glad they split it so we know.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
ChromeOS is going to the Google graveyard, to be replaced by android
(Maybe this is a good thing as Chromebooks have an expiration date averaging 3-5 years where they stop getting Chrome updates, when if it’s android can get updates to the browser for a much longer time AND have Firefox as default)
unixcat@lemmy.world 58 minutes ago
Android is also Linux though
kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 hour ago
I have an old Chromebook that I used for D&D sessions that is now collecting dust because they stopped supporting the model and use security hardware to prevent overwriting the drive that I have neither the tools or skills to circumvent.
Google can blow me where the pampers is.
jabjoe@feddit.uk 6 hours ago
Well yes, but Android now has a Debian container option. If they expose some Wayland/X interface to it for displaying stuff on Android, for a load of stuff, maybe that is good enough for a lot of stuff?
Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Linux as an OS is generally meant as desktop Linux, mostly following freedesktop guidelines, which has traditionally helped standards on Linux a lot. So for instance XFCE/Gnome/KDE desktop apps can be run in all the different desktop environments. Also standardizing things like how tray icons work. Freedesktop is part of X.Org Foundation, and Chrome OS does not use X.org standards at all.
So while Chrome OS is based on the Linux kernel, it is NOT a Linux OS in the original sense, a term that became popular decades before Chrome OS or Android became a thing.
If you include Chrome OS you might as well include Android too. As it can run on for instance Raspberry Pi and other mini systems, and could be used as a desktop system.
Chrome OS is a Linux kernel based OS, and not much more than that.
It’s somewhat confusing in some situations that Linux as a desktop OS doesn’t have a unique name, but it wasn’t a problem originally, as what some prefer to call GNU/Linux was made 100% for desktop use originally.The Linux kernel is way way more widespread and successful than what we usually term Desktop Linux or GNU/Linux.
jabjoe@feddit.uk 5 hours ago
This isn’t entirely right because Chrome OS is using a lot more of normal desktop Linux than Android does, which basically uses none.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChromeOS
Android is this completely different thing (built round OpenBinder) that ended up using the Linux kernel for good hardware support. It’s basically got nothing to do with desktop Linux, bar needed it to actually build Android. You can argue that Google basically tried forking Linux for Binder and control.
sommerset@thelemmy.club 5 hours ago
Everything is online.
Who even needs to run local apps anymore?Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 hours ago
I seriously don’t want everything to be a god damn webpage.
sommerset@thelemmy.club 3 hours ago
It’s better than an app without Linux version comrade
Zink@programming.dev 2 hours ago
The funny thing for me is that my job is like 80% webpages in LibreWolf on my Linux machine. But that’s because the company uses M365 and Github.
I use various different programs for different reasons just like anybody, but I bet browser + vscode + terminal covers 95% of my work day.
lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Anyone who wants to own what they create and doesn’t want their work stolen for some startup’s plagiarism engine. Anyone who is interested in privacy. Anyone who wants a consistent user experience. Anyone who wants to be exempt from sinister targeted advertising. Anyone who is worried about censorship.
fading_person@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
Me, who uses low end hardware and can’t spend several gigabytes for simple web apps that I can run locally for 10% of the hardware resources of the web equivalent.
sommerset@thelemmy.club 3 hours ago
But Linux versions don’t exist on most cases. I was making a point that a web version accessible to Linux user is better than nothing at all.
DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 4 hours ago
I would say that most people who own a computer use local apps, and that the experience, and long-term costs, of using a local program is often better than doing something completely cloud-based.
They use data from webtraffic to make their charts, so talking about local apps doesn’t really have much to do with this website.
dil@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
Video editors, photo editors, 3d modelers , animators, gamedevs, etc.
passepartout@feddit.org 1 day ago
inb4 Linux users sweepingly get declared as criminals for some flimsy reason. There was some news of Facebook filtering out Linux content because it seemed harmful to them.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You wouldn’t download an operating system, would you?
ook@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
a_person@lemmy.world 1 day ago
All my operating systems are hand written in assembly
passepartout@feddit.org 1 day ago
Of course not! I will only get organic / grass fed computers with a OS preinstalled by the vendor. They only do this to protect the users and not for the fuckton of money MS shoves into their throats.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
Reminds me of the thing in Spain where they just immediately suspect anyone of drug trafficking for using pixel devices because thats what grapheneos runs on.
te_abstract_art@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
I’m not in the US, but here in the UK I made the switch too.
I went from Windows PC + Windows laptop ~2 years ago to now having a Linux PC (ZorinOS), Samsung tablet and a home server running Proxmox with an Ubuntu VM for Docker.
Never been happier with my setup. The grass truly is greener over here.
Sarothazrom@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Just switched last month and I love it so far (:
mortalblade@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 hours ago
Just made the full switch meself this past week!
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
I couldn’t find it is in the article, is this new purchases, or how is this measured. If a computer ships with windows and I install mint on it, how do they know where that tally goes?
DandomRude@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Still far too low, considering that the US is now a police state.
centipede_powder@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
It would probably be more if there weren’t so many Linux gatekeepers that tell people to “go back to Windows/Apple” when they ask a questions.
redwattlebird@lemmings.world 14 hours ago
I’m just waiting for double digits so that the FiveM devs can’t ignore Linux gamers anymore and actually allow for GTAV online playability. I mean, you can run a server on Linux but can’t play? Dumb.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 20 hours ago
Finally, the year of Desktop Linux. Twenty years after we were promised. And it’s still a pittence, but I’ll take it.
I’m on a Mac, only use Linux for server stuff, but the more people we can get off Windows, the better. Let’s go!
Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Hopefully this surge in users make people want to develop for it a lot more and break more walls for others who are interested.
goatinspace@feddit.org 1 day ago
(~‾⌣‾)~
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Woooo! Year of the linux desktop baby!!
- pumps fist in air*
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 11 hours ago
I switched to mint like a month before PewDiePie lol
My main issue is that I kinda need actual Excel every so often because I require things like power query. I tried installing it using Wine, but it needs to authenticate with Microsofts servers, even the older versions.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 day ago
At some point companies will be forced to accept that they’re losing out on revenue by not releasingg a linux version of their software.
shapptastic@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
I mean good for the desktop experience on Linux, its taken the movement of most desktop apps to the web to make OS choice basically immaterial. I’ll still nitpick some things in linux that are still worse than Windows (i’ve replaced my htpc with a cheapo N100 and its better in most ways, worse in a few smaller things), but the most important thing is that the things I mostly use a desktop for (namely media consumption, browsing, some game streaming, and docker containers) its more or less the same as using windows or macos.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
itisileclerk@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I still use windows because of Visual Studio. I used to use Mac OSX because of XCode and I honestly don’t understand people today who still use Windows or Mac for anything other than Development.
If there was an alternative to Visual Studio for Linux I wouldn’t think twice.
dukatos@lemmy.zip 20 hours ago
Thanks, Gaben.
TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Just switched to Linux for my daily driver laptop!
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 hours ago
nexguy@lemmy.world 39 minutes ago
I think the fastest way for Linux to spread is for there to be a cheap gross dirty disgusting commercial version pushed at bestbuy/walmart…etc where people can become familiar enough with it to switch to other distros and out still feel familiar.
bloooooort@sh.itjust.works 6 minutes ago
Im a long time Mac user but recently got a steamdeck. Desktop mode uses a version of kde and I really like it, if I had to switch from Mac I would definitely go with linux instead of windows. I think the steam deck will introduce a lot of people to linux.
compcube@lemy.lol 26 minutes ago
Do you think ChromeOS could fit that role? At least it shows that an alternative to Windows exists.