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Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share In USA
Submitted 8 months ago by herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.world
https://ostechnix.com/linux-reaches-5-desktop-market-share-in-usa/
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Psythik@lemmy.world 8 months ago
xeekei@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
I’ve been using Linux since 2006, and been gaming on it exclusively since maybe 2018? Seen reports it’s even kicking Win 11’s ass now performance-wise. Yall are just mean.
Fedditor385@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If it was simple and easy to install and play games on Linux as is on Windows, I would have switched over a decade ago.
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
It has been very easy with Steam and GoG for a few yeara now. DXVK kicks ass.
ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
I installed Bazzite last month, installed my games on Steam and I just played all my games. Cyberpunk, RDR2, Cities Skylines, Divinity Original Sin 2, no additional setup involved, no turning off the wi-fi just to create a local account. I was ready to reinstall Windows if it got too difficult. I got rid of Mint too. I thought I’d need it as people say it’s easier.
DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
The biggest weakness is multiplayer games with aggressive anti-cheat. So those are the types of games you play, continue to stay away from Linux.
But for most games on Linux, it is just install and play now through a platform like Steam. I haven’t run into a game that I want to play that doesn’t basically “just work”.
ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Pretty much this. If you have bought games from GOG or Epic, you can use Heroic Launcher to install and play them.
There has been some talking that Microsoft might remove third-party applications, like anti-cheats, away from the kernel. If that happens some day, it would probably help Linux gamers with some of those multiplayer games. But, there are already many multiplayer games that work just fine on Linux.
wampus@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Yup. Lack of game support is a big roadblock – having just one or two friends on linux makes finding games your group can play together a real headache.
Another weird-ish hiccup, is the lack of good/cheap/trustworthy tax software. Installing windows once a year to do taxes is bonkers. Some solve it by having a VM that runs windows that they only use for taxes, but that isn’t really a fix. You’d still be a microbitch.
jnod4@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I have Linux on my “gaming” pc and I just stopped gaming, I have like four hours of uninterrupted leisure a month and they’re spent in terminals trying to troubleshoot games
drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
You’re not doing it right, friend.
Sar@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The journey of Linux has been one of slow but steady progress, accelerating in recent years. It took eight years to go from 1% to 2% (by April 2021), then just 2.2 years to reach 3% (June 2023), and a mere 0.7 years to hit 4% (February 2024). Now, here we are, at over 5% in the USA! This exponential growth suggests that we’re on a promising upward trend.
The article was written this month, so it’s conveniently ignoring the fact that the rise from 4% to 5% took 18 months. That’s actually a huge slowdown in uptake, not an acceleration.
But I’m glad it’s at 5%, even if it’s only in the US. Now let’s get there globally, and keep it going…
Bluewing@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Thanks to Trump, there appears to be some initiatives in Europe for governments to switch to open source. It seems they want to try and get out of relying on US companies for their technology. That would make a large jump in the user base.
They have tried before, and not had the best luck in dropping US vendors. Things seem to run out of steam at some point and they switch back. It will be interesting to see if things stick more this time.
I’m pulling for them to succeed.
BackYardIncendiary@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
[deleted]funkyfarmington@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Admit it already, we know you run Arch.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Arch is mainstream now, gotta go with something like NixOS of you wanna be cool and still use Linux.
RedPandaRaider@feddit.org 8 months ago
I will mainly switch to Linux whenever I feel ready for the headache of setting it up for the first time. Already got another M.2 SSD to run it alongside my existing Win 10 for anything that doesn’t run on Linux.
brennesel@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
It’s so much easier than I had anticipated. Funnily enough, the most complicated thing was organizing a 16Gb USB stick to boot because I only had 20 year old ones with 4Gb. On a newly purchased bare AMD PC, I was able to set everything up after work and play games with my buddies the same evening.
I opted for Bazzite and everything ran right out of the box without any additional hardware drivers: gaming mouse, wifi, wireless PS4 controller, printer, NAS, Android phone. The game libraries from Steam, Epic, gog etc. can all be easily connected via Lutris and so far all the games I’ve tried have run. For programs that are only offered for other distributions, I have installed BoxBuddy, where you can create Distroboxes. For most Windows native programs Wine just works.
RedPandaRaider@feddit.org 8 months ago
In theory it’s always easy, but in reality there will always be some major issue. I’ve tried switching to Ubuntu twice many years ago and there was always something that didn’t work. One time it even bricked my Windows install.
Currently before actually installing it, I’ve installed Pop OS in a virtual machine. I wish I had the screenshot, but entering 4 different commands to try and install VLC player and getting an error that the command is unknown each time is degrading. A lot of the first results for installing software on Linux has commands or repositories that don’t work and you have to keep looking. It was the command on the official VLC website that didn’t work for me…
MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
It really depends on your hardware. I have a Dell XPS with an 11th gen Intel i5 that I’m running Fedora (Gnome desktop environment) on and it was rock solid from minute one. Things to check:
- Make sure your network card is supported. Intel network cards are some of the better choices for open source compatibility. On most laptops this can be swapped out if necessary.
- Camera
- Touchpad
- Fingerprint sensor
- Sound driver
- Any niche functions or modules. Think things like a secondary display on the keyboard, speciality ports etc.
Support is much better now than in the past and remember you don’t need everything to work to have a good time. My fingerprint sensor doesn’t work but it didn’t work well under windows so no big loss for me.
- You can always use a live bootable USB drive to test your hardware without having to commit to anything. This will tell you a lot about the experience you might have after installation. Heck, if you’re board you can try this right now and it won’t touch your current hard drive or operating system.
markpaskal@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I put Ubuntu on my year old Windows laptop and to my surprise, everything is just better. I mean better than Windows AND better than Linux ever was before when I used it previously. I wouldn’t be surprised if we start seeing some major manufacturers shipping PCs with Ubuntu pre-loaded in the coming years.
kmacmartin@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I bought a Dell with Ubuntu preloaded in 2019. I think it should still be possible (It’s their “developer edition” models).
rumba@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
better than Linux ever was before
I did Linux on the desktop for 15 years. I was primarily Windows at home, Linux at work. With a job change, I took a detour through Mac for a couple of years, then WSL hit, and I ran Windows for quite a while.
I dropped back in, but only at home when Bookworm landed. I was playing Steam games with video acceleration right out of the gate. For a lot of people, it’s just going to work right out of the gate, and updates are just going to work. Now that a lot of shit’s going Electron, a lot of apps that had an edge in windows are now identical through their web interfaces.
If you’re not playing games with a lot of anti-cheat, using proprietary hardware or don’t need access to some windows-only apps (or you can put up with Wine), all the distros are up to the point where they operate just as you’d expect them to.
enthusiasm_headquarters@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It doesn’t say how they got this number in the piece (unless I missed it), but it’s likely more than 5% if they are, say, counting the OS by user agent strings hitting a particular tracker. Linux distros use different browsers and they don’t report the OS in an accurate way all the time.
For a long time my UAS just said “Firefox, the version #, NT-based” or something like that, but now it reports Linux properly… I haven’t been paranoid enough to use a agent switcher lately.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Iine go up diamond hands
Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
I’m doing my part! Switched to Linux earlier this year because Microsoft started showing ads in the start menu. I tried Nobara but ran into some glitches that I didn’t want to troubleshoot so I switched to Bazzite. So far so good.
brennesel@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
I did the same this month. My hardware wasn’t supported by Win11, so I installed Bazzite. It works so smoothly that I’ve already installed it on another PC and will do so on every PC in my household. I’ve been able to run every single game so far, whether they were from Steam, Ubisoft Connect, GOG, Battle.net or the EA app. I had no idea we were at this point already.
Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Right on! I’ve had a similar gaming experience, except with VR. Can’t seem to get my headset working with Bazzite. I’ve heard that there’s some workarounds but I need to sit down and poke at it.
enthusiasm_headquarters@lemmy.world 8 months ago
congratulations, you now walk with the righteous.
Unlocking_Freedom@lemmy.world 8 months ago
sparky linux LXQt was the one i settled to in the end. Despite having a top spec laptop and desktop PC, i wanted a light weight Linux, based on Debian, with no “fluff” at all. PC boots fast, shuts down in 2 seconds, no updates, secure, every program is instant. Windoze is plain stupid now with ads.
Jyek@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
They’ve been showing ads in the start menu for years now. Since windows 8 honestly.
Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
I hadn’t seen a single ad until a few months ago. I had snagged a copy of Windows 10 Pro (and Windows 7 Pro before that) from my workplace so I imagine it was debloated to an extent.
jsomae@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
As pointed out on hackernews, this is likely attributed to (a) decrease in desktop usage by non-linux-users, and (b) the gaming industry embracing linux
Auth@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That HN thread was such a shitshow lol. Also I dont think there is anything credible to suggest this increase from 4.6% to 5% is due to ‘non linux users’ or steamdeck. Steamdeck has contributed sure but desktop linux is growing but every single metric (steam hardware survey, PH Desktop user survey, US Gov traffic, tech youtuber trends, etc).
useless antidote: My friend who is a non techie gamer and she plays a lot of anti cheat type multiplayer games ASKED me to help her switch to linux mint and even when I said thats a bad idea she shouldnt switch she still wanted to. She ended up loving it even though there was a few pain points (fucken nvidia dual screen config on x11) and i think a few of her other friends have even switched after hearing her say it works well.
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’d honestly be curious to see what percentage of Linux is steam decks now
ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
This doesn’t give a complete answer, but according to Steam’s Hardware and Software Survey, 31% of Steam’s Linux users are using “SteamOS Holo”. It’s the name of SteamOS 3, used by Steam Decks. 2.57% of Steam users are using some Linux distro.
nexguy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I think the fastest way for Linux to spread is for there to be a cheap gross dirty disgusting commercial version pushed at bestbuy/walmart…etc where people can become familiar enough with it to switch to other distros and out still feel familiar.
Bluewing@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I remember when Walmart sold boxed releases of RedHat and Mandrake. My first installs were fueled by $20 boxed releases at Walmart. I was so bummed when they stopped. But I could send away for Ubuntu releases on a CD for free.
enthusiasm_headquarters@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I think the fastest way for linux to spread are a) a state-sponsored (totally open source) product that sees a free and open OS as part of a commitment to a free and open society. or 2) one of these fuckhead billionaires drops $200M or so into a trust, rather like the Poetry Foundation, which has the singular commitment to create an OS for people and to support it indefinitely.
I don’t think the answer to any of society’s ills is to get Wallmart involved.
bloooooort@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Im a long time Mac user but recently got a steamdeck. Desktop mode uses a version of kde and I really like it, if I had to switch from Mac I would definitely go with linux instead of windows. I think the steam deck will introduce a lot of people to linux.
compcube@lemy.lol 8 months ago
Do you think ChromeOS could fit that role? At least it shows that an alternative to Windows exists.
ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Google will merge Android and ChromeOS.
kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
I hopped on the Linux train when Microsoft began pushing hard for AI integration and Microsoft accounts. I fucking hate AI and I don’t need some corpo cunt looking over my shoulder and taking notes while I use my computer.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Same. It should be illegal for them to be forcing this shit on us. At least I only have to endure it on my work pc. No windows on personal devices
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Welcome! Because we Linux aficionados are incorrigibly nosy and passionate, which distro did you pick and how are you liking it so far?
kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
I went with Mint because my technical knowledge of Linux is very basic at the moment. I imagine I’ll jump to a more hands-on distro as my familiarity with it increases. EndeavorOS looks interesting.
sommerset@thelemmy.club 8 months ago
Everything is online.
Who even needs to run local apps anymore?lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Anyone who wants to own what they create and doesn’t want their work stolen for some startup’s plagiarism engine. Anyone who is interested in privacy. Anyone who wants a consistent user experience. Anyone who wants to be exempt from sinister targeted advertising. Anyone who is worried about censorship.
fading_person@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Me, who uses low end hardware and can’t spend several gigabytes for simple web apps that I can run locally for 10% of the hardware resources of the web equivalent.
sommerset@thelemmy.club 8 months ago
But Linux versions don’t exist on most cases. I was making a point that a web version accessible to Linux user is better than nothing at all.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 months ago
I seriously don’t want everything to be a god damn webpage.
Zink@programming.dev 8 months ago
The funny thing for me is that my job is like 80% webpages in LibreWolf on my Linux machine. But that’s because the company uses M365 and Github.
I use various different programs for different reasons just like anybody, but I bet browser + vscode + terminal covers 95% of my work day.
sommerset@thelemmy.club 8 months ago
It’s better than an app without Linux version comrade
dil@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Video editors, photo editors, 3d modelers , animators, gamedevs, etc.
DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I would say that most people who own a computer use local apps, and that the experience, and long-term costs, of using a local program is often better than doing something completely cloud-based.
They use data from webtraffic to make their charts, so talking about local apps doesn’t really have much to do with this website.
tehn00bi@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I made the switch recently for probably the strangest reason.
I’ve been running win 11 for over a year using a shell tool that allowed me to move my task bar to the top of the screen and some other win 10 functionality.
However win 11 removed the ability to move the task bar and my shell program lost most of its functionality. After that I was done.
I’ve Linux off and on since 2002ish so it’s not scary to me and I’m pretty happy with Arch and KDE right now. Still the occasional crash that appears to happen sometimes when watching YouTube.
walderan@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Hey, don’t knock on customization as a reason. A couple of decades ago, I was sold on Linux by silly Beryl/Compiz videos such as this one:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=038RHEGu4OYenthusiasm_headquarters@lemmy.world 8 months ago
yo compiz is the shit. You can do ANYTHING with it. It took me a while to figure out because where the hell is the manual, but I have my own custom thing going on and it’s brilliant.
whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
If anyone is stuck on windows and not able to switch there’s a program called wind hawk that will let you download customizations in windows 11 including moving the bar
enthusiasm_headquarters@lemmy.world 8 months ago
it’s sad, pathetic, and stupid that one has to download a potentially dangerous hack to do something so basic.
tehn00bi@lemmy.world 8 months ago
From my reading all ways to move the task bar have been removed.
dil@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
idk how you stayed on windows so long, had I tried linux sooner I wouldve dumped it faster, no software support or piracy for said software if it does have support is rough tho like houdinifx is hard to pirate if not impossible, davinci is easy tho, adobe has no support (no idea if it works well with wine pirated)
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I couldn’t find it is in the article, is this new purchases, or how is this measured. If a computer ships with windows and I install mint on it, how do they know where that tally goes?
JimmyKerr@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I use arch btw
itisileclerk@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I still use windows because of Visual Studio. I used to use Mac OSX because of XCode and I honestly don’t understand people today who still use Windows or Mac for anything other than Development.
If there was an alternative to Visual Studio for Linux I wouldn’t think twice.
te_abstract_art@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’m not in the US, but here in the UK I made the switch too.
I went from Windows PC + Windows laptop ~2 years ago to now having a Linux PC (ZorinOS), Samsung tablet and a home server running Proxmox with an Ubuntu VM for Docker.
Never been happier with my setup. The grass truly is greener over here.
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 8 months ago
I switched to mint like a month before PewDiePie lol
My main issue is that I kinda need actual Excel every so often because I require things like power query. I tried installing it using Wine, but it needs to authenticate with Microsofts servers, even the older versions.
jabjoe@feddit.uk 8 months ago
Wow, that’s excluding Chrome OS, which has 2.71% on it’s own. So you could say Linux is at over 7%, but glad they split it so we know.
alexalbedo@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
I ran my first distro in 2009 and had to switch back to PC when I got to college. Finally got around to switching back over earlier this year when my computer wasn’t eligible to upgrade to windows 11. It’s wild how much easier it is to get things up and running now, my 70 year old dad could probably do it and that was not the case the first time around.
qevlarr@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Every year Linux fans:
👐 It’s happening! 👐
redwattlebird@lemmings.world 8 months ago
I’m just waiting for double digits so that the FiveM devs can’t ignore Linux gamers anymore and actually allow for GTAV online playability. I mean, you can run a server on Linux but can’t play? Dumb.
shapptastic@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I mean good for the desktop experience on Linux, its taken the movement of most desktop apps to the web to make OS choice basically immaterial. I’ll still nitpick some things in linux that are still worse than Windows (i’ve replaced my htpc with a cheapo N100 and its better in most ways, worse in a few smaller things), but the most important thing is that the things I mostly use a desktop for (namely media consumption, browsing, some game streaming, and docker containers) its more or less the same as using windows or macos.
mortalblade@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Just made the full switch meself this past week!
TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Just switched to Linux for my daily driver laptop!
k0e3@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
This is the first news about Americans doing something smart in a little while. Great job!
centipede_powder@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It would probably be more if there weren’t so many Linux gatekeepers that tell people to “go back to Windows/Apple” when they ask a questions.
url@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Current rig has dual boot Windows/fedora but even in the windows there’s a little WSL Ubuntu running sometimes so I guess I have way more Linux even though I use Windows more right now… I’m trying…