I mean good for the desktop experience on Linux, its taken the movement of most desktop apps to the web to make OS choice basically immaterial. I’ll still nitpick some things in linux that are still worse than Windows (i’ve replaced my htpc with a cheapo N100 and its better in most ways, worse in a few smaller things), but the most important thing is that the things I mostly use a desktop for (namely media consumption, browsing, some game streaming, and docker containers) its more or less the same as using windows or macos.
Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share In USA
Submitted 1 day ago by herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.world
https://ostechnix.com/linux-reaches-5-desktop-market-share-in-usa/
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shapptastic@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
dukatos@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Thanks, Gaben.
TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Just switched to Linux for my daily driver laptop!
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
itisileclerk@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
I still use windows because of Visual Studio. I used to use Mac OSX because of XCode and I honestly don’t understand people today who still use Windows or Mac for anything other than Development.
If there was an alternative to Visual Studio for Linux I wouldn’t think twice.
domi@lemmy.secnd.me 7 hours ago
If it’s for C#, I’m doing pretty well with VSCode/VSCodium on Linux.
WPF and Forms does not work but I also have a Rider license from work which I use occasionally to maintain one of our old WPF applications, which we converted to Avalonia XPF. It works great and we now also have a Mac and Linux version.
eodur@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Without knowing what you are working on in Visual Studio, I would suggest checking out Jetbrains IDEs. I’ve used Rider for .NET quite successfully, and most of their other IDEs. I havent spent nearly as much time with CLion, but its supposed to be good. I haven’t used VS since like 2015, so I really don’t know how they compare these days. But I also haven’t missed it.
realitista@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
People who use windows or Mac for anything but development do so for the same reasons as you, they are locked into some features. For example, at home I need a local music library manager with local sync to my phone music app and smart playlists. Mac is still the only platform with this.
At work I need MS exchange integration and all the features of native office. Even the Mac version isn’t good enough for my workflow.
My only hope would be to turn to emulators or something like that, but at that point I’m not really running Linux anyway. I’m just running something else in a container inside Linux.
Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml 11 hours ago
MPD works pretty well for the music thing, and, I don’t know if this is would be an option for you, but I programmed my own smart-paylist-generator in rust as a hobby project to get control of my 500Gb (around 10,000 100% legally acquired tracks cough, cough) library. The additional control over the algo meant I got something that works waaaay better than pretty much anything else I’ve tried (including Spotify suggestions, etc. — the only thing I still use is Bandcamp for new artist suggestions); if you have the time, I highly recommend a homemade solution like that. It is a lot of work though.
RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
The only thing I really miss about visual studio is the automatic profiler. Everything else just felt archaic, bloated, slow, and unintuitive. Adding one line in cmake often does the same thing as clicking through five submenus which never once got updated since 2012.
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 13 hours ago
Visual Studio is a relic of the past. Does anyone still use it?
nailbar@sopuli.xyz 13 hours ago
This question is a comment to its answer 🤔
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 11 hours ago
In short, you want a .Net developement platform for Linux? And i assume something like VScode is not enough? The thing with .exe compilers in Linux ususally using Mingw/Msys2 because MS having their own proprietary compiler thing?
k0e3@lemmy.ca 23 hours ago
This is the first news about Americans doing something smart in a little while. Great job!
spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 17 hours ago
The majority of Americans are educated, but they all happen to live in the same 5 or so cities
Crabhands@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
I’m on EndeavorOS for 2 months, and I just installed Bazzite on my kids desktop! As long as Sober keeps working for Roblox, we are golden.
Teknikal@eviltoast.org 1 day ago
Should be 105 percent the way Microsoft treats it’s users.
simplejack@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Why are is that stat counter splitting Macs into OS X and macOS
It’s the same OS.
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
It’s worth noting that some data reporting issues mean OS X and macOS are sometimes split, even though macOS is the newer branding for OS X. When combined, Apple’s desktop presence is around 24%
olympicyes@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m a Mac user and everyone in my family is too (I use a Linux desktop for work), but I have a hard time believing MacOS has a 25% market share.
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 21 hours ago
Especially because the lion’s share of computers are corporate/business machines.
alexalbedo@lemmy.zip 16 hours ago
I ran my first distro in 2009 and had to switch back to PC when I got to college. Finally got around to switching back over earlier this year when my computer wasn’t eligible to upgrade to windows 11. It’s wild how much easier it is to get things up and running now, my 70 year old dad could probably do it and that was not the case the first time around.
Zink@programming.dev 6 hours ago
I made the full work + home switch last year. I don’t know which experience is more improved over Windows: Installing the OS or Updating the OS.
wjrii@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Great, but that graph is not showing any prticular spike, just a nice and gentle upward trend in share. The article also overlooks that there is a certain element of Windows and MacOS computers being replaced by tablets and phones, while Linux is already an enthusiast choice on the desktop, meaning it will be insulated somewhat.
On the plus side, Steam and Proton and maturing DEs/distros and enshittification of Windows certainly make Linux a much more viable “normie” option than it’s ever been. We’re a far cry from the CD-ROM of Red Hat that came with my “Intro to Linux” book in 1999 but couldn’t use my Winmodem or printer and really preferred to run XWindows in grayscale.
fading_person@lemmy.zip 15 hours ago
You can check the graph for all OSes from all devices combined in statcounter, and linux is also showing a growth, so it’s a real increase in usage.
voodooattack@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Knoppix or bust
wjrii@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
I preferred Mepis. 😊
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 day ago
If it’s anything like browsers that’s about the level were a platform is hard to ignore.
kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Just recently converted myself! It’s soooo much better than it used to be. I used Ubuntu as a daily driver several years ago, but I absolutely had to dual boot windows because getting any games running was a massive pain in the ass. Now I just slap a proton build on it and go on my merry way!
I’ve only had issues with some software that needs to attach itself to steam games, such as Archipelago, but I’ve been able to figure them all out so far!
LucidNightmare@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 hours ago
I started running openSUSE Tumbleweed full time at the beginning of this year!
I truly must thank the folks at Steam/Proton, GE-Proton, and wemod-launcher on GitHub for allowing me to play my games exactly like I did on Windows. I can’t stress to anyone who isn’t playing on Linux just how good it really is (for me, at least)!
I have beaten at least 10 games while on Linux. Games like: Metaphor: Refantazio, Persona 3 Reloaded, DOOM: The Dark Ages, Wolfenstein: The Old Blood, Wolfenstein: The New Order, Mass Effect Legendary Edition (all three games), Oblivion Remastered, and recently System Shock (Remake). Just to name a few off the top of my head!
I still have a Windows SSD dedicated to anything I MUST use on there (mainly modding games, logging back into openSUSE, then pulling those files straight from the Windows SSD onto my openSUSE SSD, fucking love that!), but that is mostly being unused because I found the wonders of QEMU/KVM Virtual Machine Manager. I use the VM to sideload apps onto my iPhone, for save editing, or for testing a Windows only app before trying to run it with Bottles or something else.
Logging into Linux feels like home, while logging onto Windows feels like someone else’s home. :P
Dani551@discuss.tchncs.de 19 hours ago
Never expected to see a shoutout for my project on here. Thanks, glad it has helped you.
LucidNightmare@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 hours ago
Hey, Dani! I don’t have a lot of time to play games like I used to, so you and the others who have worked on wemod-launcher are a LIFE SAVER! I can’t tell you how cool it is to see the developer here, and actually saw my comment.
Every time I get done playing a game, and WeMod asks the “How was it?” prompt, I also always shout the project out through that, just in case someone sees it and they want to help or make the switch over to Linux. :)
AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Which is your project?
As an aside, your comment has hit me in a surprisingly profound way. I think it’s because it can be too easy to forget about the people behind the software we use. This is especially the case with proprietary software from big companies, but it can also happen with open source or smaller projects from individual devs. I think that it arises in part from thinking about software as a product, which neglects the messy relationality of how things are actually made, maintained and used.
It’s sweet to see such a serendipitous exchange of appreciation. It makes the world feel smaller, but in a good way.
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 19 hours ago
How do you side load apps onto iPhone?
LucidNightmare@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 hours ago
I use a program called Sideloadly!
Obviously, just be careful on what you install, as with anything else! :-]
AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
I share your enthusiasm. I wanted to learn Linux because so much scientific computing in my field relies on it, but when I dual booted, it was too easy to just retreat to Windows as the path of least resistance. I decided to fully make the switch to Linux as an attempt to force myself to learn stuff, but the big thing that held me back was nervousness about gaming.
Turns out that this fear was completely unfounded, and I have been utterly astounded at how easy gaming on Linux was. It wasn’t completely pain free, and there were a couple times that I needed to tinker somewhat, but it was no more difficult or frequent than I needed to do similar stuff on Windows.
I get what you mean about logging on feeling like home. Besides the scientific computing, a big part of what pushed me to Linux was how ambiently icked out I felt by using Windows — it didn’t feel like mine. Running Windows feels like renting a home from a landlord who doesn’t respect your boundaries and just comes in to make changes while you’re sleeping. Like, it’s not even about whether those changes are good or bad, but how weird it feels to constantly be reminded that this home is not truly yours.
LucidNightmare@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 hours ago
What field are you in, if you don’t mind a stranger asking?
I wish I could have an interesting backstory to why I wanted to switch to Linux, but mine is much more simple! I just saw how well the SteamDeck was running some of the games I was throwing on it, and was pretty impressed! So, I pulled a spare SSD out of one of my old laptops, chucked it into the desktop, and started the install for openSUSE Tumbleweed because I had heard it was “one of the most stable distros” and was sold since I have always messed my Linux installs up! (I was also dual booting on the same laptop I pulled the SSD from, so that could have been a lot of the issues I had)
Gaming is definitely more simple once you acclimate to the new OS you are using. It was like when I used a Mac for the first time, and didn’t find it very good to use, but now I can get on one and do a lot more things now that I understand the system a little better! If I need to look something up, I just always add openSUSE Tumbleweed, and generally find what I need.
I used some tools (ChrisTitusTech, and StartAllBack mainly) to make Windows bearable, but never liked not having the control over MY system. It is definitely weird when I am on Windows. I usually check to see if that nasty Recall system somehow installed itself on there, or something similar. Heebie jeebies!
dastanktal@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Wow. Thats amazing.
lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 1 day ago
REVOLUTION
the_q@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Linux is freedom. It’s imperfect, fun and yours. It teaches you while helping you do your computing, creative and fun tasks. If you’re even the least but curious I encourage you to try it out.
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
OS reveal perty and it’s a penguin.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
That still seems high to me but actually checking the StatCounter website… it has more or less been steady at 5-ish% for three years?
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Year of the Linux desktop
commander@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Pretty certain the rate of increase will accelerate over years. Even moreso outside of the USA. Good news for getting more attention to other open source software not just the kernel and core OS utils.
shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Ubuntu 10.10 was my first linux. Though 11.04 was released soon after my switch.
My first experience with 10.10 was as a virtual machine on my school issued Dell Latitude D505 laptop with Windows XP, a dual core 32-bit processor and 512 megs of RAM. And boy, let me tell you, it ran like shit. But I knew that it was because I was virtualizing it and didn’t hold that against it.
I can’t remember what it was called, but I eventually installed this OS on my flash drive that was meant to be eco-friendly for old devices. It had a very green wallpaper. And just used that instead of ever booting into windows by changing the boot order and leaving the flash drive plugged in at all times.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m helping!
Just put Mint on my 2-in-1! So far so good, except my volume buttons don’t work, and I have to manually toggle the on screen keyboard for text entry if I detactch the keyboard cover.
voodooattack@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Don’t use the stock kernel. Use the HWE one if you want newer hardware to work on Ubuntu and its derivatives like Mint.
Or try a Fedora live-usb and see if it works with the newer kernels.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
My newer hardware is circa 2015.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I’ve actually been using Bazzite-gnome-nvidia image on my main desktop for the past few weeks and I have to say it’s very slick.
My main issue with it is with scaling disabled everything seems slightly big or spaced out in comparison to when I ran windows? I’ve read up and it maybe has something to do with the default fractional scaling but I checked and I’m at 100%.
Other than that I’m very happy with it!
voodooattack@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Last time I used fractional scaling with GNOME it was a mess. Not sure of its state nowadays
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 1 day ago
If I could just go one day on Lemmy without hearing about Linux… nothing has turned me off Linux more than you guys not shutting up about it.
kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
You were never interested in the first place and are just looking for a way to appear above the discourse. Tool.
Jinarched@lemmy.ca 23 hours ago
dajoho@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
If you migrate to it, I promise we’ll shut up.
mrodri89@lemmy.zip 23 hours ago
Liar! Lol
Auth@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It has no marketing budget so the only way the userbase can grow is by proselytizing.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 day ago
You might be happier elsewhere.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
The online equivalent to “go back to your country”
MagicShel@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Feel free to stay on Windows or MacOS or whatever floats your boat. Won’t bother anyone.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The downvotes say otherwise. Linux bros are toxic, and can’t handle anyone who isn’t one of them
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 21 hours ago
You’re in Technology@lemmy.world and we’re talking about… technology. Seems fitting.
KiwiTB@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I doubt this is the case. Number is likely biased by SteanDecks and AI crawlers/Agents. It would be nice however.
Mouette@jlai.lu 23 hours ago
AI crawler and other bots do not advertise as Linux if you want to look like normal traffic you advertise as windows or apple user
Sonicdemon86@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I will fully switch when installing mods are just as easy as windows. So far I haven’t found mod managers that work only for one or two games. I have switched mostly to pop os using plasma.
anachrohack@piefed.world 1 day ago
The only things keeping my on Windows rn is Visual Studio and DirectX 11. Linux doesn't have C++ IDEs or a Graphics API that even comes close to these two
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 15 hours ago
I switched to mint like a month before PewDiePie lol
My main issue is that I kinda need actual Excel every so often because I require things like power query. I tried installing it using Wine, but it needs to authenticate with Microsofts servers, even the older versions.
Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 14 hours ago
You can spin up a virtual machine running Tiny10 and install office on that. Should work fine.
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I switched over to EndeavourOS around the same time. I relegated my old windows install to a virtual image, which I boot into for specific games and Excel. 10/10 recommend.
eugenia@lemmy.ml 14 hours ago
Have you tried OnlyOffice? It has better compatibility with MS formats than LibreOffice.
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 14 hours ago
OnlyOffice is worse (and not because of the security breach implications), but because it misses the Ctrl+D shortcut (copies the cell above to the current cell). Which is something I use A LOT for data entry.